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What should be President Barak Obama's top priority?

What should be President Barak Obama's top priority?

  • Gaining International Support

    Votes: 1 3.0%

  • Regulating Wall Street

    Votes: 3 9.1%

  • Unemployment

    Votes: 9 27.3%

  • Health Care

    Votes: 6 18.2%

  • Climate Change

    Votes: 1 3.0%

  • Immigration

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • Silencing dissenting views

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • Gay/Lesbian Rights

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • The War on Terror

    Votes: 8 24.2%

  • Education

    Votes: 1 3.0%
  • Total voters
    33
  • Poll closed .
Kandahar said:
But that was an anomaly. They haven't killed that many people anywhere else in the world, before or since. The average attack kills far less.
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So?

If you're claiming that it's impossible to happen again, say so, otherwise your point is mysterious.
 
GySgt said:
The president hasn't the luxury of prioritizing the needs of this country and the free world. At most, the day determines his priority. .
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Yeah, I know what you mean.

When it's time to dribble, play golf, campaign, whatever comes up first, that takes clear precedence over the duty of the Commander in Chief to determine what "victory" means in terms of Afghanistan and how best to achieve that with minimal loss of American lives.

Whatever comes first, that's what the Prez has to do. You people elected him so that no one would have to decide what's important.

BTW, wtf do you think "leaders" are for? And no, I don't mean the monofilament line on pre-packaged fish hooks.

I mean, you pretend to be a sergeant. Should the commander in the field require his troops to fight the infantry coming up in front, because they were there first, and he should ignore the artillery because that started coming in after the enemy infantry showed up.

I seriously hope you were a sergeant in someone else's Boy Scout troop.
 
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Scarecrow Akhbar said:
You mean like the war in Afghangland, which was forced upon us by the Afghanis.
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Have to disagree, just like we aren't fighting the Afghan people or the Iraqis per se, we are fighting the warlords in power, such as the Taliban, Al Queda, Baath party, etc. The people of that region are probably as war weary as we are, yet we have the luxury of complaining, their lives depend on these terror groups and supporters being irradicated.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Yeah, I know what you mean.

When it's time to dribble, play golf, campaign, whatever comes up first, that takes clear precedence over the duty of the Commander in Chief to determine what "victory" means in terms of Afghanistan and how best to achieve that with minimal loss of American lives.

Whatever comes first, that's what the Prez has to do. You people elected him so that no one would have to decide what's important.

BTW, wtf do you think "leaders" are for? And no, I don't mean the monofilament line on pre-packaged fish hooks.

I mean, you pretend to be a sergeant. Should the commander in the field require his troops to fight the infantry coming up in front, because they were there first, and he should ignore the artillery because that started coming in after the enemy infantry showed up.

I seriously hope you were a sergeant in someone else's Boy Scout troop.
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I am somewhat stunned at the above highlighted comments. Who is the "you people?" Surely you don't believe the person you are responding to voted for Obama are you? That would be news to me.

In addition, not knowing whether or not anyone who claims they served have or not, I would prefer giving them the benefit of the doubt and treat them with some respect due to their service and give some deference to their opinions on matters of military import.

These are just a few of me thoughts about your caustic comments towards someone who is a great asset to the forum and makes a lot of sense. :shock:
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
So?

If you're claiming that it's impossible to happen again, say so, otherwise your point is mysterious.
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My point is that spending such an inordinate amount of resources on something that only kills a few hundred people per year is a little silly. In terms of lives saved, we'd be better off fighting a war on swimming pools. :roll:
 
I'm seriously the only person to vote education?
 
What SHOULD be Obama's top priority?

Make government SMALLER, LESS INTRUSIVE and LESS EXPENSIVE.

Repeal regulations and mandates
Reduce spending
Eliminate unconstitutional agencies and programs
Reduce taxes
Reduce the national debt
Stop foreign aid
Stop needless wars
Uphold the Constitution
 
Goobieman said:
Yours is an intentionally false standard - the number of people that have died each year is not the driving force behind the war against terrorism, it is the threat of attack on the US -- partictualy an attack on a US city w/a WMD.

There is little question that there are terrorist groups that will, if given the slightest opportunity, attack a US city with a WMD.

The numer of people that -will- die in an a WMD attack is enormous, and the effect on the nation, on numerous levels, is incalcuable; this damage far outstrips any from any of the other issues mentioned.
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You can't really believe that the war on terrorism is effective. Simple math and common sense proves that a lie. try this on for size. There are easily 12 million illegals in America. Some say 20 million but lets low ball it. Roughly 85% of those come from Central/South America. Meaning 15% come from other areas. Or 1.5 million give or take. A group of terrorists working independent from any other group or nation could easily sneek in and raise havoc. Its not hard to get 20 terrorists out of the 1.5 million illegals snuck into America.Statically the odds are greater that they are already here then not. Iraq/afgan wars stop nothing. The weak..we haven't had a single terrorist attack on American soil since 9-11 is a fluke at best. It took 8 yrs between the 93 WTC and 9-11. People who support the 2 wars are living under a false sense of security. Live in fear if you want but leave the rest of our nation out of it.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
You mean like the war in Afghangland, which was forced upon us by the Afghanis.
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Wrongo, they forced nothing on us. Nor did Iraq. If we didn't interfer throughout the world there would have been no 9-11.
 
