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How Will The US End?

How Will The US End?

  • Conquered by a foreign force

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Dissolve by internal forces

    Votes: 11 45.8%
  • End of the human race

    Votes: 3 12.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 10 41.7%

  • Total voters
    24

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I've been reading a lot of history lately, especially Byzantine history, which has fascinated me, especially how you have this thousand-year empire that eventually just couldn't take any more.

It's made me wonder... how do you think the United States will end as a distinct political entity?
 
Either a meteor strike or a supervolcano. I don't think we'll be conquered or conquer ourselves to the point of end ourselves.
 
The states will secede and go their separate ways.

But not for quite some time. I dare say we will yet see the American Tricentennial.
 
The United States will end up divided. We will end up breaking ourselves down into strict political categories and isolate each set of people. Eventually it will not be the "United" states of America, but just another continent with too many countries for its own good.

In short, we will become Africa.
 
My prediction is a massive and unexpected strike from a country that pretends to befriend us to appease us until its aggression against us.....China

many factors in history and present lead me to believe this is very likely
 
I imagine in the future the world will be divided up into fewer territories, regions, etc. International law will trump laws across all lands and sovereignty will become less and less an issue. That's why westernizing everyone now while we can is a lofty but admirable goal. :mrgreen:
 
I imagine in the future the world will be divided up into fewer territories, regions, etc. International law will trump laws across all lands and sovereignty will become less and less an issue. That's why westernizing everyone now while we can is a lofty but admirable goal. :mrgreen:

This is one of the many factors that lead me to my prediction above...
 
Isn't it obvious?

spanish_inquisition.jpg


They'll get us all in the end.
 
Conquered by a foreign force

Highly unlikely. We have two oceans separating us from the rest of the world. The two countries on our border are either too poor or too sparsely populated to compete with us economically. And no country is going to be able to conquer us if their GDP isn't at least on par with ours. Maybe 500 years from now, Mexico will be the wealthiest nation on earth and Canada will be overpopulated...but I would highly doubt that the US lasts that long.

Dissolve by internal forces

Not anytime soon. I suppose that eventually one region of the country could feel disaffected...but the trend is for the federal government to get stronger, not weaker. I think that makes this scenario less likely.

End of the human race

This seems fairly likely to me, if we're talking about a sudden end to the US.


I think the MOST likely end to the US is no definitive end at all...but rather an evolution into something else. Maybe NAFTA will become a FTAA, which will become an American Union, which will become a United States of The Americas. Or something like that.
 
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I imagine in the future the world will be divided up into fewer territories, regions, etc. International law will trump laws across all lands and sovereignty will become less and less an issue. That's why westernizing everyone now while we can is a lofty but admirable goal. :mrgreen:

That depends if you consider that outcome a good thing. I sure as hell don't. I don't want world gov't.

The United States will end up divided. We will end up breaking ourselves down into strict political categories and isolate each set of people. Eventually it will not be the "United" states of America, but just another continent with too many countries for its own good.
That is a matter of opinion.
 
The psychology behind bringing this up is . . . fascinating to me.
 
Being it's earth day and all I'm surprised none of the poll options is: Mother earth will die because you bastards refused to bike to work.
 
Highly unlikely. We have two oceans separating us from the rest of the world.

Get real...China is going to pass us up like we are standing still economically and in turn militarily too...

and they're going to do it with 90% of their country tied behind their back...
 
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Get real...China is going to pass us up like we are standing still economically and in turn militarily too...

and they're going to do it with 90% of their country tide behind their back...

China's birth rate is declining. Its population is only growing 0.66% per year. That's not particularly fast, even compared to a lot of Western countries including the United States. Granted, China has a lot more people to begin with, which brings me to my second point...

If you look at China's age structure, it becomes apparent that China is going to get old before it gets wealthy. This poses another demographic challenge. These two problems - economic growth that will eventually level off, and population growth that will eventually level off and begin to decline - make it unlikely that China's GDP will surpass the United States' anytime soon.

Maybe some day it will happen. But that is a LONG way off, and there are all kinds of trends that could change in the meantime. As for military spending, China has never really shown a great deal of interest in the outside world, compared to other large states. Even if China ramps up its military spending as its economy grows, that doesn't guarantee that A) it will be an enemy of the United States, and B) that said military will destroy the United States.

There are many ways in which the United States could end that are both more likely and in the nearer future.
 
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China's birth rate is declining. Its population is only growing 0.66% per year. That's not particularly fast, even compared to a lot of Western countries including the United States. Granted, China has a lot more people to begin with, which brings me to my second point...

If you look at China's age structure, it becomes apparent that China is going to get old before it gets wealthy. This poses another demographic challenge. These two problems - economic growth that will eventually level off, and population growth that will eventually level off and begin to decline - make it unlikely that China's GDP will surpass the United States' anytime soon.

Maybe some day it will happen. But that is a LONG way off, and there are all kinds of trends that could change in the meantime. As for military spending, China has never really shown a great deal of interest in the outside world, compared to other large states. Even if China ramps up its military spending as its economy grows, that doesn't guarantee that A) it will be an enemy of the United States, and B) that said military will destroy the United States.

There are many ways in which the United States could end that are both more likely and in the nearer future.

I guess time will tell...

as for now the trends and patterns head toward China being stronger than the U.S. within 30yrs.

As far as starting a war goes, chances are the next major war against us will be well hidden in the makings. They know the best way to defeat us is to decieve us about standing relations right up to the moment. There are just too many reasons that China has personally against us in terms of us sticking our nose in their personal business.
 
The last act of the United States will be the war with the rebel nations who refuse to join our new United Federation, which becomes this system's 1st solar superpower.
 
The last act of the United States will be the war with the rebel nations who refuse to join our new United Federation, which becomes this system's 1st solar superpower.

Too much Babylon 5 eh?

That's virtually identical to how the Earth Alliance came about. A bunch of countries banded together, annihilated every country that refused to join with the exception of Australia (which joined later) and formed the first world government.
 
Never watched it, thats the backstory of Joss Whedon's Firefly, only I left out China's part.
 
Being it's earth day and all I'm surprised none of the poll options is: Mother earth will die because you bastards refused to bike to work.
To hasten her end, on Earth Day, I drove my very, very, very thirsty V-8 muscle car to work.
 
I've been reading a lot of history lately, especially Byzantine history, which has fascinated me, especially how you have this thousand-year empire that eventually just couldn't take any more.

It's made me wonder... how do you think the United States will end as a distinct political entity?

Proletarian revolution.:)
 
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