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Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?

Did the US adapt the methods, foreign policy and state power of NAZI Germany.


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I am aware of that, but the rise compared to other expenses in the federal budget, is massive.


As a percentage of the Federal budget, it has remained around, or below, 20% consistently.

And in the last decade, it reached a 50-year LOW in percentage of discretionary spending.

Shouldn't it embarrass you to be this ill-informed about your favorite topic?
 
There's certainly a degree of fascism which is starting to choke out the system. But I don't think it's something that makes us more like Nazi Germany. Fascism is the natural progression for all governments, and one reason why it is essential to constrain and control government (which the People of the US have not been doing lately). So in the end, I'd have to say that I don't see much in the way of similarities between the US and Nazi Germany which are not true of general behavior and direction of all governments.
 
Want the best example?

Look at the Waco massacre of 1993. 51 days of torture and harassment by the ATF and the FBI along with military tanks equipped with CS gas and flame throwers.

79 men, women and children in the compound perished.

Just like the Nazis rounding up village people into a barn and setting it on fire.

Why aren't Janet Reno and Bill Clinton being prosecuted for mass murder?

They were given warnings and stayed inside. :(

They/FEDS begged them to allow those kids to leave and the parents would not release the children. This says a lot about those people and what they were dealing with:3oops:
 
Want the best example?

Look at the Waco massacre of 1993. 51 days of torture and harassment by the ATF and the FBI along with military tanks equipped with CS gas and flame throwers.

79 men, women and children in the compound perished.

Just like the Nazis rounding up village people into a barn and setting it on fire.

Why aren't Janet Reno and Bill Clinton being prosecuted for mass murder?


Can you show me that the WACO freaks were rounded up and placed into the compound by the government or did they choose to be there?

Your making this easy.
 
Ludwig von Mises said:
Economics in the second German Reich, as represented by the government-appointed university professors, degenerated into an unsystematic, poorly assorted collection of various scraps of knowledge borrowed from history, geography, technology, jurisprudence, and party politics, larded with deprecatory remarks about the errors in the "abstractions" of the Classical School.

After 1866, the men who came into the academic career had only contempt for "bloodless abstractions." They published historical studies, preferably such as dealt with labor conditions of the recent past. Many of them were firmly convinced that the foremost task of economists was to aid the "people" in the war of liberation they were waging against the "exploiters."

This was the position Gustav Schmoller embraced with regard to economics. Again and again he blamed the economists for having prematurely made inferences from quantitatively insufficient material. What, in his opinion, was needed in order to substitute a realistic science of economics for the hasty generalizations of the British "armchair" economists was more statistics, more history, and more collection of "material." Out of the results of such research the economists of the future, he maintained, would one day develop new insights by "induction."

Does Gustav Schmoller remind you of anyone alive today?

James Devine said:
The original statements by the rebellious French economics students define autistic economics in terms of its one-sided and exclusionary interest in "imaginary worlds," "uncontrolled use of mathematics" and the absence of pluralism of approaches in economics. The hard-core autistic walling off from the societal environment can be seen most strongly in the specific, highly abstract, axiomatic school that the students protested against.

More recently, the Post-Autistic Economics Network has grown bold enough to demand that federally-funded economics associations censure anybody who displays “axiom-happy behavior,” as this is considered symptomatic of autism.

Real-World Economics Review said:
It is accepted fact that the economics profession through its teachings, pronouncements and policy recommendations facilitated the Global Financial Collapse (GFC). To date, however, the world’s major economics associations have declined to censure the major facilitators of the GFC or even to publicly identify them. This silence, this indifference to causing human suffering, constitutes grave moral failure. It also gives license to economists to continue to indulge in axiom-happy behaviour.

Since these associations are funded entirely by the Federal Government, this is tantamount to government censorship. Indeed, their use of the word [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censure]censure[/ame], rather than censor, implies a formal reprimand issued to an individual by an authoritative body. This is highly reminiscent of the Soviet practice of denouncing dissidents as mentally ill. If preventing autistic people from getting published becomes government policy, it is only a short step to forcibly institutionalizing anybody who has studied geometry or otherwise shown an aptitude for the axiomatic method.

If this comparison seems unimportant, recall what the German Historical School led to.

Ludwig von Mises said:
The political significance of the work of the Historical School consisted in the fact that it rendered Germany safe for the ideas, the acceptance of which made popular with the German people all those disastrous policies that resulted in the great catastrophes. The aggressive imperialism that twice ended in war and defeat, the limitless inflation of the early 1920s, the Zwangswirtschaft and all the horrors of the Nazi regime were achievements of politicians who acted as they had been taught by the champions of the Historical School.

At this early stage of the Post-Autistic Movement, the most obvious point of comparison with the Nazis is their campaign to ban academic papers.

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Just because it is not the government, in the sense of actual federal agents, who are burning books does not mean that it is any less wrong or any different than Nazi book burning. That was not done by the government either. It was the German Student Association.

