Originally Posted by Voidwar
The fact that we currently punish citizens after release does not justify itself.
Its just what we are doing now, and that does not add in to a discussion of whether it is the right thing to do or not.
I disagree with the practice, completely.
A free citizen has the right to weapons for self defense.
This need does not go away just because the citizen did time.
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As I explained, NO , IT DOES NOT.
IT is just how we have been doing it so far.
Your "Consequence", is a violation of the Second Amendment, since we end up with a member of "the people" who's right to keep and bear arms is permanently infringed.
If you can lose em, THEY ARE PRIVELEGES.
It is merely how it has been, and it has been an ongoing violation of our constitution. It is not logical to release a man but release him as a second class citizen with a neutered set of rights. We are supposed to have one set of equal rights for all citizens. Citizens convicted of crimes are still citizens. As such, denying them their rights, whether they be suffrage, or the right to keep and bear, or the right to buy a home for sale in an overzealous sex offender bailiwick, is unconstitutional.
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I already have shown it. Releasing a citizen with a neutered set of rights is inconsistant with our sytem of law. Citizens have the right to self defense, and the right to use weapons to succeed in that end. Suffrage ? To borrow your tactic of quoting the Declaration, , No Taxation without Representation !! Sex offender crap ? OBVIOUS violation of the fifth and the fourteenth.
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No, they are rights, and they cannot be violated after incarceration is over.
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False. My reasoning may be simple, but that does not make it unsound. My reasons are mostly quoted directly from the Bill of Rights, or other Constitutional Amendments, but also from documents like the Declaration, and even possibly subjective notions about the spirit of this country. . .