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Lightdemon said:
What "unknown" are you talking about? What I've told you, in the last couple of posts, is well known among those with an educational background in psychology.



We DO use 100% of our brains. It's working all the time. Whether you are controlling it or not.

You're not understanding what I'm telling you. The brain's function is not limited to allow one to think. There is so many more things that the brain does that does not involve thinking. Most of the functions of the brain are automatic, instinctual, habitualized (or familiarized). That's why psychologists say that we only use 10% of our brains. BECAUSE we only need 10% of our brain to think, form ideas. The rest of the brain's function is not needed for thinking.

Do you now understand the misinterpretation of the saying "People only use 10% of their brains"?
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It is my fear that mankind is falling into the same realm as past times when everybody was sure the earth was flat and the earth was the center of the universe.
Today we are told that humans know precisly how the human brain works and why it works that way.

To me that would be like making a map of the last Galaxy in the universe, although nobodys been there or knows what it looks like.

"We do use 100% of are brains"?
Now I have nothing against theorys but to make such a statement as fact WELL?
 
presluc said:
"We do use 100% of are brains"?
Now I have nothing against theorys but to make such a statement as fact WELL?
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I hate to toot my own horn here, but my educational background is in psychology. Yes, it is a theory, as much a theory as Evolution.

Every inch of your brain is being used right now, involuntarily and instinctually. But you do not control every inch of your brain, consciously. Hence the saying "People only use 10% of their brains", do you get it now? The misinterpretation? Please tell me you do because I don't know how to explain it simpler than that...
 
presluc said:
It is my fear that mankind is falling into the same realm as past times when everybody was sure the earth was flat and the earth was the center of the universe.
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Man, no one ever thought that.

No one.

The whole "earth is flat" nonsense comes from a relatively brief midevil period where the church used a Literalist interpretation of scripture on an illiterate public to maintain political power.

The church itself didn't even believe their propaganda any more than Obama think the stimulus packages will actually help economy.

We know that the ancients never thought this because, if nothing else, the Great Pyramid demonstrates their knowledge to the contrery with it's incorporation of global measurements in it's construction.

There never was a time when everyone thought the earth was flat for us to slip back to.
 
Lightdemon said:
I hate to toot my own horn here, but my educational background is in psychology. Yes, it is a theory, as much a theory as Evolution.

Every inch of your brain is being used right now, involuntarily and instinctually. But you do not control every inch of your brain, consciously. Hence the saying "People only use 10% of their brains", do you get it now? The misinterpretation? Please tell me you do because I don't know how to explain it simpler than that...
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Well, as long as you say it's a theory I have no problem with that.

However when you start making statements on how the brain works I have to question that.

Thinking something does not make it fact.
One needs no high educational background to know that.
 
presluc said:
Well, as long as you say it's a theory I have no problem with that.
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Your understanding of a theory is probably another misunderstanding. It is a theory because no evidence suggests that it's false, and therefore for all practical reasons, is considered no less than a fact.

To use the label theory, is to label something a fact until evidence suggests otherwise.

However when you start making statements on how the brain works I have to question that.

Thinking something does not make it fact.
One needs no high educational background to know that.
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And I stand by all of my statements because I know they are accurate. You don't seem to understand that you've been misinterpreting that god awful phrase.
 
Lightdemon said:
Your understanding of a theory is probably another misunderstanding. It is a theory because no evidence suggests that it's false, and therefore for all practical reasons, is considered no less than a fact.

To use the label theory, is to label something a fact until evidence suggests otherwise.



And I stand by all of my statements because I know they are accurate. You don't seem to understand that you've been misinterpreting that god awful phrase.
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No evidence suggest that a theory is false , and no evedince suggest that a theory is true either.
In fact most theorys are just a little more than speculation.
If this were not trure your so called theory would be fact would it not?
 
presluc said:
No evidence suggest that a theory is false
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Right, because then it would cease to be a theory

presluc said:
and no evedince suggest that a theory is true either.
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Then how is it even a theory? Usually has to have some sort of basis, right?

presluc said:
In fact most theorys are just a little more than speculation.
If this were not trure your so called theory would be fact would it not?
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A speculation is a speculation, a theory is an unproven law?


also, learn to spell-check. Get Firefox, it has built in spellchecker.
 
Jerry said:
Man, no one ever thought that.

No one.

The whole "earth is flat" nonsense comes from a relatively brief midevil period where the church used a Literalist interpretation of scripture on an illiterate public to maintain political power.

The church itself didn't even believe their propaganda any more than Obama think the stimulus packages will actually help economy.

We know that the ancients never thought this because, if nothing else, the Great Pyramid demonstrates their knowledge to the contrery with it's incorporation of global measurements in it's construction.

There never was a time when everyone thought the earth was flat for us to slip back to.
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Sorry to overlook your post, sir.

You say no one ever thought the earth was flat.

You say it was just a brief midevil period for the church to maintain political power

That would bring a couple of questions.
1 Were you in the medevil period you speak of, or are you just guessing that's what happened?
History has often been twisted through the years we do know that.
It has been said that alchemist and church leaders did not agree
2 In Medevil times the time you speak of more than one alchemist was considered as intellectuals were they not?
Some of these thought the earth to be flat are you saying people disputed that.
Much like I am doing to your theory, man.

