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Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

Should protesters be allowed to curb free speech in this country?

  • Yes. Protests are protected by the Constitution.

    Votes: 20 55.6%

  • No. If protesters stop free speech, they should be removed by police.

    Votes: 14 38.9%

  • If fake protesters & their masters should be prosecuted.

    Votes: 6 16.7%
  • Total voters
    36
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Really? So you have evidence that you ever critisized the kook ant-war crowd?

Lets see it.
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Why don't you spend less time with this dishonest attempt at impeaching people here with comments. You failed to do so with me, and it only proves just how pathetically poor your whole argument is. Either deal with the concept, or admit failure.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Really? So you have evidence that you ever critisized the kook ant-war crowd?

Lets see it.
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You simply refuse to stay on topic & continue to try to steer this topic into your preferred direction.
Why are you so afraid of the American voter hearing the truth?
 
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Devil505 said:
I agree....but does ANY protester have the right to prevent MY First Amendment rights?
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Someone cannot prevent your rights by counter protesting.

I was a Protest Warrior in Chicago. I did a couple counter protests and it had nothing to do with disrupting anything they had to say. They are out protesting in large numbers, kind of hard to infringe on their right to be heard.

PS In fact they video tapped us and collected our phone numbers, emails and addresses and put it in a video on the internet.

Now you tell me who was trying to stifle free speech?
 
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Devil505 said:
You simply refuse to stay on topic & continue to try to steer this topic into your preferred direction.
Why are you so afraid of the American voter hearing the truth?
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Why are you, you are the one throwing a tantrum over the American people disagreeing with your king.



Your hypocricy is noted.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Why are you, you are the one throwing a tantrum over the American people disagreeing with your king.



Your hypocricy is noted.
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And you inability at comprehension in regards to the topic is noted as well. Good day :2wave::2wave:
 
Blackdog said:
Someone cannot prevent your rights by counter protesting.
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If they shout me down so that I can't speak......They most certainly can prevent me from exercising my Fist Am. rights. (watch some of the town hall tapes)
 
Devil505 said:
If they shout me down so that I can't speak......They most certainly can prevent me from exercising my Fist Am. rights. (watch some of the town hall tapes)
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nope, that just means you are weak, and have a shrill girly voice. hire a voice coach and get louder than them.. hypothetically of course.


You have a right to free speech, you do not have a right to be heard.
 
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sam_w said:
And you inability at comprehension in regards to the topic is noted as well. Good day :2wave::2wave:
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Will you be posting on the topic at all or are you just having a tantrum in the Good Reverend's direction?
 
Devil505 said:
If they shout me down so that I can't speak......They most certainly can prevent me from exercising my Fist Am. rights. (watch some of the town hall tapes)
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Oh please, get a bull horn like everyone else. They are well within their rights.

Besides I have seen plenty of left wingers do exactly the same thing and no one whined about they are blocking our free speech!
 
Blackdog said:
Oh please, get a bull horn like everyone else. They are well within their rights.

Besides I have seen plenty of left wingers do exactly the same thing and no one whined about they are blocking our free speech!
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And you note, Devil505 only has an issue when its not a left winger counter protesting....
 
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The lame personal attacks and thread derailment stops now. Any further personal attacks will result in thread bans and/or infractions.
 
Devil505 said:
If they shout me down so that I can't speak......They most certainly can prevent me from exercising my Fist Am. rights. (watch some of the town hall tapes)
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If you didn't make baseless accusations of a group of protesters being fake otherwise slandering the integrity of that group then you may have gotten better results.
 
jamesrage said:
If you didn't make baseless accusations of a group of protesters being fake otherwise slandering the integrity of that group then you may have gotten better results.
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Unfortunately these are well orchestrated by conservative lobbying groups. Nice try though.
 
There are such a thing as agents provocateurs who are hired by government to make protests turn violent so that they can be shut down. It's no conspiracy, it has happened all over the world, including places like Canada, the U.S., the U.K., etc.

I think it is more likely that if organizations or government wanted protests shut down that they wouldn't hire a large group, they'd just hire one person who discredits the protest and causes riot police to descend upon the masses.
 
sam_w said:
Unfortunately these are well orchestrated by conservative lobbying groups. Nice try though.
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Do you have proof sam or is this another one of your red herrings? I'll eagerly await your proof...
 
P/N said:
Do you have proof sam or is this another one of your red herrings? I'll eagerly await your proof...
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Excuse me? Red herring? Ok, I suppose when a lobbyist has his own game plan leaked you can just ignore that huh? And when another lobbyist group lists out where to send people, ignore that ok. Just ignore the local FOX station reporting that people were not even from that district, do ignore that. I guess you can also just ignore the lobbying group ADMITTING they are going to do that. By all means, for god's sake just ignore that ok.

Thank YOU for posting a red herring, kudos :2wave: PLONK
 
sam_w said:
Excuse me? Red herring? Ok, I suppose when a lobbyist has his own game plan leaked you can just ignore that huh? And when another lobbyist group lists out where to send people, ignore that ok. Just ignore the local FOX station reporting that people were not even from that district, do ignore that. I guess you can also just ignore the lobbying group ADMITTING they are going to do that. By all means, for god's sake just ignore that ok.

Thank YOU for posting a red herring, kudos :2wave: PLONK
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Linkies? Just you saying so isn't quite proof now is it? And do you really want to compare conservative protests being organized to liberal protests being organized? (hint: you don't) But I'll give you one more shot to provide proof.
 
Orius said:
There are such a thing as agents provocateurs who are hired by government to make protests turn violent so that they can be shut down. It's no conspiracy, it has happened all over the world, including places like Canada, the U.S., the U.K., etc.

I think it is more likely that if organizations or government wanted protests shut down that they wouldn't hire a large group, they'd just hire one person who discredits the protest and causes riot police to descend upon the masses.
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What evidence is there to support your claim that this happens and what actual evidence you have to support your claim that this happening with the protest that is the subject of the OP? If there videos of government agents paying people to do these things?
 
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sam_w said:
Unfortunately these are well orchestrated by conservative lobbying groups. Nice try though.
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Reading back, it looks like you are one of these fringe types that uses the "because we say so" debate tactic. On this issue, I need more than the stupidest press secretary appointed by the most unqualified president in U.S. history telling me these protesters were planted, these dbags get no credibility points anymore and you will need more than their word as proof.
 
P/N said:
Linkies? Just you saying so isn't quite proof now is it? And do you really want to compare conservative protests being organized to liberal protests being organized? (hint: you don't) But I'll give you one more shot to provide proof.
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Already posted. I can't help you if you can't bother to read.

LaMidRighter said:
Reading back, it looks like you are one of these fringe types that uses the "because we say so" debate tactic. On this issue, I need more than the stupidest press secretary appointed by the most unqualified president in U.S. history telling me these protesters were planted, these dbags get no credibility points anymore and you will need more than their word as proof.
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I see, another who did not bother to read. Henceforth you have no argument.

Either read my post fully or admit you have failed. P/N you can admit to yourself throwing in a red herring. It's all there for you, already posted.
 
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