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Is Cooking an Important Skill or just a Great Hobby ?

Is cooking an important skill or just a fun hobby ?

  • skill

    Votes: 10 27.8%

  • hobby

    Votes: 2 5.6%

  • both

    Votes: 20 55.6%

  • neither

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • other

    Votes: 4 11.1%
  • Total voters
    36
last week, my roommate asked me
- how to cook spaghetti
- what was that noise when I cooked meat

:doh
 
NEUROSPORT said:
not true. yes we were designed to burn but we were also designed to go be hungry most of the time.

your body can burn energy only very slowly compared to the rate at which it can digest food. if that wasn't the case we would be extinct by now. unless you work out 5 hours a day like michael phelps or like arnold schwarzenegger used to - you will need to have a reasonable diet.

but working out more than about an hour a day is counterproductive - it leads to overtraining unless you're a genetic freak or on steroids. so you really have to limit your calories ( unless again you are naturally a toothpick ).
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:lol: that's what fat gyms tell ya.


You can work out as much as your body can adapt. There is no hard time limit.



I train 2-4 hours daily, rest on the weekends. been doing so for years.
 
NEUROSPORT said:
until i actually moved out and started doing it. i spend time and money shopping. i spend time cooking. and i spend more money buying associated equipment. at the end of the day i now seriously doubt that cooking is actually cheaper than eating out or ordering in as long as you place any sort of value on your time at all. it seems to save only a small amount of money but wastes an enormous amount of time.
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Cooking your own food is significantly more nutritious than eating out in restaurants. One thing I notice about low income families is that they tend in many cases not to know how to cook, so they waste a lot of money on prepared foods that are very high in carbs, fat and salt. Which is part of the reason that so many poor people are overweight.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Cooking your own food is significantly more nutritious than eating out in restaurants. One thing I notice about low income families is that they tend in many cases not to know how to cook, so they waste a lot of money on prepared foods that are very high in carbs, fat and salt. Which is part of the reason that so many poor people are overweight.
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It's not the dietary fat in your diet, the body burns that happily, it is the carbs that make you fat.
 
reefedjib said:
It's not the dietary fat in your diet, the body burns that happily, it is the carbs that make you fat.
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Incorrect.




Its the input vs. output that makes you fat or not. Period.




You can cheat it by doing one of those lo carb diet, but you suffer for it and they don't last. :shrug:
 
reefedjib said:
It's not the dietary fat in your diet, the body burns that happily, it is the carbs that make you fat.
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It's both. The problem with a diet consisting primarily of processed foods is that they tend to be inordinately high in BOTH fats and carbs. And they aren't even the healthy fats, they are hydrogenated fats that clog your arteries and screw up your body.

Eating a diet solely of prepared foods will put most people at a caloric intake that is so high that they can't possibly burn off all the calories unless they are running marathons....
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
:lol: that's what fat gyms tell ya.


You can work out as much as your body can adapt. There is no hard time limit.



I train 2-4 hours daily, rest on the weekends. been doing so for years.
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how much you can train depends on both your physiology and your goals.

if you are young and your goal is endurance you should train a lot.

if you are older and your goal is strength you should train less.

endurance comes from training.

muscle mass comes from steroids.

strength comes from the central nervous system.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Incorrect.




Its the input vs. output that makes you fat or not. Period.




You can cheat it by doing one of those lo carb diet, but you suffer for it and they don't last. :shrug:
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Not true. Do your research.

Here: What if It's All Been a Big Fat Lie? - The New York Times

It is not as simple as calories in and calories out. It is the quality of the calories.

Low carb diets are hard to stay on because we are so addicted to carbs and there are carbs in everything. HFCS is a particularly evil invention. But low carb diets are healthy and you can lose a lot of weight.
 
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Catz Part Deux said:
Cooking your own food is significantly more nutritious than eating out in restaurants. One thing I notice about low income families is that they tend in many cases not to know how to cook, so they waste a lot of money on prepared foods that are very high in carbs, fat and salt. Which is part of the reason that so many poor people are overweight.
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the reason low income people are overweight is because they are stupid.

stupid, fat and ugly goes hand in hand.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
It's both. The problem with a diet consisting primarily of processed foods is that they tend to be inordinately high in BOTH fats and carbs. And they aren't even the healthy fats, they are hydrogenated fats that clog your arteries and screw up your body.

