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Do you think MJ ever molested any kids?

Do you think Michael Jackson ever molested any kids?

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RightinNYC said:
Here's my reasoning.

He has a thing for kids, so he invites them all over and lets them sleep in his bed, etc. Weird, but not necessarily proof of anything. Then, the first kid accuses him of molestation and the world goes crazy. Huge scandal, ruins his image, costs him millions, etc. Let's say that that accusation was a total lie and that he never did anything with that kid.

What would a reasonable person do in that situation?
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We're not talking about a reasonable person - quite the opposite actually.

Everything possible to stay the **** away from little boys or any appearance of impropriety.[/B] If you've been accused of molesting kids, you never go near a kid again. The fact that he continued to invite kids over and do the same things after that indicates to me that there is something seriously wrong in his head, which makes it all the more plausible for me to believe that he did do shady **** with some kids.
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I don't think an inclination towards pedophilia is necessarily dependent upon mental illness. Obviously, there will always be some mental illness inherent to pedophilia, but it certainly isn't a clear indicator of potential.

Many pedophiles, in fact, are quite astute at hiding their desires and actions from the public at large, either maintaining a complex duel identity or simply withdrawing from society altogether. Michael Jackson fits neither one of these descriptions.

Not all pedophiles are demonstrably neurotic, and not all people who are demonstrably neurotic are pedophiles.
 
Kandahar said:
I disagree. There was no evidence that he exposed himself to any children. Sleeping in a bed with children is not illegal. As for dangling his kid off a balcony...that would certainly be child endangerment, but I doubt an isolated incident would be enough for CPS to permanently take away his kids.
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Just because you are wearing white gloves in your avatar, doesn't mean you have to defend him. It's ok, really......
 
Kandahar said:
What makes you think he did it for attention? How does it even make sense to claim he slept with kids for attention, when he didn't publicly admit to it until he was specifically asked about it during a documentary?
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With dangling the kid, it was obviously attention. With sleeping wiht the kids it was THEIR attention he sought.


He was starting to go a bit crazy by 1993, but certainly not as much as he was by the end of his life.
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It was progressive. And he brought all his later hardship on himself by making really stupid decisions.


It also wasn't a conviction. What makes you think he was guilty? The kid's family was obviously interested in extorting as much money from him as possible, instead of sending him to prison.
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I didn't say he was guilty. You said he was innocent by claiming that the claims were false. I said "I don't know for sure" because I'm being honest. You don't know for sure, either, so when you say they are "false accusations" you are lying.

You honestly don't know what the kids family was interested in doing. You really don't. you ASSUME that's what they were doing, but you don't know. teh only person making blanket statements is you.


I'm not suggesting he didn't make any mistakes in his life. But a lot of the things that led him down that path (the molestation allegations, his own childhood abuse, etc) were the result of petty people taking advantage of him. This is what I think makes him such a tragic figure.
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I just want to point out that most child abusers were also abused as children. I find it humorous that when the sympathy card is being played for him, his childhood is often brought up as a reason to pity him, but it isn't ever brought up as a legitimate argument about why there may indeed be some degree of validity to the charges against him.

I really don't pity him all that much. I personally know many more people who have had far ****tier lives without ANY of the benefits and opportunities he had. Sucks for him that he didn't have a childhood. It would've sucked more if he had to work in a sweat shop in the Congo. To me, it's about as tragic than the canceling of My Name is Earl.

I think having loving parents is a hell of a lot more important to a child's upbringing than being wealthy...but that's just me.
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I think a mentally stable parent is FAR more important than just love and just money.

You've accused their mother of being a gold-digger but won't even entertain the idea that Michael was a dangerously unstable parent who proved himself to be willing to endanger his children for the lols.

Does being a gold digger make her an unfit mother? Not really.

Does dangling one's kid off of a balconey make one an unfit father? Oh hell ****ing yeah it does.

Does sleeping in the same bed with children that aren't yours even after you've been accused of molestation show that you are an unfit parent? Yes.

Does being a drug addict worsen this unfit parenting? Of course.

Can you tell me one quality about this guy outside of "he loved his kids" that displays he was in any way shape or form a fit parent?
 