As far as the Obama reference is this now a partisan political debate thread?
 
EpicDude86 said:
Right, because then it would cease to be a theory



Then how is it even a theory? Usually has to have some sort of basis, right?



A speculation is a speculation, a theory is an unproven law?


also, learn to spell-check. Get Firefox, it has built in spellchecker.
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Can not speculation be an unproven law just as easily as a theory?
 
presluc said:
As far as the Obama reference is this now a partisan political debate thread?
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Every single thread on DP, without exception, is a partisan political debate thread.
 
Jerry said:
Every single thread on DP, without exception, is a partisan political debate thread.
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Thanks for clearing that up.

I should never go off topic again even in the sex, the art or the science threads.
 
presluc said:
Thanks for clearing that up.

I should never go off topic again even in the sex, the art or the science threads.
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We will hold you to that, and troll you if you do :2wave:
 
Jerry said:
We will hold you to that, and troll you if you do :2wave:
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LOL, as the kids say "been there done that.

For the record I don't mind trolls as long as they can take as good as they give without snitching to the Moderators.
 
presluc said:
LOL, as the kids say "been there done that.

For the record I don't mind trolls as long as they can take as good as they give without snitching to the Moderators.
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Oh you're going to hate me then :lol:
 
Jerry said:
Oh you're going to hate me then :lol:
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Hate is such a strong word I seldom use it mostly on bigots very seldom on anybody that would snitch on me

Umm, didn't figure you for a snitch, Jerry.

Of cource it would depend on the action would it not ?

If you were to go to the Mods with every little infraction the Mods will be shall we say "overworked".
 
Jerry said:
Who said God could do just anything anyone thought up? There's a list of things God can not do. Since God can not do these things and is still omnipotent, we therefore know that "omnipotent" only includes the power to do what can logically be done.

Since "omnipotent" only regards what can logically be don, and God can do everything which is logically possible, God is therefore omnipotent.
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According to whom?

You appear to have redefined the term without acceptance from all parties.

Last I checked, omnipotence means capacity to do anything. Nonsensical and illogical acts fall within the subset of anything.
 
obvious Child said:
According to whom?

You appear to have redefined the term without acceptance from all parties.

Last I checked, omnipotence means capacity to do anything. Nonsensical and illogical acts fall within the subset of anything.
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One does not have to be able to do anything and everything at all what-so-ever to be omnipotent.

One needs only virtually unlimited authority or influence.

In this universe God has unlimited authority or influence. The rules of this universe do not allow a 4-sided triangle to exist, therefor God does not need to be able to create a 4-sided triangle in order to be omnipotent.

If authority and influence are like water and the universe a cup, then one is omnipotent when they have filled the cup regardless of the size or shape of the cup.

There are several things God can not do, yet God is still omnipotent in spite, therefore your artificial "must-be-able-to-do-anything" requirement is invalid.
 
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Jerry said:
One does not have to be able to do anything and everything at all what-so-ever to be omnipotent.

One needs only virtually unlimited authority or influence.

In this universe God has unlimited authority or influence. The rules of this universe do not allow a 4-sided triangle to exist, therefor God does not need to be able to create a 4-sided triangle in order to be omnipotent.

If authority and influence are like water and the universe a cup, then one is omnipotent when they have filled the cup regardless of the size or shape of the cup.

There are several things God can not do, yet God is still omnipotent in spite, therefore your artificial "must-be-able-to-do-anything" requirement is invalid.
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Well that's a new twist on an old style.
Judgeing what God can do ,based on the knowledge and accomplishments of Man.

Might as well say why didn't God make cold fusion easier to understand?

God gave mankind freewill I guess he probably figured if they want a 4 sided triangle mankind would use his brain and make one.
After all with FREE WILL comes brains and the power to use them.
Well, some of them.
 
Tucker Case said:
Some of the best intellectual beat-downs I've ever received were by people whom I totally disagreed with and still do, but they were better at thinking critically than I was about a topic.
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You're welcome!
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paris said:
So you clearly don't understand the concept of universality either.
Why I am not surprised
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Please -- explain to us all how you are right and we are wrong.
 
Jerry said:
No, God can not brake His own rules.
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Being omnipotent means that you can both break and not break the rules at the same time.
 
Lightdemon said:
The thing to realize here is that if we're going to discuss God in a logical manner, and then posit that God can be illogical, it becomes an exercise in futility.

God, therefore, must be a logical being if we are to seriously discuss about God.
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Not sure how there is a necessary relationship here.
Being able to break the rules of logic is an inherent part of omnipotence.
 
Jerry said:
Who said God could do just anything anyone thought up? There's a list of things God can not do. Since God can not do these things and is still omnipotent, we therefore know that "omnipotent" only includes the power to do what can logically be don.

Since "omnipotent" only regards what can logically be don, and God can do everything which is logically possible, God is therefore omnipotent.
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Power limited to only the logically possible is limted.
Omnipotence is having power not limited.

And really...
Having the power to defy logic seems impossible because of the limits of the human mind. It is no different than the classic 'flatlander' scenario where the inhabitants of flatland cannot conceive of what we call 'up'.

To believe that God is limited to the limits we place on the universe due to our understanding of same is rather narcisisitic.
 
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