Eating a diet solely of prepared foods will put most people at a caloric intake that is so high that they can't possibly burn off all the calories unless they are running marathons....
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I agree with everything you have said. The screwed up thing is that use of hydrogenated fats resulted from an attempt to reduce saturated fats which turn out to be fine for you. A diet of steak and veggies serves you better than a diet of processed foods.
 
reefedjib said:
It's not the dietary fat in your diet, the body burns that happily, it is the carbs that make you fat.
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no sonny boy. you know jack ****.

all these theories about carbs make you fat or fat makes you fat or whatever makes you far - are crap.

this is all pseudoscience. twisting logic and selectively picking evidence to justify premediated conclusions.

the only real scientific conclusion is that CALORIES make you fat.

now some people may have success with low carb diets. some people may have success with low fat diets. it doesn't prove ****. in the end its not about which diet you pick its whether you have the discipline to stick to it.

i follow a ballanced diet myself but compared to the diet of average ameircan swine you could call it a low carb diet. i mean i don't drink soda, don't eat bread or pasta or potatoes. but i don't necessarily avoid carbs completely - i just avoid excess carbs. just as i avoid excess fat ( no butter, mayo or sour cream ).
 
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reefedjib said:
Not true. Do your research.

Here: What if It's All Been a Big Fat Lie? - The New York Times

It is not as simple as calories in and calories out. It is the quality of the calories.

Low carb diets are hard to stay on because we are so addicted to carbs and there are carbs in everything. HFCS is a particularly evil invention. But low carb diets are healthy and you can lose a lot of weight.
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We have guys losing 30-40-50lbs in three months-4 months, controlling just thier caloric intake, and training.


Eating what the want, but accounting for it. You body will naturally crave higher quality foods, but "addiction to carbs" is a marketing phrase.



Diets, ultimatley do not work, its a lifestyle change.
 
NEUROSPORT said:
no sonny boy. you know jack ****.

all these theories about carbs make you fat or fat makes you fat or whatever makes you far - are crap.

this is all pseudoscience. twisting logic and selectively picking evidence to justify premediated conclusions.

the only real scientific conclusion is that CALORIES make you fat.

now some people may have success with low carb diets. some people may have success with low fat diets. it doesn't prove ****. in the end its not about which diet you pick its whether you have the discipline to stick to it.

i follow a ballanced diet myself but compared to the diet of average ameircan swine you could call it a low carb diet. i mean i don't drink soda, don't eat bread or pasta or potatoes. but i don't necessarily avoid carbs completely - i just avoid excess carbs. just as i avoid excess fat ( no butter, mayo or sour cream ).
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Yep, you're low carbing it. I reduced calorie diet typically involves less carbs and healthy veggies...it's low carbing. That is how you are losing weight. You don't have to worry about the fat. Eat your butter, mayo, sour cream, ribeye steak - no worries. You get that ****, buddy?
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
We have guys losing 30-40-50lbs in three months-4 months, controlling just thier caloric intake, and training.


Eating what the want, but accounting for it. You body will naturally crave higher quality foods, but "addiction to carbs" is a marketing phrase.



Diets, ultimatley do not work, its a lifestyle change.
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They are probably controlling carbs - no sodas, more veggies.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Incorrect.




Its the input vs. output that makes you fat or not. Period.




You can cheat it by doing one of those lo carb diet, but you suffer for it and they don't last. :shrug:
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yes input vs output is 90% of the equation.

the other factors to consider are:

1 - keeping up basal metabolic rate

2 - preserving muscle mass ( which in turn keeps up metabolic rate and soaks up nutrients which would otherwise get stored as fat )
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Nope, controlling calories. Eating whatever they want. Check with lerxst, he is on basically the same program we reccomend.
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I'm sticking to my guns. It is primarily carbs. Now if you are going to engorge yourself on 5000 calories a day don't be surprised you gain weight - like the guy did in Super Size Me, a lot of those cals were carbs. Carbs are directly converted to glucose which is burned as fuel, directly converted to glycogen and directly converted to fatty acids -> triglycerides. Fat is burned in lipolysis.

Read the link I posted: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/07/magazine/what-if-it-s-all-been-a-big-fat-lie.html
 
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reefedjib said:
I agree with everything you have said. The screwed up thing is that use of hydrogenated fats resulted from an attempt to reduce saturated fats which turn out to be fine for you. A diet of steak and veggies serves you better than a diet of processed foods.
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exactly my negroe.

and that is where you have to realize that all this ****ing crap you hear from "experts" is just, well crap.

they were wrong about replacing saturated fat with hydrogenated fat.

they were wrong about their food pyramid that emphasized bread and pasta.

how many times do they need to be dead wrong for you to realize that they are just full of **** ?

just eat natural foods and exercise restraint in the amounts you eat.
 
reefedjib said:
I'm sticking to my guns. It is primarily carbs. Now if you are going to engorge yourself on 5000 calories a day don't be surprised you gain weight - like the guy did in Super Size Me, a lot of those cals were carbs. Carbs are directly converted to glucose which is burned as fuel, directly converted to glycogen and directly converted to fatty acids -> triglycerides. Fat is burned in lipolysis.

