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Should females be allowed to specialize as infantry in the military?

Should women be allowed to specialize as infantry


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If women can handle the physical rigors of service, of course. I think it would take an exceptional woman to do it, but if they can meet the standard, why not?

As for the feasibility of having women in combat arms branches, I read a book a while back, but I forget the name now. The gist of the book was about Mexican drug cartels somehow starting a war with the United States, but one of the side stories is about how the armed forces were putting women in combat arms roles. They begin the program by putting qualified officers in command as platoon leaders and having them there for a certain amount of time before introducing enlisted females to get the other men in the platoon used to the idea of serving with females. It seems like a good idea to me.
 
You're saying an average grown woman is a physical match for a fit 19 year-old man?

I'm sure some are. But you're saying this as though it's axiomatic.

Delusional feminist crack me up.
 
I never Served with Women, while Overseas. They weren't allowed at the Front...:lol:
Then you've absolutely no basis for your comments regarding whether or not they are poor combat soldiers.

I've NEVER raised my hands against a Woman.:roll: Have you?
This reinforces the fact that you are truly ignorant of the subject then and simply putting forth your personal opinion. For which you have no real experience to draw upon. This is good for all of our readers to know so that they can have a reference point from which to further judge your posts.

I have served with female MP's and police officers for years. During that time I have had to rely upon them for backup in armed confrontations and fist fights. Just like men, you know who you can count on and who you can't. There have been several women that I know that could very easily hurt a man in a fist fight, take them down and kick the **** out of them. Conversely, I have known many men who personify the term "*****" and I wouldn't have them backing me up if they were the last resort because I would feel the need to watch out for them and know full well they couldn't or wouldn't do the same for me. They would be a liability to me.

I have had to fight women in the execution of my job duties. I have also trained with women in mixed martial arts. If you would NEVER raise your hand against a woman then are certainly not what you seem to be holding yourself out to be. Someone like you would get your fellow troops killed because you would refrain from violence against a woman. Why is that? Because they are frail and inferior beings who need protecting? Or is it that you feel they really aren't a threat to a man? I'm curious, warrior.

So, would you really never raise your hand against a woman?

And I've made sure my Wife is a crack shot.
So she is very capable of utilizing a weapon to kill a threat, just like a man.

I don't believe Women belong in a ground pounding War.
Fine.
Unless you're in a "Last Stand" situation,,,neither should you.
Why? You've yet to actually explain a valid reason women should not be utilized to fight where necessary. I mean other than your description that they are weak and very poor in physical combat performance. Neither of which you can actually back up with any honest argument.
 
Then you've absolutely no basis for your comments regarding whether or not they are poor combat soldiers.

Other than Common Sense, no Lerst. We never tried to ladden down a Woman with all the gear and ammo, 60-80+ pounds she'd need to make a standard Patrol,,,ask her to march thru miles of jungle terrain,,,and back to Base. In fact, I never even thought about trying it.:lol:

This reinforces the fact that you are truly ignorant of the subject then and simply putting forth your personal opinion. For which you have no real experience to draw upon. This is good for all of our readers to know so that they can have a reference point from which to further judge your posts.

Yes Lerxst,,,it's my Personal Opinion. I'm sure all "Our Readers" are aware of that.:lol:

I have served with female MP's and police officers for years. During that time I have had to rely upon them for backup in armed confrontations and fist fights. Just like men, you know who you can count on and who you can't. There have been several women that I know that could very easily hurt a man in a fist fight, take them down and kick the **** out of them. Conversely, I have known many men who personify the term "*****" and I wouldn't have them backing me up if they were the last resort because I would feel the need to watch out for them and know full well they couldn't or wouldn't do the same for me. They would be a liability to me.

I have had to fight women in the execution of my job duties. I have also trained with women in mixed martial arts. If you would NEVER raise your hand against a woman then are certainly not what you seem to be holding yourself out to be. Someone like you would get your fellow troops killed because you would refrain from violence against a woman. Why is that? Because they are frail and inferior beings who need protecting? Or is it that you feel they really aren't a threat to a man? I'm curious, warrior.

So, would you really never raise your hand against a woman?

So far Lerxst,,,I've managed to avoid hitting a Woman. With any luck,,,I won't have to. And no, if the situation called for it, I'd take down a Woman to defend myself and Family. I'm no longer in the Service.

She is very capable of utilizing a weapon to kill a threat, just like a man.


Fine.

Why? You've yet to actually explain a valid reason women should not be utilized to fight where necessary. I mean other than your description that they are weak and very poor in physical combat performance. Neither of which you can actually back up with any honest argument.

You mean,,,a valid reason that YOU find acceptable Lerxst. :lol: That's not of my concern.:2wave:
 
You mean,,,a valid reason that YOU find acceptable Lerxst. :lol: That's not of my concern.:2wave:

I have been very clear in what I am seeking. You've not provided a valid reason period. You've also failed to actually answer my questions.

Why is that I wonder?
 
