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If Meth Was Legalized...

If Meth Were Legal, Would You Use It?

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Goshin said:
Not a chance. I've seen meth addicts.

Hail I'm pretty much decaffinated these days, don't drink alcohol anymore, and keep swearing I'm going to give up cigars one of these days.


I'm presuming the point has to do with drug legalization, as a counterpoint to assumptions that legalization would cause an increase in use?
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Having seen the results of the poll, how have you reexamined your position, if at all? Not saying the results qualify as proof of anything, I'm just curious.
 
Ethereal said:
Having seen the results of the poll, how have you reexamined your position, if at all? Not saying the results qualify as proof of anything, I'm just curious.
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I have leaned, albeit reluctantly, towards legalization of most drugs for a long time.

Things like Meth that just eat a person alive though... I still don't know about that. It seems very closely akin to legalizing assisted suicide, which is another one I have a hard time deciding on.

The only Pro-legal argument for Meth and similar killers that would make sense would be "make it easier for these people to remove themselves from the gene pool and from society as they seem intent on doing, and hopefully sooner rather than later." That's also a pretty harsh thing, even if perhaps realistic.
 
Goshin said:
I have leaned, albeit reluctantly, towards legalization of most drugs for a long time.

Things like Meth that just eat a person alive though... I still don't know about that. It seems very closely akin to legalizing assisted suicide, which is another one I have a hard time deciding on.
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This is understandable. I can empathize with the dilemma of letting people throw their lives away but from a moral perspective I don't see much justification for government interference in such a process, and from a practical perspective I think these laws serve to exacerbate drug abuse rather than alleviate it.

The only Pro-legal argument for Meth and similar killers that would make sense would be "make it easier for these people to remove themselves from the gene pool and from society as they seem intent on doing, and hopefully sooner rather than later." That's also a pretty harsh thing, even if perhaps realistic.
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I say legalize drugs, use the money we save to protect good folks and the money we earn through taxes to fight poverty via infrastructural improvements; let the drug addicts go somewhere away from decent society and do what they would be doing anyway.

Local governments could regulate or restrict the manufacture and distribution of hard drugs to their heart's intent. They could also fine tune public intoxication and possession laws to meet their needs.

Like you said, it's about being realistic.
 
Goshin said:
I have leaned, albeit reluctantly, towards legalization of most drugs for a long time.

Things like Meth that just eat a person alive though... I still don't know about that. It seems very closely akin to legalizing assisted suicide, which is another one I have a hard time deciding on.

The only Pro-legal argument for Meth and similar killers that would make sense would be "make it easier for these people to remove themselves from the gene pool and from society as they seem intent on doing, and hopefully sooner rather than later." That's also a pretty harsh thing, even if perhaps realistic.
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That is the plus of being pro liberty, your addressing reality for what it is and not what we want it to be.

It is the most logical philosophy to have.
 
NO. And it shouldn't be legalized. Why legalize such an addicting drug that puts so many into poverty? To make more voters for the Democratic Party? Add more burden to welfare and medicaid? Legalizing drugs like this will only add the the amount of dependence people have on government, and will expand welfare.
 
Lakryte said:
NO. And it shouldn't be legalized. Why legalize such an addicting drug that puts so many into poverty? To make more voters for the Democratic Party? Add more burden to welfare and medicaid? Legalizing drugs like this will only add the the amount of dependence people have on government, and will expand welfare.
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There is no evidence that suggests legalizing any drug will lead to a demonstrable increase in usage.
 
Goshin said:
The only Pro-legal argument for Meth and similar killers that would make sense would be "make it easier for these people to remove themselves from the gene pool and from society as they seem intent on doing, and hopefully sooner rather than later." That's also a pretty harsh thing, even if perhaps realistic.
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How about the argument that it is not the government's job to protect people from their own bad decisions?

Anyway, I have no desire to try it.

I'm happy with my pot. No addiction and I enjoy the buzz.
 
Lachean said:
I'm not afraid to try ANYTHING once,

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Another one of those "cliche cool" things to say.

Have you tried jumping off of a 500ft building with no cord and parachute once?
 
:twocents: This one is about the worst drug on the market at least by reputation. And was why that one was chosen for this thread. Irregardless, I wouldn't use it if it were legal now. I wouldn't use pot either and i think that is nearly harmless with moderate use.
 
Addiction rates for meth are staggeringly high, and only about 7% of those who go through treatment will successfully kick their addiction. I understand the pro-drug-legalization argument here, but there are some drugs that, IMO, should never be legalized because they are dangerously toxic. Meth is one of those drugs.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Addiction rates for meth are staggeringly high, and only about 7% of those who go through treatment will successfully kick their addiction. I understand the pro-drug-legalization argument here, but there are some drugs that, IMO, should never be legalized because they are dangerously toxic. Meth is one of those drugs.
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Just the fact that the cooking process for this particular drug involves using brake fluid should be a tip off that it's not a good idea to consume it.
 
EgoffTib said:
Lye is also used in extracting DMT from the Mimosa Hostilis. It's only going to hurt you if you are unprepared for the task at hand.
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Oh, I'd say no one is ever prepared to ingest it though. :shock:
 
LaMidRighter said:
Oh, I'd say no one is ever prepared to ingest it though. :shock:
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Then do not ingest it. Rubber gloves, safety glasses and a surgical mask are all things easily obtained which keep you protected from lye.
 
EgoffTib said:
Then do not ingest it. Rubber gloves, safety glasses and a surgical mask are all things easily obtained which keep you protected from lye.
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True, but let's think about the people who cook this stuff, if they get the mix just wrong you're pretty much screwed, you'll get either too much lye or brake fluid in the product, not good.
 
EgoffTib said:
Then do not ingest it. Rubber gloves, safety glasses and a surgical mask are all things easily obtained which keep you protected from lye.
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You can't tell me that lye doesn't leave a toxic residue in the final product.
 
LaMidRighter said:
True, but let's think about the people who cook this stuff, if they get the mix just wrong you're pretty much screwed, you'll get either too much lye or brake fluid in the product, not good.
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Well I can only speak to the individuals performing DMT extractions and they're a bit smarter than your average meth head.
 
Ethereal said:
...would you use it?

(This question assumes you do not currently use meth)
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**** no! There is no legitimate or logical reason to use meth. It's horrible...it's made from stuff under the kitchen sink! I'll entertain arguments about drugs in general being legal, but even if this **** was legal there's no way in hell I'd willingly use it. Stick to pot folks.
 
Arch Enemy said:
No. I've seen the effects of a meth user. I would rather drink drain-o.
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Heheh, the irony is that meth is sometimes made with Drain-O.
 
EgoffTib said:
Well I can only speak to the individuals performing DMT extractions and they're a bit smarter than your average meth head.
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I'm talking street product here though, some of those same extractors are also users, and the clean ones aren't exactly chem majors, they make a mistake, and you have a bad day.
 
LaMidRighter said:
I'm talking street product here though, some of those same extractors are also users, and the clean ones aren't exactly chem majors, they make a mistake, and you have a bad day.
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That's why I would never purchase DMT. It's much easier to do it yourself, thus ensuring you have total control over the end product.
 
EgoffTib said:
That's why I would never purchase DMT. It's much easier to do it yourself, thus ensuring you have total control over the end product.
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True, but, I think we can all agree it's still a very dirty drug.
 
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