Wikipedia (Nazi Book Burning) said:
The German Student Association (Deutsche Studentenschaft) proclaimed a nationwide "Action against the Un-German Spirit," to climax in a literary purge or "cleansing" ("Säuberung") by fire.

Placards publicized the theses, which attacked "Jewish intellectualism," asserted the need to "purify" German language and literature.

On May 10, 1933 the students burned upwards of 25,000 volumes of "un-German" books, presaging an era of state censorship and control of culture. On the night of May 10, in most university towns, nationalist students marched in torchlight parades "against the un-German spirit."
 
I am talking about the US, especially since year 2000. I am talking about the methods of the Republican party.

No more like the US 1941-46 and the Democrat methods (interment camps, forced conscription, war propoganda etc etc etc;)

I am talking about things like justifications for going to war, the distortion and propaganda surrounding it.

All wars are begun under false pretenses in the modern era.


I am talking about the police state, and increased right of the government.

Examples?

I am talking about propaganda and brainwashing in general, I am talking about the agenda of the political class, I am talking about foreign policy.
I am basically asking, did the US learn more FROM NAZI Germany, then BY(the bad example)..

I am talking about you needing to take some time and read up on some history, before embarrasing yourself with ignorant comparisons.
 
I am talking about you needing to take some time and read up on some history, before embarrasing yourself with ignorant comparisons.

That is the problem, the more I read up on pre NAZI ww2 Germany, and the more I watch current events unfold(with the US involved), the more the methodology seems like an improved copy.

Perhaps its time you really understand current even(t)s, and dont deny from the onset the similarity when you remember pre world war 2 Germany and get to learn more about their methods.
 
Do you see any similarity with the US now(and past) to NAZI Germany?
Opposite: Hitler rescued a nation from the banks and the media, took country out of devastation into prosperity before any wars occured (1933-1939) while US sold the country out to the banks and the media while Israel goes unpunished raping neighboring nations
 
I am talking about the US, especially since year 2000. I am talking about the methods of the Republican party.
I am talking about things like justifications for going to war, the distortion and propaganda surrounding it. I am talking about the police state, and increased right of the government. I am talking about propaganda and brainwashing in general, I am talking about the agenda of the political class, I am talking about foreign policy.
I am basically asking, did the US learn more FROM NAZI Germany, then BY(the bad example)..

homeland security, real id, patriot act, habeas corpus, replace jew with muslim.
 
Exactly....

Imagine NAZI Germany with biometrics and modern surveilance. :caution:

You just don't quit with the America BashingRhetoric... do you? :lol:
 
It's all a trap you see. The government... they've got bugs, in my computer and my sour cream. They can see me right now. It's all really a huge unholy alliance beteewn Uncle Sam, ACORN, my Satan-possesed Dog, NORAD, and the JEEEEEWWWSSS!!! They're onto me. You've gotta get them out of my head!! My continued gurella warfare of posting nonsense on Internet forums just might bring them down though.
 
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American government is going in a troubling direction that will lead to less freedom for me and others over the 21st century, and I'd like to see a decrease not increase in government. That doesn't make them Nazi Germany controlling my every move or even a dictatorship.
 
American government is going in a troubling direction that will lead to less freedom for me and others over the 21st century, and I'd like to see a decrease not increase in government. That doesn't make them Nazi Germany controlling my every move or even a dictatorship.

the US Government was more like Nazi Germany when we ended Habeas Corpus and illegally detained the Japanese Americans during WWII than in any other time, and we are nothing like that now... his insinstance that the USA is some big horrible monster is ridiculous.
 
The same percent that is in the top 10 dumbest, really.







BOOYAH :rofl


Is that your final answer? Then I BEG to differ with your "perfect" opinion. The dumb is 90% of the population at least, not because of natural ability, but because democracy makes them so. "democracy".
 
Ok, I will give you that, its not controllign your "every" move yet, but that facsist gonna be dead government is controlling you. Have a look at the fascist Iphone and how that got popular. First global fascist product. If you do not believe me look at the media and how this fascist(pience of ****, die, we will take you down NAZI **** your own sister).
 
Happy to hear your opinion on this Bodi. I am unbeliabably sad to see what is going on in the US. :(
 
No, I dont think the US is anything like Nazi Germany was. There are way too many loose, far fetched comparisons happening in political discussions.
 
Many in Germany compare the U.S. to what they went through up until Hitler's regime.

Many in Germany compare the U.S. 9/11 scheme to the Reichstag Scheme where the german government itself staged an attack on the Parliment building.....

This from sane people??
Yes, we have out wing-nuts and CTs, but they are less than 10%, thank goodness....but 10% is still too many..
 
I am talking about the US, especially since year 2000. I am talking about the methods of the Republican party.
I am talking about things like justifications for going to war, the distortion and propaganda surrounding it. I am talking about the police state, and increased right of the government. I am talking about propaganda and brainwashing in general, I am talking about the agenda of the political class, I am talking about foreign policy.
I am basically asking, did the US learn more FROM NAZI Germany, then BY(the bad example)..

No. Not even close. Besides being an Argumentum ad Nazium, it is just plain ridiculous.
 
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