WI Crippler said:
Just because you are wearing white gloves in your avatar, doesn't mean you have to defend him. It's ok, really......
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I think I'm going to be MJ for Halloween this year. That would be an awesome costume. ;)
 
Kandahar said:
Yes he would. Their mother didn't want them. She was basically just a surrogate who bore his children as a favor to him.
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If he wasn't rich, those kids would never have been purchased, caused they weren't made with his baby batter, that's for sure.
 
Kandahar said:
I disagree. There was no evidence that he exposed himself to any children. Sleeping in a bed with children is not illegal. As for dangling his kid off a balcony...that would certainly be child endangerment, but I doubt an isolated incident would be enough for CPS to permanently take away his kids.
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These are valid contentions but you isolated your conclusion from one crucial fact. Michael Jackson was mentally ill. This alone is sufficient cause for a termination in parental rights.
 
Ethereal said:
These are valid contentions but you isolated your conclusion from one crucial fact. Michael Jackson was mentally ill. This alone is sufficient cause for a termination in parental rights.
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Fair enough, I can't argue with that. ;)
Anyway, back to the molestation charges.
 
Kandahar said:
Do you think Michael Jackson ever molested any kids? The more I read about the accusations against him, the more strongly I believe that he did not. There was never any actual evidence against him...and there was plenty of evidence that the families of the kids who were accusing him were in it for the money.

Michael Jackson had a lot of mental issues and he was wealthy...which made him an easy target for the charges of child molestation. He was an especially easy target in the 2005 case, since he had already been accused once and his public image was already sullied.

But I see no reason to believe he ever harmed anyone. He loved kids, I don't think he would ever do anything to hurt them.
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I do not believe he molested any kids. He made the mistake of settling out of court hoping it would go away, but instead all that do was encourage more scam artist. What kind of ****ed parent goes "sorry Timmy I know the mean molested you and possibly did all kinds of other horrible things to you but he gave us a **** load of money to shut the hell up,so we are going to let him do the same thing to other children". If I was Jackson and the first time one of these accusations happened I would made an example out of that family. I would have cleared my name in court and put that family through litigation nightmare in order to make them go broke defending themselves in court and then I would have sued to get their children removed and anything else I could to ruin their lives.


That said I still find all the dead Michael Jackson jokes funny.
 
Pedos don't only molest two kids. I think if he was a bonafide pedo, we'd hear more accusations. Most kids who hung out with him sang his praises, even the child celebs.
 
Kandahar said:
Do you think Michael Jackson ever molested any kids? The more I read about the accusations against him, the more strongly I believe that he did not. There was never any actual evidence against him...and there was plenty of evidence that the families of the kids who were accusing him were in it for the money.

Michael Jackson had a lot of mental issues and he was wealthy...which made him an easy target for the charges of child molestation. He was an especially easy target in the 2005 case, since he had already been accused once and his public image was already sullied.

But I see no reason to believe he ever harmed anyone. He loved kids, I don't think he would ever do anything to hurt them.
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Why did he have a lock and an alarm on his door that let him know people were coming?
 
It was just innocent pajamma parties. :roll:
 
herenow1 said:
Pedos don't only molest two kids. I think if he was a bonafide pedo, we'd hear more accusations. Most kids who hung out with him sang his praises, even the child celebs.
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That's not a very sensible statement.
"Pedos" don't molest every child they come into contact with, and not all molestation victims tell. In fact, I'd venture to say most don't.
Pedophile priests are a good example.
Often they have engaged in illegal acts with minors for decades before some 45-year-old finally reports that Father Timothy diddled him 36 years ago when he was an alter boy at St Rose of Lima.
These priests have often been associated with Catholic schools and athletics for fifty years or more, and had contact with tens of thousands of kids.
But at most, there might be another four, five, or six victims come forward to testify against the pedophile; often, there's only one other, sometimes there are no others, and very rarely are there more than a dozen.
Then there are multitudes of parishioners, former students, and parents of former students who insist that Father Whatever was a living saint, a gentle soul who would never dream of harming a fly.

It means nothing. It's just the way it is.
 
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