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Public Schools and the Constitution

What documents did you learn about in your experience in a US Public School?

  • Federalist Papers

    Votes: 13 37.1%

  • Declaration of Independance

    Votes: 31 88.6%

  • Bill of Rights

    Votes: 35 100.0%

  • Remainder of the Constitution

    Votes: 29 82.9%

  • Articles of Confederation

    Votes: 18 51.4%
  • Total voters
    35
All of them were touched on at least in some fashiong in my schooling for me. Small town outside the only real main city in Southwest Virginia.

(I LOLed at the Peoples Republic of NOVA)
 
I learned about all of them, and honestly I can't believe more people haven't learned about the fed. papers and the articles of confed, since it was the fed papers that really brought us back from very divided and nearly chaotic times.
 
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Cilogy said:
I learned about all of them, and honestly I can't believe more people haven't learned about the fed. papers and the articles of confed, since it was the fed papers that really brought us back from very divided and nearly chaotic times.
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The public fool system spends an inordinate amount of time telling the little students about their precious "rights".

The public fool system spends little time explaining in detail the heart of the Constitution, which is Article 1, Section 8. That's the part that says what the federal government is actually allowed to do. Know what's not in Art 1, Section 8? There's not one word authorizing federal spending on public education. Know what that means? Federal funding for public education is unconstitutional.

So the public schools don't teach the Constitution too carefully.
 
I can hardly remember: Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights, and Remainder of the Constitution. I have researched the Federalists Papers and Articles of Confederation on my own.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
The public fool system spends an inordinate amount of time telling the little students about their precious "rights".

The public fool system spends little time explaining in detail the heart of the Constitution, which is Article 1, Section 8. That's the part that says what the federal government is actually allowed to do. Know what's not in Art 1, Section 8? There's not one word authorizing federal spending on public education. Know what that means? Federal funding for public education is unconstitutional.

So the public schools don't teach the Constitution too carefully.
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Ok, thanks for the history lesson.
 
If one analyzes the true purpose of government (to protect individual liberty) he should understand that public -- i.e. socialist -- education is in itself UN-Constitutional.
 
ronpaulvoter said:
If one analyzes the true purpose of government (to protect individual liberty) he should understand that public -- i.e. socialist -- education is in itself UN-Constitutional.
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I can't think of anything that's going to insure more individual liberty than an education.

Some things like education and health care can't avoid being socialist. If we won't allow kids to be stupid or sick people to just die then we must be socialist about it.
 
sazerac said:
I can't think of anything that's going to insure more individual liberty than an education.

Some things like education and health care can't avoid being socialist. If we won't allow kids to be stupid or sick people to just die then we must be socialist about it.
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Your first paragraph is true. Education is very important. It is TOO important to be run by government. It is the PARENTS' responsibility to educate their children -- NOT the government or other people.

What do you mean "education and health care can't avoid being socialist?" Of course they can. And they MUST if we are to remain a free nation. There are plenty of private entities that can help those in need.
 
sazerac said:
I can't think of anything that's going to insure more individual liberty than an education.

Some things like education and health care can't avoid being socialist. If we won't allow kids to be stupid or sick people to just die then we must be socialist about it.
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Sick people die all the time.

Ignorant people still get public school diplomas.

That being the case, what's the point in public health or public education, since both violate the Constitution?
 
ronpaulvoter said:
Your first paragraph is true. Education is very important. It is TOO important to be run by government. It is the PARENTS' responsibility to educate their children -- NOT the government or other people.

What do you mean "education and health care can't avoid being socialist?" Of course they can. And they MUST if we are to remain a free nation. There are plenty of private entities that can help those in need.
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We don't allow people to just die. We never have. We let them go out of business. We let them become drug addicts. We let them sleep in doorways. But we don't let them just die from illness or injury.

Humans are a social animals. It's just a fact.
 
If I recall correctly, we went over the Declaration, and Bill of Rights in depth, but as far as the remainder of the constitution, we briefly hit up certain aspects of it but never got in depth with the whole thing.

The other options may have been briefly mentioned, but I never recall studying them in depth. I think in the AP US History classes they went into those things, because I remember helping this girl I wanted to get with, with her homework even though I wasn't in AP classes. I was monumentally lazy in High School.
 
Declaration of Independance
Bill of Rights
Articles of Confederation

Don't ask me why it is in the UK curriculum ... and Native Americans and slavery :mrgreen:
 
Goobieman said:
They are also not easy for younger people to read.
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You have to get use to reading the language and grammar difference, similar to learning to read the KJV bible.
 
All of them, though it was incumbent on us to pursue the bulk of the Federalist Papers ourselves, and the Articles of Confederation were summarized similarly. I went to grade school right down the road from Intransigent Atheist.

To this day I have copies of all in my home, prominently kept.
 
sazerac said:
I can't think of anything that's going to insure more individual liberty than an education.

Some things like education and health care can't avoid being socialist. If we won't allow kids to be stupid or sick people to just die then we must be socialist about it.
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You have to understand the difference between positive and negative liberties.
 
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