vvx said:
Although that was tragic, how many die annually from something as simple as the flu? I think putting all the money we have spent on the wars into healthcare for US citizens would have saved many more lives.
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36,000 from flu.
Did you know on average 6700 Americans die every day.
 
pugetsoundwa said:
Wrongo, they forced nothing on us. Nor did Iraq. If we didn't interfer throughout the world there would have been no 9-11.
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A simple statement. Also an ignorant one. Unfortunately the world is a bit more complex than this. Had we answed Al-Queda's call after every dead military man abroad througout the 90s there would have been no 9/11. Had we just allowed Kuwait to fall to the Hussein and risk the world's oil resource supply stability there would have been no Al-Queda. Had we allowed the Soviets to win over the Middle East, thereby owning the very resource that builds powerful armies, there would have been no...what? Qutb (Sunni Arab) named us an enemy of God for our culture long before we "interefered" even with Iran. Of course, our meddling in Iran had nothing to do with the greater Sunni Arab population of Islam so that bit of international diplomacy had nothing to do with nothing.

And when we consider how destroyed and wrecked the Middle East is because of centuries of European colonialism and bad border engineering followed up by the brutal oppression and aggression of Russians and Soviets upon Muslims throughout the Cold War.....the idea that 9/11 occurred because of our "interfering" demands that the overwhelming offenses of everybody else didn't happen.

We are the chosen enemy. Even during the Cold War, when the Soviets were oppressing and brutalizing hundreds of millions of Muslims in the Caucusus and invading Afghanistan, we were "God's enemy." Even as we assisted Muslims against the Soviets in Afghanistan and later saved Muslims in Kuwairt and Bonsia, we are "God's enemy." Those who cater to their excuses for dead Americans is as ignorant as the uneducated suicide bomber who buys into the same simpleton crap.

Culture is fate. And their culture is one of failure. Instead of blaming that which prescribes their culture (Islam, God, whatever) they choose a foriegn devil to take responsibility. Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan were never colonized. The Tali-Ban was a Muslim creation. The overwhelming Muslim death over the last 50 years has been at the hands of other Muslims. Even Al-Queda has targetted Muslims far more than any American troop. Like I stated...culture is fate. Make them take responsibility for their own sewage for a change.
 
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Kandahar said:
Why is it the most pressing issue? The number of people who die from terrorism is tiny. A better focus would be on preventing proliferation of nuclear weapons and other WMDs, as those have the potential to do some serious damage.

A few bands of morons who manage to set off a bomb every few years are not actually a threat to national security.
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How soon you people want to forget.

Three Thousand

DEAD

Americans

in ONE morning.

It should never be allowed to happen again, and it should not go unpunished.

Why you people side so readily with the enemies of my children is a mystery I don't want the answer to.
 
pugetsoundwa said:
People who support the 2 wars are living under a false sense of security. Live in fear if you want but leave the rest of our nation out of it.
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And why would you label it "living in fear?" Why can't it be just a simple wish to punish the enemy? Perhaps they feel perfectly secure because these two wars are not the end all be all of this effort to create security. Troops are deployed all over. The CIA is active. International agreements have created a new sense of "Big Brother." Civilian agencies in private industry throughout the world help to create security for travel. I don't feel fear when I deploy. Are you telling me that the average American who supports the war(s) feels "fear" as he flips channels on his DirectTV?

Or is "fear" just bumper sticker wisdom in place of actual thought into the matters?
 
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IMHO his top priority should be to RESIGN the Presidency.
 
pugetsoundwa said:
Wrongo, they forced nothing on us. Nor did Iraq. If we didn't interfer throughout the world there would have been no 9-11.
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Wrong.

I'm old enough to remember the events of September 11, 2001 personally.

So, yes, the Afghanis forced themselves into a war with the United States.

If that's not what they wanted, they shouldn't have tolerated the Taliban, their government, that started the war in the first place.

Facts, you're not allowed to escape them, they chase you forever.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
How soon you people want to forget.

Three Thousand

DEAD

Americans

in ONE morning.
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That's just 3% of the 100,000 civilians we killed Iraq via Desert Storm and our sanctions. But like you said, "how soon you people want to forget."

Karma is a bitch!
 
His top priority should be his retirement in 2012 :mrgreen:
 
Catawba said:
That's just 3% of the 100,000 civilians we killed Iraq via Desert Storm and our sanctions.
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Life's a bitch. I guess they should have removed their dear leader before he annoyed us.

Let's see....Desert Storm....that's when Hussein tried to steal Kuwait.....so the onus of EVERY SINGLE dead person in that conflict rests on his head, now dead.

Catawba said:
But like you said, "how soon you people want to forget."
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Yes.

How soon fools forget who started which wars because they're memory chips are reprogrammed by the DNC on a daily basis.


You might also want to note that the people killed by Desert Storm were almost ALL Iraqis. Since I'm a US citizen, I rate the dead on citizens on September 11th with a factor of infinity over the dead citizens under terrorist/totalitarian rule.

People who've been in the military have a good habit of doing that.
 
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