• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Should weed be legalized?

Should weed be legalized in the US?

  • Weed should be legalized for those whose religious beliefs dictate otherwise (like Rasta's).

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    56
It is the UK drug scheduling. I think it would correlate with the US' schedule III, basically possession of a class C drug is a fine or warning based on officer's discretion.

The numbers say otherwise. Caucasian youths are statistically speaking FAR more likely to use illegal drugs than their minority peers, but minorities are arrested at rates twice to three times their numbers for drug offenses. Let's face it, police do not patrol the suburbs like they do the inner city, and if they did hit the burbs as hard as they do to the inner city, the drug war would over in a few decades.

I've patrolled both, and the situations in which you can find drug offenders are vastly different.

Its not like there is a radar that says "BEEP BEEP WHITE TEENS USING MARIJUANA OVER HERE BEEP" an you get to decide whether or not to go find them.

White kids using pot in the safety of their own backyards where no crime trends have been occurring and nobody has called for police assistance in the area for any reason, chances are they are going to get away with it. (Which is fine by me).

When a group of black kids in the inner city are hanging out at the basketball court in their neighborhood where police get a high number of calls for service due to gang related activity in the area, they are at a higher risk of getting caught because the police are going to have a tighter patrol of that neighborhood so that they can be close by when the next call comes in. This is what we call a "hot spot".

This is very simple to understand if the reader is TRYING to understand it instead of trying to find a way to poke holes in the scenario to prove some assumption based off of crime statistics.

Generally speaking, your are at a higher risk of getting caught when doing something if you are hanging out in an area where police frequently get calls for service for crime related activity than you are if you are hanging out in an area that is GENERALLY problem free.

Unfortunately, the fact that minorities typically live in these areas is not controllable by law enforcement. Whether one wants to assert that opinion or not.
 
^ I should be more specific, when I say the drug war would be over, I do not mean it is won. For it is an unwinnable war. It would end because when the sons and daughters of judges, mayors, governors, senators, police chiefs and other affluent members of society, get popped for minor drug violations, their parents will lobby for ending the war.

Thats possible.

Also we will get closer and closer to the end of the drug war as more generations that grew up when the use of drugs was more of a part of "fitting in" with society get closer to the age of governing.
 
Except you didn't bring up anything, other than another thread. If you want to ask me about other drugs, then ask me, don't ask if I'm participating in another thread. However, don't expect to ask me a question and me answer it when you wont' even asnwer mine.

I am just wondering if your one of those all drugs should be legal for recreational use individuals or are you the only certian drugs should be legal for recreational use individuals. If your in the crowd that says only certain drugs should be legal for recreational use then it seems hypocritical to harp on me for not suggesting that alcohol should be illegal.

If those things you stated are your reason for keeping marijuana illegal, why to are you not calling for alcohol to become illegal because it fits the exact same criteria.

Simple alcohol is already legal and we shouldn't add more problems by legalizing more things for recreational drug use. If you want a buzz, booze is legal.
 
Simple alcohol is already legal and we shouldn't add more problems by legalizing more things for recreational drug use. If you want a buzz, booze is legal.
What if you want deep introspection, the kind offered by the likes of Psilocybin and LSD? A buzz is boring, it does not really accomplish anything. Escapism at it's finest. I personally enjoy accessing the deepest reaches of my mind. I use psychedelics as a tool to aid in this process. How am I a danger to society?
 
I personally enjoy accessing the deepest reaches of my mind. I use psychedelics as a tool to aid in this process. How am I a danger to society?
You might go off and start committing crimes!!1!11eleven
 
Legalizing is not adding more problems.

I love this argument,

"OMG, we don't want a drug that is otherwise available to anyone that has $5-10 regardless of their age to be kept behind the counter of stores and sold only to adults."

Self-refuting at its finest.
 
You might go off and start committing crimes!!1!11eleven

You're more likely to go off and start comitting crimes if you're on a prozac/ ritalin / other similar drug than you ever would smoking pot. If a person is violent and on pot then he would be just as violent without it... if not more so.

George washington grew 'hemp'.... and if I'm not mistaken the founding documents are written on hemp paper?
 
You're more likely to go off and start comitting crimes if you're on a prozac/ ritalin / other similar drug than you ever would smoking pot. If a person is violent and on pot then he would be just as violent without it... if not more so.
I haven't heard that about prozac and ritalin. I haven't heard of any drug compelling otherwise law-abiding people to commit crimes, violent or otherwise. Sure I've seen plenty of people who "can't hold their liquor" become beligerent and unruly, and other drugs may have similar effects on some people, but the problem lies with those individuals, it's not an inherent property of the drug itself. At least, not that any standardized medical study has been able to determine.
 
I am just wondering if your one of those all drugs should be legal for recreational use individuals or are you the only certian drugs should be legal for recreational use individuals. If your in the crowd that says only certain drugs should be legal for recreational use then it seems hypocritical to harp on me for not suggesting that alcohol should be illegal.

Not hypocritical at all. All the issues you labeled in this forum for Legalizing Weed are issues directly coorelating with Alcohol. However, with "harder" drugs than marijuana, there are ADDITIONAL issues that superceed the issues caused by both Alcohol and Weed and thus put them in my mind on a different level.

For example, the long term and relatively quick mental damage and the extremely high physical addicting quality of some harder drugs are simply not shared with either alcohol or marijuana.

Simple alcohol is already legal and we shouldn't add more problems by legalizing more things for recreational drug use. If you want a buzz, booze is legal.

So what if its already legal? If you don't want to add "more" problems by legalizing recreational marijuana than why aren't you in favor of REMOVING problems by making alcohol illegal? Additionally, where are ANY facts from you that somehow there will actually be MORE problem. Is there somehow some kind of proof that legions of people who don't drink alcohol to the point that it causes these same problems are the only ones smoking weed?

What if the net increase of problems is relatively small adding weed to the mix, but the net decrease of the things you say are "problems" if you ban alcohol is relatively large...which is the more likely case I would imagine. Why would you not be calling for the banning of alcohol

The reason is simple.

You, first off, don't give a damn about conservative values as a whole but just care about it when it fits your purpose. Second off, I'm going to guess you like your alcohol and see no reason you should give it up? Third, you don't smoke or have no urge to smoke and have a severe dislike and prejudice against those that do or would. Note, none of these are legitimate reasons.

The only one being hypocritical here is you, who gives bull**** reasons initially for why you want something to remain illegal while ignoring that if those are ACTUALLY your concerns you would have a LARGER effect of reducing the cases of those things by banning alcohol than by keeping pot illegal.
 
Back
Top Bottom