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Should the government inspect private homes to ensure safety for children?

Should the government inspect private homes for safety for children?

  • This is a wonderful idea, I'm totally for it!

    Votes: 3 6.1%

  • It should only be done for at risk families.

    Votes: 6 12.2%

  • I'm not sure about this.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I don't like the sound of it.

    Votes: 11 22.4%

  • Another example of the nanny state gone wild! Where will it end?

    Votes: 25 51.0%

  • Other, please explain.

    Votes: 4 8.2%
  • Total voters
    49
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They're starting a program in England to improve home safety for children, and prevent accidents.

Health and safety snoops to enter family homes - Times Online

Health and safety inspectors are to be given unprecedented access to family homes to ensure that parents are protecting their children from household accidents.

New guidance drawn up at the request of the Department of Health urges councils and other public sector bodies to “collect data” on properties where children are thought to be at “greatest risk of unintentional injury”.

Council staff will then be tasked with overseeing the installation of safety devices in homes, including smoke alarms, stair gates, hot water temperature restrictors, oven guards and window and door locks.
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What's your opinion, is this a good idea?
 
Why do we even need parents anymore? The government just wants to do it all.
 
phattonez said:
Why do we even need parents anymore? The government just wants to do it all.
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maybe the children would be better off without some parents. i could think of a lot of people that should not have children but by an act of nature do. it is a shame for those children really.

should the country inspect homes? no, that would be a violation of the sanctity of ones home rights.
 
katiegrrl0 said:
maybe the children would be better off without some parents. i could think of a lot of people that should not have children but by an act of nature do. it is a shame for those children really.

should the country inspect homes? no, that would be a violation of the sanctity of ones home rights.
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And yet we incentivize the fornication between these people who are not prepared to be parents with welfare, public education, food stamps, etc.
 
Noooooooo, this is an invasion of privacy.
 
Unless there has been some kind of complaint to the government that the children are not being properly cared for, the government should not be doing these inspections.
 
They all ready do....
One call to CPS/DSHS or whatever your state's acronym is for child services & you will get a proctological exam for free.....;)
Whether you like it or not....:shock:
 
MyOwnDrum said:
They're starting a program in England to improve home safety for children, and prevent accidents.

Health and safety snoops to enter family homes - Times Online



What's your opinion, is this a good idea?
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Fire arms registrations and the firearms confiscations, then cameras on streets to monitor you, you can't say anything negative about any minority group or face fines and or jail time, people snooping through your garbage to see if you are recycling, and now authorities coming into your home to see if it is" safe for children". I guess that when you are a subject instead of a citizen these kinds of thing is to be expected.
 
It never fails to amuse at how some will rush to judgement on a misdirection of the facts. This storm in a teacup is based on a recommended discussion point from a committee of health clinicians regarding improving the proactive care offered by other clinicians whilst making home visits. A high proportion of accidents happen in the home, and a high number of those accidents happen to children. To turn the raising of awareness of visiting healthcare providers to a health education opportunity, or even the provision of safety equipment, into the kidnapping of children, would be risible were it not a sad reflection of the partisan lunacy of present-day politics.
 
Manc Skipper said:
It never fails to amuse at how some will rush to judgement on a misdirection of the facts. This storm in a teacup is based on a recommended discussion point from a committee of health clinicians regarding improving the proactive care offered by other clinicians whilst making home visits. A high proportion of accidents happen in the home, and a high number of those accidents happen to children. To turn the raising of awareness of visiting healthcare providers to a health education opportunity, or even the provision of safety equipment, into the kidnapping of children, would be risible were it not a sad reflection of the partisan lunacy of present-day politics.
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I'm glad you're so amused... :rolleyes:
 