No one is suggesting that every woman, or even most women, are capable of being infantry. Nor is every, or even most men. However, those who can should be allowed.

As long as they're placed in all female units.
 
I agree with Redress. The only thing I have heard over and over again on this forum is that women can't physically carry 80 pounds on their backs for long distances.

But, it's not all that's been said.
 
How come there wasn't a choice for an all female infantry? :mrgreen:
 
How come there wasn't a choice for an all female infantry? :mrgreen:
Poll option no. #2: "Yes, but keep their units separate from male units".
 
I have been very clear in what I am seeking. You've not provided a valid reason period. You've also failed to actually answer my questions.

Why is that I wonder?

So far you've stated that you've hit Women. (In the Line of Duty), so you say. I haven't...You've trained with Women in the Martial Arts. I haven't. You want Women to be placed in Hand to Hand Combat with Men. I don't.

99.9.% of the Women I know will tell you to bugger off Lerxst. :lol: There's no "wondering" about that fact Lex.:)

Take care.
 
Should women be allowed for trying out in the special forces? No. why? because most women who join the military are ugly as hell, and if a women who makes it through SF training, well can you only imagine what the hell she looks like?!
 
Should women be allowed for trying out in the special forces? No. why? because most women who join the military are ugly as hell, and if a women who makes it through SF training, well can you only imagine what the hell she looks like?!

Pelosi?:roll: Sorry,,,I couldn't help it.:lol:
 
Should women be allowed for trying out in the special forces? No. why? because most women who join the military are ugly as hell, and if a women who makes it through SF training, well can you only imagine what the hell she looks like?![/QUOTE

i think women ought to be in special forces if they are interested enough and qualify. What the women look like has nothing to do with their qualifications.

I am sure there are some ugly men in special forces too.

Being ugly as hell could be a benefit serving in special forces. Why do you think they call them 'special'.

Are they all supposed to look like Demi Moore or Private Benjamin?
 
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Should women be allowed for trying out in the special forces? No. why? because most women who join the military are ugly as hell, and if a women who makes it through SF training, well can you only imagine what the hell she looks like?!

When did the infantry become a special force?
 
Should women be allowed for trying out in the special forces? No. why? because most women who join the military are ugly as hell, and if a women who makes it through SF training, well can you only imagine what the hell she looks like?![/QUOTE

i think women ought to be in special forces if they are interested enough and qualify. What the women look like has nothing to do with their qualifications.

I am sure there are some ugly men in special forces too.

Being ugly as hell could be a benefit serving in special forces. Why do you think they call them 'special'.

Are they all supposed to look like Demi Moore or Private Benjamin?

True (105191197). War is Ugly, to begin with. But let's not antigonize the Enemy with the likes of Rosie O'Donnell right off the bat.:lol: I'd fight to the death to keep something like that OUT of my Country.:2razz:
 
True (105191197). War is Ugly, to begin with. But let's not antigonize the Enemy with the likes of Rosie O'Donnell right off the bat.:lol: I'd fight to the death to keep something like that OUT of my Country.:2razz:

Rosie O' Donnell is an American citizen and a human being.

You'd go to war to kick her out of the US because you don't like her looks?
 
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True (105191197). War is Ugly, to begin with. But let's not antigonize the Enemy with the likes of Rosie O'Donnell right off the bat.:lol: I'd fight to the death to keep something like that OUT of my Country.:2razz:

As much I dislike her approach I would like to have Rosie watching my back on the battlefield. She will kick ass no matter what.
 
Not needed, or nesessary. Just show her face. And her personality.:lol: Nobody would fight for it...:lol:

That's right. We don't want to fight for democracy or anyone unless we like their personality and looks.

Rosie has a big mouth and personality to go along with her looks and big heart. She can probably fight for herself just fine.

I love that about Rosie.
 
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So what I have learned today is that the infantry is the special forces, and Rosie O'Donnell is the type of super fit person that would qualify for infantry duty. The world is a fascinating place.
 
So what I have learned today is that the infantry is the special forces, and Rosie O'Donnell is the type of super fit person that would qualify for infantry duty. The world is a fascinating place.

Really? I've learned that the Liberals out here have "defended" her as their "female" Idol. :lol: Oh yeah,,, that's "Special Forces Material", in a Liberal Mind.:lol:

Get with the Program.:roll:
 
Really? I've learned that the Liberals out here have "defended" her as their "female" Idol. :lol: Oh yeah,,, that's "Special Forces Material", in a Liberal Mind.:lol:

Get with the Program.:roll:

As a liberal, I don't think you will have ever seen me defend her. I also suspect I know more about special forces than you ever will.
 
So what I have learned today is that the infantry is the special forces, and Rosie O'Donnell is the type of super fit person that would qualify for infantry duty. The world is a fascinating place.

The world here is a wonderful place where posters can make up conclusions regardless of what posters say.

No one is saying Rosie is super fit for special forces. We do say she has hutzpah and can fight her own battles.

Rosie is a tough broad with a big heart and a funny entertainer. I thought she was a hoot in the Flintstones.
 
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