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Should a person be allowed to commit suicide?

Should the state allow people to commit suicide?


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I challenge you to show where did I speak about anyone getting punished.

So many voters here have seemed to take the assumption that the state would punish the person for trying to commit suicide.
The poll was about whether the state should allow people to suicide or not.
Should it let people kill themselves or intervene when it can.

Oh, I thought you meant legally, as in, jail people who attempt suicide. I don't see any other way to ban suicide.

Anyways, if someone I loved was considering suicide I would do everything in my power to stop them. Usually it is a spur-of-the-moment thing anyways, and they'd be happy later to not have gone through with it.
 
Drugs do not cause anything to happen to people who do not ingest them. Perhaps the people who do ingest the drugs cause pain, but that is the responsibility of those people, not of the drugs.

It is the drugs addictive chemicals that makes a person do what they ordinarily, in their right mind, would not do. While yes the person does have a responsibility in their actions the two are intricately entwined.
 
I think terminally ill patients should have the legal ability to end their suffering.

I agree... Nothing will change a mind quicker than watching your Wife die of Cancer,,,slowly. That sucks...:censored

Peace
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I quite frankly really don't understand the reasoning behind your points, AT ALL. The answer to someone feelingas though their life is not worth living shouldn't be "Okay, go kill yourself", but "How can we help? What can we do as a society to solve these problems with you?"

If I wanted to kill myself I would want society to but out. In all fairness if someone wants to die, let them.

The state does not own my body nor does society, I do. So they would let me as an adult make my own decisions regarding the stewardship of my own person unless I infringe on someone else's right.

It is simple.

We as a society have a duty of care to one another, and the idea that we should sanction suicide as opposed to fufilling this duty seems macabre.

Then you have no idea what freedom and personal responsibility is as well.

It is not my job as a member of society to take care of anyone but my own immediate family. As a Christian I choose to help the less fortunate etc, but it is not forced by the government.

It has nothing to do with the government sanctioning anything. It is the government keeping it's nose out of peoples private business.
 
Suicide is against common human nature. It is a gray area to me, one that I have thought about very much. I would think that most people, who have no terminal illness, suffer from either depression, or some other mental disorder, thus with treatment thay would not choose suicide. So, I would not legalize suicide for common people. Only those with terminal illness.

Actually, i wouldn't legalize suicide for the common people just for the politicians. :2party:

Seriously, I don't think that the State should have a proactive prevention of it my main concern is if the State begins to promote euthanasia for illnesses which are costly or in some other way is inconvenient.
 
If a person is determined to kill themselves, there's really not a damn thing anyone can do to stop it, short of putting them under guard 24/7, with no privacy at all. Do I think that someone who unsuccessfully attempts to take their own life should be forced into treatment? Yes, I do. I see no reason to give up on someone because they happen to be in a bad place mentally/emotionally. With treatment, most can be helped. Circumstances can change, and with that, one's outlook on life can improve or even reverse completely. More difficult for me is the issue of assisted suicide for those that modern medicine can't help. There's no denying the potential for abuse in such a case. A person may feel guilty because they perceive themselves as being a "burden" on their loved ones, and feel pressured to end their lives when they don't really want to. If I knew someone who was planning to take their life, I would do everything in my power to prevent it.
 
I like the wording, ‘the state allows us to do something.’
State: You are allowed to make your own decisions as long as you follow our fixed state guidelines.
The individual as the right to end their own life, the state should not be in the practice of allowing individual choices when it comes to their own life; it’s not in their function to allow such things.
Well, it should not be.
Of course, the state thinks they are the master and we are the slave.
 
I like the wording, ‘the state allows us to do something.’
State: You are allowed to make your own decisions as long as you follow our fixed state guidelines.
The individual as the right to end their own life, the state should not be in the practice of allowing individual choices when it comes to their own life; it’s not in their function to allow such things.
Well, it should not be.
Of course, the state thinks they are the master and we are the slave.
The state has no thoughts, we the people rule the state.
 
You can't stop someone from committing suicide, it's ridiculous to try. The funny thing is, we only punish those who FAIL, the ones who succeed get off scott-free.
 
The question is very complex and I don't believe there is a one-size-fits-all answer. Some people with an incredibly high degree of intelligence have thought about their existence long and hard enough that they know its termination is the right thing to do; others want to end it because of prolonged suffering which could be ended with some simple intervention; still further, others end it prevent their families from enduring the shame of their actions (like in Asia).

Suicide is mostly illegal so that interventionism has a chance to play a role. Obviously if the person is successful then it doesn't matter, but if they aren't, then it means the full extent of helpful resources will be obligated to come to their aid in order to assess the situation.

I personally don't have much faith in modern psychiatry, especially in terms of its medicative tendencies, but even so, there are many skilled professionals who can help a person get out of their rut.
 
In response to the conversation in the Law and Order forum;
Do you believe that the state should allow people to kill themselves if they wish to?

And another question, if one of your closest friends was about to commit suicide, would you stop him/her from doing so?
Be allowed to commit suicide? Who is anyone to allow or prevent me from ending my life?
 
But it is. :roll:

The government no longer represents the people. If this were the case the bailouts would not have happened under Bush and Obama and a long list that continues to grow.

So no, it is not true anymore.

The state is now a small group of individuals who are trying to consolidate wealth and power at the expense of the common man. The common man has little voice anymore. "The people" have been effectively blind folded and pushed aside.
 
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Be allowed to commit suicide? Who is anyone to allow or prevent me from ending my life?
Who is anyone is a good question.
I'd bet that it wouldn't be just anyone.
 
The government no longer represents the people. If this were the case the bailouts would not have happened under Bush and Obama and a long list that continues to grow.

So no, it is not true anymore.
Democracy's highest value that without it a state cannot be called a democracy is the people's rule.
Are you suggesting that the US, for example, is not a true democracy?
 
Democracy's highest value that without it a state cannot be called a democracy is the people's rule.
Are you suggesting that the US, for example, is not a true democracy?

The US has never been a true democracy. True democracy is just tyranny by majority rule.

The US is supposed to be a representative republic. A form of democracy. Career politicians and public apathy have made certain that the Republic no longer works as it was intended.
 
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The US has never been a true democracy. True democracy is just tyranny by majority rule.
A true democracy also has a law that's called "the law to prevent majority's tyranny" or something like that.
I'm serious, I've actually studied the issue quite a long time ago. :2razz:
 
Who is anyone is a good question.
I'd bet that it wouldn't be just anyone.
I just find it highly amusing that people think passing a law to ban suicide is going to actually accomplish anything.
 
A true democracy also has a law that's called "the law to prevent majority's tyranny" or something like that.
I'm serious, I've actually studied the issue quite a long time ago. :2razz:

Hehehe!

How am I supposed to respond with you razzing me!
 
I just find it highly amusing that people think passing a law to ban suicide is going to actually accomplish anything.
I find it highly amusing that people don't bother to read posts #42, #70.
 
I find it highly amusing that people don't bother to read posts #42, #70.
...And? I think you're confused. I was not accusing you of being one of the people I was referring to. I merely quoted your post because it was the first post in this thread.
 
...And? I think you're confused. I was not accusing you of being one of the people I was referring to. I merely quoted your post because it was the first post in this thread.
My bad, then.
 
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