Manc Skipper said:
It never fails to amuse at how some will rush to judgement on a misdirection of the facts. This storm in a teacup is based on a recommended discussion point from a committee of health clinicians regarding improving the proactive care offered by other clinicians whilst making home visits. A high proportion of accidents happen in the home, and a high number of those accidents happen to children. To turn the raising of awareness of visiting healthcare providers to a health education opportunity, or even the provision of safety equipment, into the kidnapping of children, would be risible were it not a sad reflection of the partisan lunacy of present-day politics.
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Considering how the UK is going off the deep end, one has to wonder. Government officials, government employees or who ever else being allowed to enter a home without a warrant or uncoerced permission of the resident is never a good thing.
 
phattonez said:
And yet we incentivize the fornication between these people who are not prepared to be parents with welfare, public education, food stamps, etc.
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we also allow religious people to have children. that is more of a problem than the ones you mention. in my eyes. that is legalized brain washing. do you think that should be allowed to continue? do you think that is fair to a child to be brought up with tainted truths?
 
I voted other. Reason being is that none of the other options was strong enough for me. My answer would be, will always be till the day I die or they kill me...

H E Double Hockey Sticks NO!!!!!!!!!
 
phattonez said:
And yet we incentivize the fornication between these people who are not prepared to be parents with welfare, public education, food stamps, etc.
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Yeah.... That is probably what caused two impoverished people to have unprotected sex. Right before his "grand goodbye", the girl looks at him and says, "are you ready to get food stamps, welfare and medicaid?" He replies, "i was gonna pull out but you had me convinced at food stamps."

After their done, she says, "psyche, you don't get anything, and you have to move out ASAP."
 
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jamesrage said:
Considering how the UK is going off the deep end, one has to wonder. Government officials, government employees or who ever else being allowed to enter a home without a warrant or uncoerced permission of the resident is never a good thing.
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I realise it might be a difficult concept, but in the UK, doctors and nurses provide home visits, (no extra charge) and those are the "government employees" under discussion. In point of fact, they're not government at all. The nurses are generally employed by the doctors, and the doctors are independent contractors, self-employed.
 
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Manc Skipper said:
I realise it might be a difficult concept, but in the UK, doctors and nurses provide home visits, (no extra charge) and those are the "government employees" under discussion. In point of fact, they're not government at all. The nurses are generally employed by the doctors, and the doctors are independent contractors, self-employed.
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Can you say no without any consequences if they show up to do a safety inspection?
 
Manc Skipper said:
It never fails to amuse at how some will rush to judgement on a misdirection of the facts. This storm in a teacup is based on a recommended discussion point from a committee of health clinicians regarding improving the proactive care offered by other clinicians whilst making home visits. A high proportion of accidents happen in the home, and a high number of those accidents happen to children. To turn the raising of awareness of visiting healthcare providers to a health education opportunity, or even the provision of safety equipment, into the kidnapping of children, would be risible were it not a sad reflection of the partisan lunacy of present-day politics.
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SIN BINS FOR WORST FAMILIES

THOUSANDS of the worst families in England are to be put in “sin bins” in a bid to change their bad behaviour, Ed Balls announced yesterday.


The Children’s Secretary set out £400million plans to put 20,000 problem families under 24-hour CCTV super-vision in their own homes.

They will be monitored to ensure that children attend school, go to bed on time and eat proper meals.
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For something like this it always starts out small and always starts with the worst parts of society and eventually goes into other areas as it becomes more and more accepted.
 
jamesrage said:
Can you say no without any consequences if they show up to do a safety inspection?
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Of course. There is no "safety inspection". In the real world, when the nurse visits to check on your toddler's achieving his developmental milestones, and they notice in the course of their visit that you haven't got a stair-gate, and there are unprotected electrical sockets within reach of the kid, they will point out those risks, and might even offer to provide solutions. There's no compulsion.
 
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Who are all you people to question the government? The government knows what is best for you, your children, your finances, and your future. Trust in the government and all will be provided to you!
 
If, and only if there is an existing legal condition within the home, then I don't mind it. If a judge has ruled that the children can stay in a supposedly-previously abusive home, based on social workers ensuring the health of the children, then damn straight they can. There's no way in hell that anyone is coming to my door and demanding to wander through my home without a search warrant or a court order.
 
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