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Partisan Junk

What's Your View of Partisan Actions?

  • **** IT UP THE ***!!!

    Votes: 4 36.4%
  • Pretty Bad All Around

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • All Right

    Votes: 3 27.3%
  • Kind of Useful

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • THE BEST THING EVER!!!

    Votes: 3 27.3%

  • Total voters
    11

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I was wondering if everyone out ther hates the Partisan crap as much as me. As much as we all do engage in partisanship ( unavoidable) our Senators are completely embroiled in it, and get nothing done due to it. How about we all just make friends, and stop fighting, and save the damn country before it's too late? And fill in the asterisks with whatever you want ;).
 
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So you think the way to "save the country" is to have senators compromise on things thay may violate thier core principles?
 
So you think the way to "save the country" is to have senators compromise on things thay may violate thier core principles?

No, I think the way to save the country is to open up to more ideas and possibilities. Change from just liking what your party agrees with to what you agree with, regardless of having to stick with what you're told to do. For example, I'm a Democrat, but I'm for a big Army, and gun rights...stuff like that.

Oh, and cutting anything that wastes time, like the lobbyist system, and retarded old people sometimes refered to as "Senators."
 
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No, I think the way to save the country is to open up to more ideas and possibilities. Change from just liking what your party agrees with to what you agree with, regardless of having to stick with what you're told to do. For example, I'm a Democrat, but I'm for a big Army, and gun rights...stuff like that.

I don't think many people are for everything a party promotes. I am a democrat because they most closely match my beliefs, but I do find the occasional thing to bitch about them doing.
 
No, I think the way to save the country is to open up to more ideas and possibilities. Change from just liking what your party agrees with to what you agree with, regardless of having to stick with what you're told to do. For example, I'm a Democrat, but I'm for a big Army, and gun rights...stuff like that.




that's good for you.


I am for small government, Civil rights, and self determination.


If I were a senator, I would not be the guy who would say *yes* to any government expansion. Core values.
 
I don't think many people are for everything a party promotes. I am a democrat because they most closely match my beliefs, but I do find the occasional thing to bitch about them doing.




The Good Reverend also occasionally finds something about the democrats to bitch about. :mrgreen:
 
I don't think many people are for everything a party promotes. I am a democrat because they most closely match my beliefs, but I do find the occasional thing to bitch about them doing.

Yeah, and people tend to get pressured by peers ( Senators pressuring Senators) and bull**** like that. Wasteful stuff.
 
No, I think the way to save the country is to open up to more ideas and possibilities. Change from just liking what your party agrees with to what you agree with, regardless of having to stick with what you're told to do. For example, I'm a Democrat, but I'm for a big Army, and gun rights...stuff like that.

Oh, and cutting anything that wastes time, like the lobbyist system, and retarded old people sometimes refered to as "Senators."

Good point.

I have no problem with politicians having certain principles that they won't change in, but I just wish that they would think about their principles first.

The problems with "partisans" isn't them not sacrificing their principles, but that they won't sacrifice for their party.


That way our politicians wouldn't follow the party line so much, and wouldn't lie to protect other politicians in their party, even when they know whats right.
Because of course, if a politician's core principle is against lying (which I wish all of them would be against) then of course they certainly shouldn't be sacrificing that.
 
I was wondering if everyone out ther hates the Partisan crap as much as me. As much as we all do engage in partisanship ( unavoidable) our Senators are completely embroiled in it, and get nothing done due to it. How about we all just make friends, and stop fighting, and save the damn country before it's too late? And fill in the asterisks with whatever you want ;).

I like it when nothing gets done.

Especially now, when we have a Messiah in office.
 
I like it when nothing gets done.

Especially now, when we have a Messiah in office.

I mean in general, including when your party has majority, and the oval office. I bet you get pissed at the Dem's for trying to block Repub. bills, eh?
 
I mean in general, including when your party has majority, and the oval office. I bet you get pissed at the Dem's for trying to block Repub. bills, eh?

He is an independent though.


Honest.
 
Well, anyhow, I bet when bills are blocked by partisanship, he must be getting annoyed, right?

Not sure if I have ever seen him not annoyed.
 
I'd rather have highly partisan Senators who take stands on every issue than a bunch of panty-waists who only know how to vote "Present". If that slows legislation down, even better.

I'll trust a highly opinionated SOB who draws a line in the sand over the smallest of issues, but I'll never trust the Kerryites who vote for something before voting against it.

Someone who's got a wrong opinion is ten times more useful than someone who has no opinion at all.

It's never fun watching Senators argue, but most times its better than the alternative, which is having them not argue.
 
I mean in general, including when your party has majority, and the oval office. I bet you get pissed at the Dem's for trying to block Repub. bills, eh?
Sometimes. If it's a bill I want passed, damn skippy I get pissed.

But what do you expect? I get just as pissed when another company edges me out on a networking bid. I'm mostly a sore loser at heart; it's one reason I make it a point to keep the times I get outfought, outbid, or outdone as infrequent as possible (and even then I'm pissed when I don't get what I want).
 
There is a difference between being passionate about issues and being partisan. In the former you feel intensely about an issue because of your own morals/values/beliefs/past/etc... In the latter you feel intensely about an issue because it is the position your party has. Personal thinking vs. groupthink.

My feelings about partisanship are pretty well known around the forum. There are few if any who attack it as strongly as I.
 
There is a difference between being passionate about issues and being partisan. In the former you feel intensely about an issue because of your own morals/values/beliefs/past/etc... In the latter you feel intensely about an issue because it is the position your party has. Personal thinking vs. groupthink.

My feelings about partisanship are pretty well known around the forum. There are few if any who attack it as strongly as I.



Well, only conservatives are partisan, so.... :coffeepap


You see what I did there??? ;)
 
I don't like parties because generally my position is "**** the tribe."

Getting libertarians or skeptics to organize is a bit like herding cats. So whats left are people who immediately activate my selective hearing when they start with "the far left" or any of that partisan tripe.

I just cant stand the hypocrisy of people claiming to have values, but change positions the moment power shifts. And feigned outrage REALLY makes me change channels.
 
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I was wondering if everyone out ther hates the Partisan crap as much as me. As much as we all do engage in partisanship ( unavoidable) our Senators are completely embroiled in it, and get nothing done due to it. How about we all just make friends, and stop fighting, and save the damn country before it's too late? And fill in the asterisks with whatever you want ;).

You say that like partisanship is a bad thing, but sure, if the left would simply stand down on every issue, this country would be much better off.
 
I was wondering if everyone out ther hates the Partisan crap as much as me. As much as we all do engage in partisanship ( unavoidable) our Senators are completely embroiled in it, and get nothing done due to it. How about we all just make friends, and stop fighting, and save the damn country before it's too late? And fill in the asterisks with whatever you want ;).

I love observing partisan debates on these forums between Dems and Reps.

I'm not going to get partisanship in UK, Conservatives and Labour are pretty much the same and they suck at it anyway. It's never as entertaining as well
 
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