Many of you said so, even only several months ago.
Still think so?
Have to disagree. Without dissent, service to country is easily rendered blind obedience. For everyone, there comes a point where every person has to stop and question the wisdom of their leaders--and those who refuse to do so are not rendering any good service to anyone.No, service to one's country is the highest form of patriotism. Dissent comes in a close second.
I think that patriotism is a foolish concept to be honest.
Yet, its this foolish concept that wins wars for America. The most patriotic minded nation in the world has a track record for winning. France has a history of losing land to invaders while relying upon outsiders for salvation and they mock our patriotism. Coincidence?
Is it?Let's assassinate the President. That's dissent right?
Assassinate1 : to withhold assent
- Pronunciation: \di-ˈsent\
- Function: intransitive verb
- Etymology: Middle English, from Latin dissentire, from dis- + sentire to feel — more at sense
- Date: 15th century
2 : to differ in opinion
Killing someone for political gain is not an expression of disagreement over one's opinions, but the outright dismissal of those opinions. That's not dissent, merely a more cold-blooded form of political chicanery.1 : to injure or destroy unexpectedly and treacherously
- Pronunciation: \ə-ˈsa-sə-ˌnāt\
- Function: transitive verb
- Inflected Form(s): as·sas·si·nat·ed; as·sas·si·nat·ing
- Date: 1607
2 : to murder (a usually prominent person) by sudden or secret attack often for political reasons
How about showing love and devotion to your place of residence because you live there?I don't think it is wise to show love or devotion for an individuals place of residence solely because they were born there no.
How about showing love and devotion to your place of residence because you live there?
I am glad I was born in this country, but my patriotism arises from the fact that I like living in this country.
It's great we were born here no doubt, but would a person showing patriotism because they lived in Uganda be right in doing so?
Killing someone for political gain is not an expression of disagreement over one's opinions, but the outright dismissal of those opinions. That's not dissent, merely a more cold-blooded form of political chicanery.
Yes. I have a great deal of respect for the people in this country, even though I disagree with many of them. I love my country, even though I don't always like what we as a country do. I think patriotism is not about thinking your country is perfect, but about taking pride in what you do right.
I don't know, I've seen "patriotism" used for nefarious purposes for which I completely disagree.
It is usually accompanied by a tag line with which ignorant people run around quoting to silence criticism.
I just don't feel the connection like others I suppose.
I have seen guns used for nefarious purposes for which I completely disagree. Does not mean that guns are bad.
Oh, there's no denying that there's a lot of dumb dissent out there. Still, if someone disagrees with the status quo, for whatever reason, without a little dissent, nothing will ever get done about the status quo.Or a cold blooded form of dissent? I think assassinating a politician pretty much sums up a disagreement of sorts.
Dissent, protests, etc. is a must. But I wouldn't call it the greatest form of patriotism. Our recent history is full of people dissenting over their ignorant opinions without understanding a thing outside their borders.
I understand that, I guess it's best to be skeptical of anyone using the term patriotism to support something.
I think it can be a tool for manipulation and would prefer a love of local community or a love of the general idea's that a country represents.
I'm glad your back btw your definitely one of my favorite liberals. :2wave:
Long term best interest is a vague notion--and not easily defined.I just think that someone showing patriotism while their country is doing things that are not in their long term best interest is stupid.
Oh, there's no denying that there's a lot of dumb dissent out there. Still, if someone disagrees with the status quo, for whatever reason, without a little dissent, nothing will ever get done about the status quo.
I look at it this way--without dissent, this country would not exist. Dissent may not always be right, but it's always necessary--and that is why I put it at the top.
Dissent is the action in my book.Dissent without action is useless. Sitting at home bitching about democrats, or republicans, or politicians, is worthless. Action is needed.
Dissent is the action in my book.
Many of you said so, even only several months ago.
Still think so?