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Obama Announces Massive, Crushing Tax Hikes

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Thats why there should be flat taxes. Everyone should pay the same %, while the total tax burden should go up to afford your expenditures, while at the same time expenditures would have to be decreased to avoid average flat tax of monstrous levels.

That's politically impossible, financially impractical, and a recipe for poverty if it ever happened.
 
That's politically impossible, financially impractical, and a recipe for poverty if it ever happened.

Isnt America supposed to be about giving everyone the same chance on EQUAL terms?

This is not a debate I want to go into on this thread. We had an interesting discussion about this(flat tax) in another thread in the economy section.
 
Isnt America supposed to be about giving everyone the same chance on EQUAL terms?

Structuring a tax code around "equality" is ridiculous and impossible. If that were the case, everyone would pay exactly the same dollar amount in taxes. That's just flat-out stupid, because some people don't even make that much in a year or they'd just barely come out ahead. This would cause poverty, which would cause more crime, disease, and ignorance.
 
Structuring a tax code around "equality" is ridiculous and impossible. If that were the case, everyone would pay exactly the same dollar amount in taxes. That's just flat-out stupid, because some people don't even make that much in a year or they'd just barely come out ahead. This would cause poverty, which would cause more crime, disease, and ignorance.

No, no, no... %%%%%%%.. Not same dollar. Same cent per dollar.
 
No, no, no... %%%%%%%.. Not same dollar. Same cent per dollar.

If you're going to make some absurd philosophical case that the tax code should be based on "equality" rather than economic prudence, then at least be consistent.

You aren't REALLY in favor of equality, because the wealthy still pay more taxes than the poor even under a flat tax. The only truly equal system would be where everyone pays the same dollar amount.

So since we've dispensed with the illusion that you care about equality, let's move on to the next question: What tax system makes the most economic sense? A progressive tax makes much more sense than a flat tax, as it reduces poverty without the need for big government programs and overregulation of the market.
 
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If you're going to make some absurd philosophical case that the tax code should be based on "equality" rather than economic prudence, then at least be consistent.

You aren't REALLY in favor of equality, because the wealthy still pay more taxes than the poor even under a flat tax. The only truly equal system would be where everyone pays the same dollar amount.

So since we've dispensed with the illusion that you care about equality, let's move on to the next question: What tax system makes the most economic sense? A progressive tax makes much more sense than a flat tax, as it reduces poverty without the need for big government programs and overregulation of the market.


Why should you pay more per cent earned if you make $1 million than when you make $250.000.. Even almost 10-20% more.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/economics/41672-flat-tax-8.html
 
The tax cuts were never permanent to begin with. That's why they have an expiration built in. Get it now? Good. :2wave:

In all honesty, throughout the history of this country, the right has made decisions that have negatively impacted the common citizen so that business men could get wealthy.

The left has often been forced to raise taxes to pay for the damage done to the economy and John Q. Public by the right.

Now it's time for business to get back what they gave over the last eight years... and guess what? Big business is whining about it.

The were happy to rape the common citizen but they are not so willing to be bent over the table.

Sounds like big business is going from bull to bitch and they aren't happy about it.

Too bad.

Somebody call them a Waaaaaaahhhmbulance.

:shock:
 
You know what Vader? You may in fact be the biggest enigma on this site. Sometimes you sound like an out of control conservative, and sometimes like a bleeding heart liberal. You're confusing...but I suspect you like it that way. :mrgreen:
 
Oh, and I apologize, but I can't resist.


MASSIVE. CRUSHING. :lamo:lamo:lamo
 
You know what Vader? You may in fact be the biggest enigma on this site. Sometimes you sound like an out of control conservative, and sometimes like a bleeding heart liberal. You're confusing...but I suspect you like it that way. :mrgreen:

Yeah well ... I figure I have the same chance of getting a mod spot as Saddam Hussien's rotting corpse ... with this knowledge I figure I have no other choice but to remain enigmatic.

It's like having the keys to a wrecked junk-yard car. It's diet-mod --- same great taste --- none of the power!

:)
 
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Yeah well ... I figure I have the same chance of getting a mod spot as Saddam Hussien's rotting corpse ... with this knowledge I figure I have no other choice but to remain enigmatic.

It's like having the keys to a wrecked junk-yard car. It's diet-mod --- same great taste --- none of the power!

:)

One thing for sure. You are a DP original. :cool:
 
nope, I am in the 650-1.2m category. incometax is oppressive because it allows congress to pit net tax consumers against net tax payers. I pay half of my income to taxes. That is slavery.

Your tax planner must really be incompetent if you're paying 50% on those levels.
 
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