Read the link I posted: What if It's All Been a Big Fat Lie? - The New York Times
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:lol: A day like today? I'll eat about 5k. I wont care what, just 5k and not gain a lb.


Days like today (I'll be rolling for about 2 hrs, BJJ and have an Ice hockey game), I'll down chocolate milkshake, a chicken parm, lots of fries, and anything else, just to meat my minimum net calorie intake to maintain my current weight.


Carbs is fuel as well, nothing works better for energy in the afternoon/evening than a big plate of french toast with sysup! :thumbs:



Input-vs-output.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
:lol: A day like today? I'll eat about 5k. I wont care what, just 5k and not gain a lb.


Days like today (I'll be rolling for about 2 hrs, BJJ and have an Ice hockey game), I'll down chocolate milkshake, a chicken parm, lots of fries, and anything else, just to meat my minimum net calorie intake to maintain my current weight.


Carbs is fuel as well, nothing works better for energy in the afternoon/evening than a big plate of french toast with sysup! :thumbs:



Input-vs-output.
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You did say you workout 2-3 hours a day, didn't you? I'd expect you to burn all those carbs.

Me I am struggling to walk 10,000 steps a day (half hour of walking) and am taking in about 2500 cals and low carbing medium. I can't stop going to MickeyDs for breakfast and that's not good for me. Pad thai or other pasta dish is delicious to me.
 
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NEUROSPORT said:
the reason low income people are overweight is because they are stupid.

stupid, fat and ugly goes hand in hand.
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Zip up your pants, the ignorance of your statements are hanging out.

Catz was correct, and you are completely wrong and your answer is so stupid I find it hard to think anyone would say that.

PS your kind of ugly goes to the bone buddy.
 
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how could we have been so ****ing stupid as to believe that saturated fat and cholesterol are bad for us when our own body stores energy as saturated fat and our own liver produces 100 times more cholestrol than we eat ?

instead we were convinced by these nutrition experts that we're better off eating essentially plastic ( hydrogenated fat ) which is not found in any form of life except the poor people eating it.

i was young and gullible back then - i thought that information that comes from the government ( FDA ) has some credibility to it. of course now i know better. now i know that 9-11 was an inside job and just what government actually is. also now i know that nutrition books are written to make money not because there is any actual knowledge to be shared.

and even if there was no vile intent its just the fact that 99% of people are stupid as **** which includes 90% of scientists.

would our body really manufacture saturated fat and cholesterol if it was killing us ? is evolution really about favoring those who are most suicidal ? how ****ing stupid did the person have to be to come up with such theory ?

i learned my lesson. i don't trust anything any more. everything is ****ing lies. wake up and smell the coffee !
 
reefedjib said:
You did say you workout 2-3 hours a day, didn't you? I'd expect you to burn all those carbs.

Me I am struggling to walk 10,000 steps a day (half hour of walking) and am taking in about 2500 cals and low carbing medium. I can't stop going to MickeyDs for breakfast and that's not good for me. Pad thai or other pasta dish is delicious to me.
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I eat Pad thai, Or Drunken noodles at least weekly, love the stuff...



Use the "daily plate" feature at livestrong.com, it will change your life.
 
reefedjib said:
Yep, you're low carbing it. I reduced calorie diet typically involves less carbs and healthy veggies...it's low carbing. That is how you are losing weight. You don't have to worry about the fat. Eat your butter, mayo, sour cream, ribeye steak - no worries. You get that ****, buddy?
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i been researching nutrition since mid 90s and don't need lessons from random people on the internet.

i avoid the carb sources i mentioned because they spike insulin which leads to diabetes and heart disease. also through building up insulin resistnace they make the body less efficient.

now mayo or sour cream doesn't have those drawbacks but its still relatively empty calories and extremely energy-dense foods. i don't need that garbage in my body thank you very much.

with carbs its not only the amount, but the speed of release that matters. i avoid all high-glycemic carbs like soda but don't mind the low-glycemic carbs like salad.
 
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