The Party of No

I see where Mitt Romney and other liberal Republicans who just don't "get it" are afraid that the mass media, or even worse, the Democrats, might view them as obstructing the dominant party's socialist anti-American, anti-freedom agenda.

Well, why the hell shouldn't real American stand opposed to those policies that have proven to be wrong, expensive, failed, and harmful?

The Republicans should embrace The Party of No. They should say "NO" most vociferously to:

Any and every tax increase.

Any and every unconstitutional spending increase.

Any and every unconstitutional program.

Any and every attempt to nationalize health care.

Any and every attempt to prevent domestic oil drilling.

Any and all attempts to decriminalize the invasion of the United States by Mexico.

Any and all attempts to coddling dictators.

Any and all Liberal and anti-American judicial appointments.

Any and all unfunded mandates.

Any and all attempts to apologize to any other nation for anything in our past, since compared to them our history is spotless.

Any and all attempts to curtail or otherwise infringe on our Constitutional freedoms, including expected new efforts at media censorship from the left, the expected new assualts on gun ownership freedoms, etc.

And say "no" to practically any the Democrats do, because they're Democrats, and they wouldn't be Democrats if they weren't wrong almost all the time on almost everything under the sun.

I"m all for the new Party of No.

So, do you support the liberal Republican's efforts to avoid saying "no"< or do you think the word "no" is a wonderful word that isn't heard often enough in the halls of Congress?

You're like... the HelloDollyLlama of the Republican Party....

The Theological Declaration of Barmen

Saying "Yes" and saying "no" in just measure are the marks of the moral man.

There is no sin in saying "no".

Scarecrow Akhbar said:

And say "no" to practically any the Democrats do, because they're Democrats, and they wouldn't be Democrats if they weren't wrong almost all the time on almost everything under the sun.

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this is why the republicans are screwed right now.

FallingPianos said:

this is why the republicans are screwed right now.

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This man does not represent my party :3oops:

Dav said:

You're like... the HelloDollyLlama of the Republican Party....

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Ouch, thats pretty harsh.

The problem is that the republicans are being perceived as saying "no" to anything the democrats propose, just because it's a democratic proposal, and not offering up real alternatives. How exactly true this perception is, it's hard to say...it's entirely probable that alot more is happening than is being reported since it is not exciting(or blame it on "liberal media bias" if you choose).

I forget who it was, but I remember during the stimulus "debate", on republican senator standing up with the bill in hand, talking about the length and how no one had read the whole thing, but they where having to vote on it. That was effective, and the republicans need to do more of that to get away from the "party of no" negative image.

I won't judge the republicans for saying no, as it sorely needed in many cases. However, the republicans need to focus on issues that are important. Obama gets so many pointless attacks on him that real criticisms get lost in the noise. Getting up in arms over him bowing to some other leader means that its less likely that people will notice him trying to bring back the assault weapons ban.

The other issue is that republicans need to offer alternatives. The stimulus bill was pretty terrible, but the republicans didn't offer a better option. Getting the public behind doing nothing is much harder than getting support for a differing approach.

I want my goverment to keep the peace and shutup. That is it
How much does that cost? Activity in congress is very scary.

rathi said:

I won't judge the republicans for saying no, as it sorely needed in many cases. However, the republicans need to focus on issues that are important. Obama gets so many pointless attacks on him that real criticisms get lost in the noise. Getting up in arms over him bowing to some other leader means that its less likely that people will notice him trying to bring back the assault weapons ban.

The other issue is that republicans need to offer alternatives. The stimulus bill was pretty terrible, but the republicans didn't offer a better option. Getting the public behind doing nothing is much harder than getting support for a differing approach.

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Why? Nothing they offer is even allowed to be considered and the MSM doesn't cover it so what's the point?

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Scarecrow. Do you work in any kind of public relations? If yes then you should quit. Right now. The Republican promotional machine as good as it at creating catch words like 'Homeland Security' and 'Heartland', will NEVER want itself being called the party of 'No'. Because Americans do not like the word 'no'. Can I max out my credit cards? Yes. Can I buy whatever I want? Yes. Can I say whatever I want? Yes. Even Rove would have a hard time spinning 'No' into anything but 'No'.

Redress said:

The problem is that the republicans are being perceived as saying "no" to anything the democrats propose, just because it's a democratic proposal, and not offering up real alternatives.

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This is what I dislike about modern political dialogue - this idea that anytime a problem arises the Federal government must "do something" to fix it. God forbid private citizens resolve something on their own. It's obvious we're incapable of such, so forfeit your right to self-determination and repeat the mantra:

Our beloved government cannot fail. The fault must lie entirely within ourselves, so we must invite the omnipotent bureaucracy to oversee more of our affairs lest we stray from under the nanny’s skirt. We are naughty children who require the apt attention and supervision of a loving babysitter. Protect us from danger and keep us cozy in our large playpen so that we can concentrate on our toys. The bureaucrats will stop the pain, keep us safe; without them, we are helpless.

akyron said:

I want my goverment to keep the peace and shutup. That is it
How much does that cost? Activity in congress is very scary.

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Really? You don't think the BCS hearing are critically important to the affairs of our nation?

TOJ said:

Why? Nothing they offer is even allowed to be considered and the MSM doesn't cover it so what's the point?

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The point is the republicans do offer alternatives. Dear Leader's propaganda partners at CNN and the New York Times ignore them and then claim that no alternatives are offered. In the real world that would be called a lie, but in Dear Leader's liberal la-la land, it is called objective reporting.

