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Does life on other planets disprove the BIble

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Aunt Spiker said:
Very true.
But, still, it is a purely human-thing.
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Not so. Logic is a science, like math and physics and chemistry. It is a universal constant, it applies to everything everywhere.

But, as my point suggests, if God is omnipotent, then He can defy things like physics and math and chemistry and... logic.
 
Goobieman said:
Not so. Logic is a science, like math and physics and chemistry. It is a universal constant, it applies to everything everywhere.

But, as my point suggests, if God is omnipotent, then He can defy things like physics and math and chemistry and... logic.
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These things only exist because people viewed what *was* and tried to explain the world with numbers, thoughts and reason.

And these things are subject to change depending on how we progress as a people and society, as well as exploration - they're based on human-understanding, which is always evolving and changing.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
These things only exist because people viewed what *was* and tried to explain the world with numbers, thoughts and reason.

And these things are subject to change depending on how we progress as a people and society, as well as exploration - they're based on human-understanding, which is always evolving and changing.
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Math is the onlyu thing that is universal across all human cultures. Nothing else has that distinction. No concepts.

If aliens are discovered, they will understand math. We might not have nay other thing that we can connect to them with, but math will be a common understanding.

Everything that exists can be explained through math. It's not that we created these concepts, they existed and all we did was discover and name them. They exist independent of our understanding.
 
Tucker Case said:
Math is the onlyu thing that is universal across all human cultures. Nothing else has that distinction.
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Not true. Think about your car's cigar lighter for a second;)
 
Aunt Spiker said:
These things only exist because people viewed what *was* and tried to explain the world with numbers, thoughts and reason.

And these things are subject to change depending on how we progress as a people and society, as well as exploration - they're based on human-understanding, which is always evolving and changing.
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Yes... but that doesnt change anything I said.
Humans may desceibe these things to their ability to understand, but humans did not create these things
 
Tucker Case said:
Math is the onlyu thing that is universal across all human cultures. Nothing else has that distinction. No concepts.

If aliens are discovered, they will understand math. We might not have nay other thing that we can connect to them with, but math will be a common understanding.

Everything that exists can be explained through math. It's not that we created these concepts, they existed and all we did was discover and name them. They exist independent of our understanding.
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This is exactly correct, and my point as well.
 
Tucker Case said:
They don't even put them in cars nowadays either. Maybe he's going for intoxicants or drugs of some sort being universal? :confused:
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They do, you just have to pay extra.
But stll...:confused:
 
Agent Ferris said:
But Galileo never claimed to be the word of god.



The bible doesn't claim to be a theory, it claims to be the word of an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent god. And even if it did claim to be a theory then what good is it? Theories which are completely wrong get thrown in the dustbin, are you saying that the bible should go the way of heliocentrism and geocentrism?



So then you admit that it's a fiction book depicting a the life and times of a fictional character named God? I agree.
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The bible was written by man man makes mistakes this does not mean the whole bible is fiction.
After whole being kind to others would not be a ficticous thought nor would not killing or not stealing, or helping another person ect.
In short the bible has some good ides some questinable.

Just as science throughout history has had some good ideas , some questionable like say cold fusion a good idea but soesn't work or space travelto distant galaxies a good idea but hasn't been done.
This is not to say these ideas are fiction they just haven't been proved

However scietist have been proven wrong just as well.
Example,
Scientist of a certain period said the earth was flat WRONG
Scientist of a certain period said earth was the center of the universe WRONG
Scientist of a certain period said the sun revolved around the earth WRONG

Bottom line the bible was never perfect, but then neither is the scientific/atheist/ intellectuual groups.
 
presluc said:
However scietist have been proven wrong just as well.
Example,
Scientist of a certain period said the earth was flat WRONG
Scientist of a certain period said earth was the center of the universe WRONG
Scientist of a certain period said the sun revolved around the earth WRONG
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Note specifically that these things were determined thru observation.
 
Goobieman said:
Scratching my head on that one, too.
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Oh well scratch your head on the universality of language across all human cultures then:cool:
 
paris said:
Oh well scratch your head on the universality of language across all human cultures then:cool:
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I'm sorry... if you want your cryptc messages to mean anything to anyone other than yourself, you'll have to make them less cryptic.
 
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