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Wow you won in 1923 great. And the likelyhood of that happening today is what?
I guess we'll eventually find out, won't we
Wow you won in 1923 great. And the likelyhood of that happening today is what?
Well gays are getting married in all 50 states and some of them recognize them.
Well gays are getting married in all 50 states and some of them recognize them.
Then there's nothing left to fight for. They want to get married, and according to you they are. So that's it, pack up and go home, the issue is resolved.
There is more to it and you know that.
People buy ahouse together build it work on it and then one dies.
In a heterosexual marriage the state recognizes a right for the surviving spouse.
The typical example pro-gm uses is where only one of the gay couple's names is on the deed, dies, his family wants to claim the house, and the survivor doesn't have a leg to stand on because his name is not on the deed nor is there a will.
That's why I ****ed with you
The house now belongs to the surviving person on the deed. If there are no survivors on the deed, wills are pulled out. If the will doesn't resolve ownership, then we go to automatic inheritance.
No, it doesn't. That's one of the many myths about marriage perpetuated by pro-gm to farm votes. It's simply not true.
If the surviving spouse's name is not on the deed, they have no claim to it, hetero marriage or otherwise.
Marriage doesn't even enter into the discussion, as even business partners who would never dream of marrying each-other can buy a house together and the same would be true.
If a gay couple bought the hose together (which means both names are on the deed), the survivor still owns the house when the other dies. There is nothing about that person's death with reverses the transaction.
If one person's name is on the deed and the other is not, but the will leaves the house to the gay partner, that's who it now belongs to.
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The typical example pro-gm uses is where only one of the gay couple's names is on the deed, dies, his family wants to claim the house, and the survivor doesn't have a leg to stand on because his name is not on the deed nor is there a will.
I was talking about dead not divorce.
There should be a will. I'm 28 and I have a will.
Maybe it's the businessman in me but I leave nothing to assumptions. If it's not written down and agreed upon it doesn't exist.
I was talking about dead not divorce.
There should be a will. I'm 28 and I have a will.
Maybe it's the businessman in me but I leave nothing to assumptions. If it's not written down and agreed upon it doesn't exist.
Again:Okay fine make your own private world. See if I or anyone else cares. In the mean time I will stick with reality.
“No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
Yes... but the question is:Read the 14th. It doesn't say right. It says privilege. If marriage is a privilege then the states can not under the 14th amendment deny it. If it is a right. It can not denied either.
Yes... but the question is:
Is Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right?
Irrelevant. Neither States nor the federal government have the power to deny it to citizens if it is a privilege OR a constitutional right.
Irrelevant?Irrelevant.
Well they seem to think they do, and have.
They also made Jim Crow laws. You place too much faith on this states rights bull****.
Its the topic under discusion.
See: title of topic
This, alone, means that marriage is a privilege, not a right, as rights exist independent of an act of creation by the government.
No, I am just stating facts.
States rights are one of the core values this nation was founded under.
Of course you seem to like Federal Government involvement and entitlement in every aspect of peoples lives, so oh well.
This is all irrelevant to the question of if Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S. -- the question asked in the poll and thus the topic at hand.1. If marriage is a right then the States are in violation of the constitution.
2. If marriage is a privilege then the States are in violation of the constitution.
Yes, I did, as that was my answer to the question asked by the poll.You yourself stated it was a privilege
Irrelevant to the topic under consideration.The fact that you choose to define gay marriage as being any different than marriage is a weak distraction. No different than trying to create a difference between interracial marriage and white-white marriage or black-black marriage.
And it's the reason we had a civil war, Jim crow laws, abuses of the 1st amendment, lynchings of whites, blacks, Asians etc. Forgive me if I don't respect those 'values'.
No. I don't buy into the justification that made people slaves.
This is all irrelevant to the question of if Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S. -- the question asked in the poll and thus the topic at hand.
Yes, I did, as that was my answer to the question asked by the poll.
Irrelevant to the topic under consideration.