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Tobacco

Do you use any for of tobacco?

  • Yes, I do.

    Votes: 27 40.9%
  • No, but I used to regularly.

    Votes: 10 15.2%
  • No, never (or a few times).

    Votes: 29 43.9%

  • Total voters
    66
I do not smoke around people who do not. How am I causing non-smokers to have cancer?

For the rest, is that not true to some extent of almost all sin type products?

You do get a thanks for your post, but that is just to bump up your count.

I agree. There should be a huge fast-food tax so society can avoid obesity and heart-disease. Alcohol needs a huge tax, it contributes to so many potential harms one could only begin, cable tv because it rots the brain of society, .......... there is no end!
 
I do not smoke around people who do not. How am I causing non-smokers to have cancer?

For the rest, is that not true to some extent of almost all sin type products?

You do get a thanks for your post, but that is just to bump up your count.

Who's gonna pay for your cancer?

Maybe in the USA it's different, but here, we have an universal healthcare and everybody is paying for the society. Healthy people pay as much as those who smoke 50 cigarettes a day, and that is not fair since I'm much less likely to have a cancer.

So, to make it fair again, cigarettes should be very expensive.

That way, smokers pay for their cancers, and they are also likely to smoke less.

And I don't say that for cigarettes only, it's the same for alcohol, unhealthy food, polluting cars...every single thing that has a cost to society has to be taxed, so that those who consume these "bad things" are the ones who pay for the consequences of their uncivic behavior.
 
I used to be a chain smoker (about 2 packs a day) and then I quit 3 years ago. Though every rare now and then I'll have a few hits from an electronic cigarette, though they are non-nicotine so I guess that doesn't really count.
 
I don't smoke, I sort of did infrequently back when I was in college until one day I realized how stupid it was and quit cold turkey and never went back. I don't care if anyone else does, so long as they don't do it around me.

As for taxes, I don't support high taxes at all, but if you have to tax something, I really don't mind it being cigarettes, so long as things like alcohol are also equally taxed. Fast food really doesn't make sense, you have to eat to live, you do not have to smoke or drink to live, they're not in the same category at all.
 
The Good Reverend enjoys the finest puros available at appropriate times, Often with a single malt such as the Macallan 18 yr with a splash of branch water..
 
Who's gonna pay for your cancer?

Maybe in the USA it's different, but here, we have an universal healthcare and everybody is paying for the society. Healthy people pay as much as those who smoke 50 cigarettes a day, and that is not fair since I'm much less likely to have a cancer.

So, to make it fair again, cigarettes should be very expensive.

That way, smokers pay for their cancers, and they are also likely to smoke less.

And I don't say that for cigarettes only, it's the same for alcohol, unhealthy food, polluting cars...every single thing that has a cost to society has to be taxed, so that those who consume these "bad things" are the ones who pay for the consequences of their uncivic behavior.

Do the taxes that are collected from cigarettes go directly into the healthcare system, or do they just go into a general fund? I would think its not fair at all either, and in a universal healthcare scenario, you shouldn't be able to smoke or drink, or do any drugs at all. How does it make sense to ban fruit loops, but permit alchohol/cigarettes?
 
Do the taxes that are collected from cigarettes go directly into the healthcare system, or do they just go into a general fund? I would think its not fair at all either, and in a universal healthcare scenario, you shouldn't be able to smoke or drink, or do any drugs at all. How does it make sense to ban fruit loops, but permit alchohol/cigarettes?

In Kentucky it simply goes to the state budget. Though, here in Louisville we still pay much less for cigarettes than most states, at $40per carton.
 
Glenfiddich whiskey 15 year is marvelous as well!



Indeed it is.



But when I am drinking a Speyside I lean towards any of the Balvenie.


We did just recently finish a 1976 reserve Bruichladdich that was a phenomenal Islay....
 
Indeed it is.



But when I am drinking a Speyside I lean towards any of the Balvenie.


We did just recently finish a 1976 reserve Bruichladdich that was a phenomenal Islay....

I have never tried a Islay, though I ahve heard they are very good.
 
I will try to get one this weekend. You know, they raised both the tobacco and alcohol tax here. It is like living in the USSR or something.




meh when you buy the good stuff what the state does is trivial.... ;)


You enjoy a cigar? I tell you the same intriciacies can be found on a good cigar as they can a good whisky.
 
QFT

I love a fine cigar.




Two cigars I must reccommend.

For a treat.

Camacho 11/18


for the everyday consistant smoke, relativley inexpensive.

Any of the CAO Brazillia series.

I handed out the GOL!'s for Aiden's birth..... :mrgreen:


I can't talk either of these enough enough...


I have also been highly fond of the gurhka shaggies.
 
I've had one cigarette. Just experimenting as a teenger, that's all. It gave me a headache.

Although I do admire females who smoke though.

there is a joke about that....men love screwing women who smoke, especially if they cough during intercourse...:2razz:
 
I smoke and think the the taxes are total B.S. :(
 
I smoke and think the the taxes are total B.S. :(


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I drink and smoke...and I've never known a liberal woman who gave a damn.
 
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I drink and smoke...and I've never known a liberal woman who gave a damn.

LOL! I am a liberal female that cares about taxes and all kinds of other things. :2wave:
 
I smoke hookah on a semi-weekly basis, which if I understand correctly is a blend containing 30% tobacco. I use to smoke American Spirits, but they cost a fortune, so now I don't smoke any cigarettes. I don't have cravings for hookah either, it is more of a social thing, way to get some friends together and have a face to face conversation.
 
I used to be a chain smoker (about 2 packs a day) and then I quit 3 years ago. Though every rare now and then I'll have a few hits from an electronic cigarette, though they are non-nicotine so I guess that doesn't really count.

I bought an electronic cigarette and electronic cigar today, the kind with nicotine. Interesting.

Do you think they violate public smoking laws?

I've heard there have been some big arguments in restaurants over them. The customers complaining and manager telling the person to stop or leave, and the person refusing to leave unless then they don't have to pay for the meal. If they pay they get to stay or if they have to leave then why should they pay? The electronic cigarette isn't a cigarette. What do you think?
 
I smoked like a chimney until a month or so ago. I do like a cigar on cigar night at the Closet. I roll some tobacco in a joint as well.
 
My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.























Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill (30 November 1874 – 24 January 1965)
 
I bought an electronic cigarette and electronic cigar today, the kind with nicotine. Interesting.

Do you think they violate public smoking laws?

I've heard there have been some big arguments in restaurants over them. The customers complaining and manager telling the person to stop or leave, and the person refusing to leave unless then they don't have to pay for the meal. If they pay they get to stay or if they have to leave then why should they pay? The electronic cigarette isn't a cigarette. What do you think?




Does it smell? Does smoke come out of it?
 
Do you use any form of tobacco?
Cigarettes, cigars, chew, etc.

I am curious...

I used to smoke. Its been about 3-4 years since my last cigarette.
 
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