Ethereal said:

This is what I dislike about modern political dialogue - this idea that anytime a problem arises the Federal government must "do something" to fix it. God forbid private citizens resolve something on their own...[/I]

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The republicans are not saying this either though.

celticlord said:

The point is the republicans do offer alternatives. Dear Leader's propaganda partners at CNN and the New York Times ignore them and then claim that no alternatives are offered. In the real world that would be called a lie, but in Dear Leader's liberal la-la land, it is called objective reporting.

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Ah, I see. It's a conspiracy by the man to hold down the little guys...

Redress said:

Ah, I see. It's a conspiracy by the man to hold down the little guys...

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Not so much a conspiracy as the abandonment of all objectivity by the media and of logic by liberals.

Both groups proceed from a reliance upon orthodoxy that cuts off all reasoned discourse and substantive debate--the liberal position is deemed correct in all particulars by default, even when it flies in the face of experience and is internally contradictory to the point of incoherence.

Not a conspiracy, just an epidemic of sloppy thinking. As the saying goes, never assume malice when stupidity will suffice. As Dear Leader has proven daily since his inauguration, stupidity is the order of the day for liberals.

FallingPianos said:

this is why the republicans are screwed right now.

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Yes, they refuse the basic truth that the Democrats are ****ed in the head. They keep pretending the Democrats are any but what they are, power hungry corrupt elitist authoritarians.

Dav said:

This man does not represent my party :3oops:

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No. If you're a Republican, this is true.

I'm an American.

Redress said:

The problem is that the republicans are being perceived as saying "no" to anything the democrats propose, just because it's a democratic proposal, and not offering up real alternatives.

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The spoiled child reaches drops his marshmallow into the fire.

Why shouldn't the mother say "no"?

Saying no is the correct thing to do.

Since the Democrats don't do anything that turns out well, just knowing it's Democrat that proposes it is sufficient for a "no" by any sane person.

celticlord said:

Not so much a conspiracy as the abandonment of all objectivity by the media and of logic by liberals.

Both groups proceed from a reliance upon orthodoxy that cuts off all reasoned discourse and substantive debate--the liberal position is deemed correct in all particulars by default, even when it flies in the face of experience and is internally contradictory to the point of incoherence.

Not a conspiracy, just an epidemic of sloppy thinking. As the saying goes, never assume malice when stupidity will suffice. As Dear Leader has proven daily since his inauguration, stupidity is the order of the day for liberals.

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And yet, I remember that liberal media reporting at least one very effective attack that the republicans made, and mentioned in my earlier post. In fact, they showed the same footage again when it was discovered that protections for bonuses was buried in the stimulus bill, and was again effective. The argument was so effective both times that it swayed me, a card carrying democrat.

The problem is that a fair number of republicans insist on saying outrageous and/or dumb comments, which are much more likely to get reported on than any congressional debate. The same thing happened to an extent to democrats during the early part of the Bush administration, when the democratic party was at it's low point. If you run a network who's primary job is to attain ratings, which story are you going to cover...some boring, technical debate over the best way to stimulate the economy. or the Texas governor suggesting succession? Which story is going to draw ratings, and increase revenue for the station?

Basically, you guys on the right have to stop attacking each other, and making foolish comments(my fav, the recent where a republican commented on the last 2 swine flue outbreaks have been under democratic administrations), get a platform, and broadcast it in nice, clear terms, with no self induced distractions.

Scarecrow Akhbar said:

The spoiled child reaches drops his marshmallow into the fire.

Why shouldn't the mother say "no"?

Saying no is the correct thing to do.

Since the Democrats don't do anything that turns out well, just knowing it's Democrat that proposes it is sufficient for a "no" by any sane person.

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This is a great example of why the republicans are perceived as just "the party of no". It explains nothing about why you oppose anything, and just comes off as spiteful.

Redress said:

This is a great example of why the republicans are perceived as just "the party of no". It explains nothing about why you oppose anything, and just comes off as spiteful.

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You mean, because I gave an effective counter-example?

To pick two related items, the Republicans should say categorically "no" to all tax increases and all unconstitutional spending. Please note, I did not say "spending increases".

They should explain their opposition, but stand by their opposition without any gobbledy-gook about maybe cooperating if some little details are changed.

No unconstitutional spending, and no new taxes.

That's how the national economy will be revived.

The biggest problem with politics today is the lack of opposition to the party in power. During the 90's, the congress/president split gave a reasonable division of power and things were much better. Nowadays we keep getting single party rule. The democrats were simply too spineless to ever stand up to Bush. The republicans have marginalized themselves to uselessness from mindless attacks and have pretty much lost the filibuster. Our constitution divided power for a reason, it is not healthy for 1 party to continually run the whole show.

Scarecrow Akhbar said:

You mean, because I gave an effective counter-example?

To pick two related items, the Republicans should say categorically "no" to all tax increases and all unconstitutional spending. Please note, I did not say "spending increases".

They should explain their opposition, but stand by their opposition without any gobbledy-gook about maybe cooperating if some little details are changed.

No unconstitutional spending, and no new taxes.

That's how the national economy will be revived.

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In the post I replied to, you offered no examples, you just said "Since the Democrats don't do anything that turns out well, just knowing it's Democrat that proposes it is sufficient for a "no" by any sane person".