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Do you enjoy bull**** ?

Do You Enjoy being fed Bull**** ?

  • yes i love it

    Votes: 10 52.6%
  • no

    Votes: 9 47.4%

  • Total voters
    19
Moderator's Warning:
Cease the personal attacks or there will be further consequences.
 
Moderator's Warning:
Cease the personal attacks or there will be further consequences.


Good greif the moderation here is so precious it makes a Huggy Bear look like a crazed grizzly looking for payback ranger meat.
 
So why am I here?

I refer you to the title of this thread.

Yes, yes I do.
 
as far as amphetamines vs tomatoes - a little amphetamines when you're driving drunk can make the difference between getting home and spending the night in jail for falling asleep behind the wheel and driving into a wall.

10/10 You trolled the thread into 18+ pages now, well done.





But...on the off chance that what I quoted above was spoken in truth, you have no credibility whatsoever. Please stop contaminating the gene pool with your pyschosis.
 
To my fellow libertarian minded posters: I'd ignore Hautey and his obnoxious anti-libertarian rants. He has a Pavlonian reflex to foam at the mouth and post insulting and sweeping generalizations at the mere mention of the word "libertarian" or any derrivtive of it. Once you realize he just can't help himself, you realize its best just to ignore him.

That said, SOME libertarians are way too dogmatic and unyielding. SOME libertarians do have an almost religous faith in the all powerful free market. They refuse to acknowledge the lessons we can learn from history that show us things like anti-trust laws or basic safety regulations to protect the consumer from hidden dangers or laws preventing child labor are a good things that benefit both individuals and society at large. These are the type of libertarians that give the group a bad name and they should be confronted and debated by moderate, critical thinking libertarians. But really, I fail to see any difference between the libertarian looneys and a rabid left or right wing idealogue. Every political movement will have its share of looneys. Libertarians are a smaller group, so I'll concede our looneys might stand out a bit more, but they still are in now way represenative of the entire libertarian philosophy or movement. Of course it would take being a responsible "political adult" to realize that, so I won't hold my breath waiting for certain folks to come to that realization.
 
I was going to make a response to Hatuey, but I think that you're right. Hatuey sure engages in a lot of sweeping, sophmoric generallizations for a "Political Adult"
 
J If anyone is a damned teenager its you and the other “liberals” who are so deadly afraid of individual freedom and responsibility that you’ll perpetuate the failed and unjust statist policies of the past.

I have the same concern about partisan, party-loyalists, the vast majority of which are conservative or liberal, but you don't see me going around making rude and baseless blanket statements about either ideology…

I thought these two statements deserved to be reposted :roll:
 
there is one huge difference. christian fundamentalists are brought up as such from early childhood. they are brainwashed since before their brain is even developed.

i accepted libertarianism when i was already a college graduate after already having been exposed to other ideologies including communism ( i grew up in the soviet union ). it wasn't forced on me by parents or teachers. i expended a considerable amount of energy to FIND IT for myself.

i kept rejecting the ideologies that were being pushed on me because they didn't fit with either evidence or logic. i kept looking for something that was true and with Libertarianism i finally found it.

Trust me, not all christian fundamentalists are raised that way. My father, after living in a fairly nonreligious family, growing up, and doing a lot of drugs, found Jesus and became a huge christian, to the point that he doesn'
t vote or have good friends outside of his religion, and would even refuse a blood transfer, because his church tells him not to.
 
OK, i declare victory.

thread closed ...

Not yet.

I would disagree with your point # 5 concerning religious principles and our leaders. Supposedly, god told GWB to go to war, he was obviously led by religious principles. Whether we as the American people actually agree with those principles is the issue that is debatable.

Also I don't quite understand why you say that "black people are the same as white except for color" is bullsh*t. Why? I'm not arguing one way or another, I just want to know what you mean?
 
Not yet.

I would disagree with your point # 5 concerning religious principles and our leaders. Supposedly, god told GWB to go to war, he was obviously led by religious principles. Whether we as the American people actually agree with those principles is the issue that is debatable.

can you define *obviously* for me ?
 
can you define *obviously* for me ?

From Merriam-Webster



Main Entry: ob·vi·ous·ly
Pronunciation: \-lē\
Function: adverb
Date: 1638

1 : in an obvious manner <showed his anger obviously>
2 : as is plainly evident <obviously, something is wrong>
 
From Merriam-Webster



Main Entry: ob·vi·ous·ly
Pronunciation: \-lē\
Function: adverb
Date: 1638

1 : in an obvious manner <showed his anger obviously>
2 : as is plainly evident <obviously, something is wrong>

how is it plainly evident that god told him to help people of iraq and protect america ? were you THERE when god was talking to him ?

i think what is plainly evident is that both bush and cheney were in the oil business before they were in the white house.
 
how is it plainly evident that god told him to help people of iraq and protect america ? were you THERE when god was talking to him ?

i think what is plainly evident is that both bush and cheney were in the oil business before they were in the white house.

No I wasn't there.

I don't think I explained myself in such a way that you would clearly understand it.

I'm not saying god "actually" told him something, because god does not exist. But that's a different topic.

What I'm saying is that GWB was led by religious principles, atleast in his own eyes. We might not think they are religious principles, but he did.

Maybe its just something that's difficult to explain.


EDIT: Actually this ties in well with your other "trust" poll you recently made. GWB was quoted saying that (basically) he was on a religious mission in the Middle East. Now, do I believe this bullsh*t? Definitely not. I also know that he and Cheney are both greedy oilmen, no debate there.

But we don't know for sure whether he was genuinely doing what he did based on his personal beliefs or his greed. We don't know that.
 
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