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Enjoy life in prison then.
For the chance to kill the bastard that molested my nieces? Gladly.
Enjoy life in prison then.
Last I checked, we threw rapists and the likes in jail.
That's what a civilized society does.
Tell that to my nieces.
And pedophiles do get out of jail. Why do you think we have laws that require sexual devients to register in the area that they live in? And that more often than not such registries are open to the public?
We were not talking of rapists, but of pedophiles!
And they come out of jail and continue with their activities. Check out your statistics on how many pedos reoffend.
A society that does not protect its most vulnerable in order not to step on the toes of "human rights" of criminals can not call itself civilized!
Please, enough emotional outburst and appeal to emotion. The crime we are talking about is incredibly destructive and violent. But that doesn't excuse throwing all rules of civility and society out the window for Punisher style vigilantism.
You do realize that when the Libertarian is saying that maybe you're acting crazy, there's a problem right?
Tell that to my nieces.
And pedophiles do get out of jail. Why do you think we have laws that require sexual devients to register in the area that they live in? And that more often than not such registries are open to the public?
Tell me, have you ever had a child close to you get molested? Until you do you do not have the right to tell me that I have a problem.
The recidivism rates for child molesters is similar to that of other violent crimes.
Perhaps I read the wrong case. Could you link it for me?
The State also suggests that there should be an implied exception to the act in the case of minor children, arguing that children have a reduced expectation of privacy because parents have an absolute right to monitor all telephone calls coming into the family home. The federal wiretap statute, which makes interception of communications legal where one party consents, has been interpreted to permit parents acting to protect the welfare of a child, to consent vicariously for their child to the recording of their child's conversations....The Washington act, with its all-party consent requirement, contains no such parental exception and no Washington court has ever implied such an exception. We decline to do so now.
One or two hundred? Try around 58,200 non-family kidnappings per year. While that may be insignificant compared to 300+ million people living in the US it is still no small number. And I don't know about you but if even one kid gets kidnapped and is later found dead that is one too many. No matter the statistical probability.
missingkids.com
115 children were the victims of “stereotypical” kidnapping. (These crimes involve someone the child does not know or someone of slight acquaintance, who holds the child overnight, transports the child 50 miles or more, kills the child, demands ransom, or intends to keep the child permanently.)
I wouldn't doubt it. It shows to me that the parent is far more likely to be concerned with their kids health and welfare than they are about wanting to hurt them. A person that wants to hurt their kid wouldn't spend that kind of money on them.
As for the jealous husband bit that is an extreme example. Same with the lover.
Tell that to the ones that are convicted.
I'm an American and I would happily pull the trigger towards any pedophile.
Those who, in your words, "committed no actual criminal offenses", spend their time watching kiddy porn.
You can split hairs all you want, just tell me: if your child was abducted and used in kiddy porn, and you had the chance to meet with the person/people who were doing it to your child would you be thinking of their "diagnoses" or how many "criminal offences" did they commit, or would you simply kill them?
And that suppose to be of comfort how?
You still didn't answer a simple question: if your child was abducted, raped, used in kiddy porn then killed, would you be as politically correct and liberal thinking, or would you kill the pedo?
Don't think that just because I haven't experienced something personally that I can't understand it.
But you can't.
I work with victims of crimes, I see how they suffer, and still I can't say I understand their suffering! The part I find the most difficult to understand is how do parents continue living after pedos had their way with their child and killed the child afterwards.
Splitting hairs? I'm merely referring to accurate terminology. You inaccurately implied that the term "pedophile" was interchangeable with the term "child sexual abuser," which it is not. Pedophilia, as identified by the APA's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, is a paraphilia in which a person experiences a prolonged sexual attraction to prepubescent children.
And what do you think they do with their "prolonged sexual attraction to prepubescent children"?
Please, answer me a question: if your child was abducted and used in kiddy porn, and you had the chance to meet with the person/people who were doing it to your child would you be thinking of the correct terminology, their "diagnoses" or how many "criminal offences" did they commit, or would you simply kill them?
And what do you think they do with their "prolonged sexual attraction to prepubescent children"?
Please, answer me a question: if your child was abducted and used in kiddy porn, and you had the chance to meet with the person/people who were doing it to your child would you be thinking of the correct terminology, their "diagnoses" or how many "criminal offences" did they commit, or would you simply kill them?
Me wanting to kill the guy would have no bearing on what is to be done.
Well, comrade...there's a difference between having a gut instinct to do something and seriously and analytically developing public policy. That's why appeals to emotion fail. :shrug:
I have every right to speak my mind. Don't think that just because I haven't experienced something personally that I can't understand it. And while I can understand the outrage and anger for such an act, we cannot allow that anger to destroy that which we have built. There are inherently many dangers to vigilantism, not limited to getting the wrong guy. It's why we have courts, it's why people are presumed innocent until proven guilty. You are acting crazy in this case, sorry. It's absurd to start to promote the break down of society and the basis of the judiciary system based on isolated cases and appeal to emotion.
When your child is living with you and under the age of 18 there is no such thing as "invasion of their kid's privacy". It is a parents duty and right to make sure that their children are not doing things that they are not suppose to be doing. It is such mentality as the quoted post that has allowed kids to think that they can get away with anything.
And that's the whole point!
Pedos must be killed, whether by justice system, relatives of victims, a mob -- irrelevant! Those who gratify their perversions by torturing and raping children must be dead.
While you might have a right to speak your mind to do so without it having happened to you gives any arguement that you might put foward irrelevant.
As for the part in bold....You can never understand it. Don't even try to say that you do. It is one thing to say that you understand and quite another to actually understand because it did happen to you. It's like me claiming that I understand what it's like to jump out of an airplane just by watching it. While I might understand the basics I will never truely understand it until I experiance it myself.
All of your comments are based on the same cheap and shallow appeals to emotion
And that's why your politically correct libertarian ponderings on a matter are hollow.
As for the part in bold....You can never understand it. Don't even try to say that you do. It is one thing to say that you understand and quite another to actually understand because it did happen to you. It's like me claiming that I understand what it's like to jump out of an airplane just by watching it. While I might understand the basics I will never truely understand it until I experiance it myself.