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Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

  • Obviously! It should carry MMS and strict for 2nd++ offense..

    Votes: 2 3.1%

  • Yes, jailtime.

    Votes: 2 3.1%

  • Yah, first fine, then jail, mild jail time.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Hmm.. Perhaps..

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No..

    Votes: 57 87.7%

  • Something else(explain).

    Votes: 4 6.2%
  • Total voters
    65
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scourge99 said:
Only because you believe the law should prosecute actions which are not injurious or destructive or larcenous.
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Its not destructive for a family with a tight economy where both parents work and have their children in kindergarten, and struggle to provide for their family. All of the sudden the woman finds out the man has cheated on her with other women and it end in divorce. They get divorced and all of the sudden the children cannot be properly provided for, and lives every second week with the mother and father in unstable stressful homes. Mother starts using drugs, become drug addicted and children is neglected, father is overworked and stressed and have no time to see the children anymore, because he have to afford to pay the mother contribution. And the story could go on...

Is that not destructive? Most of the time adultery is very destructive, even deadly in some extreme cases. And the children, how destructive can it be for their lives, and how destructive can those destroyed children be for society?
 
rivrrat said:
You got stats to back that claim up? That adultery is a direct cause of violent crimes to others? And, anything to explain how one person committing adultery forces someone else to commit a crime?
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Yeah, because such stats is so easy to make :roll:

I am sure there are some research on the issue, but it would be hard to find stats. Cant you just think about it for yourself?
 
Tucker Case said:
While this is sad, and I truly do feel for you and your family. I wish you the best in this regard.

But unfortunately it really means absolutely nothing in regards to the law, which is what the point I made pertains to.
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Unfortunately it doesnt mean anything in regards to the law.. Which should be changed.. Should it not be a right of the offended party to press charges?

How about all those people who kill or use violence against their cheating wifes, there would be an alternative for them with criminalization of adultery..

You said you had been cheated on and it sucked.. If you had the possibility of pressing charges against that women and have her jailed for a short time, would you have done it?
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Its not destructive for a family with a tight economy where both parents work and have their children in kindergarten, and struggle to provide for their family. All of the sudden the woman finds out the man has cheated on her with other women and it end in divorce. They get divorced and all of the sudden the children cannot be properly provided for, and lives every second week with the mother and father in unstable stressful homes. Mother starts using drugs, become drug addicted and children is neglected, father is overworked and stressed and have no time to see the children anymore, because he have to afford to pay the mother contribution. And the story could go on...
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then they shouldn't get divorced. Problem solved.

Is that not destructive? Most of the time adultery is very destructive, even deadly in some extreme cases. And the children, how destructive can it be for their lives, and how destructive can those destroyed children be for society?
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adultery isn't destructive in this case, divorce is. If you can't afford to get divorced then don't do it... Or better yet, don't get married!!

Shall I come up with a silly anecdote too to prove my point?
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Thats the point, they wouldn't. Criminalizing adultery would only give a right to the party cheated on/hurt to press charges against the other person.

We are obviously not thinking about this in the same way. It shouldnt be a general prohibition against adultery, but should extend the rights of the party cheated on to press charges and have the adulterer punished.
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But only if they're married, right? What about couples who are not married? Would they be allowed to press charges as well? Or is the pain so much worse once you've got a ring on your finger?
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
I am sure it is for the family dad who loves his wife and whom wife claim to love him, then all of the sudden finding out his wife is riding and sucking other mens cocks while he is working to provide their family.
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And sending the mother of his children to jail is going to accomplish what exactly for his family?
 
Captain Obvious said:
How many people are convicted criminally for committing adultery?
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I'm not talking about the criminal court.

I never was.

Adultery is a civil crime handled in civil court.

You said that adultery is not a crime. That means adultery is neither a criminal or civil crime, which is false. Adultery is a civil crime.

Captain Obvious said:
Also, define trolling.
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4. Don't be a jerk - This simply means what it sounds like.
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"Do not feed the trolls" and its abbreviation DNFTT redirect here. For the Wikipedia essay, see "What is a troll?". For other uses see Troll (disambiguation).

An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.[2]
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Urban Dictionary: trolling
1. trolling

Being a prick on the internet because you can. Typically unleashing one or more cynical or sarcastic remarks on an innocent by-stander, because it's he
internet and, hey, you can.

Guy: "I just found the coolest ninja pencil in existence."
Other Guy: "I just found the most retarded thread in existence."
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Maximus Zeebra said:
You said you had been cheated on and it sucked.. If you had the possibility of pressing charges against that women and have her jailed for a short time, would you have done it?
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I've been cheated on and it sucked. But no way in hell would I have sent my daughter's father to jail. Her needs are way more important than what I would see as an unforgivably selfish need for revenge.
 
Arcana XV said:
And sending the mother of his children to jail is going to accomplish what exactly for his family?
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Justice for the man?

It could also prevent him out of frustration, with no possibility of pressing charges, the murder of his wife who cheated on him.

How exactly is divorce so much a better solution? Most people who are cheated on get divorced, to pre-empively counter your answer. Anyways she would only be jailed if the man decide to press charges against her.
 
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Maximus Zeebra said:
Yeah, because such stats is so easy to make :roll:

I am sure there are some research on the issue, but it would be hard to find stats. Cant you just think about it for yourself?
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I am thinking about it. And I can think of no stats to back up that claim. There's no way that being cheated on deprives one of free will and forces them to commit violence.

Maximus Zeebra said:
You said you had been cheated on and it sucked.. If you had the possibility of pressing charges against that women and have her jailed for a short time, would you have done it?
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Dear ****ing god NO. I certainly wouldn't have. What good could it have possibly done me to have the person who cheated on me jailed? Some kind of sick revenge? I can do that without putting him in jail and it's a WHOLE lot more satisfying.

Why on EARTH would anyone want a cheating partner jailed? What good could it possibly do for ANYONE?
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Unfortunately it doesnt mean anything in regards to the law.. Which should be changed.. Should it not be a right of the offended party to press charges?
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Like I said before, it sets a dangerous precedent in contract law. I believe the current system of awarding damages suffices.

How about all those people who kill or use violence against their cheating wifes, there would be an alternative for them with criminalization of adultery..
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They aren't committing these heinous actions because there is no crime for adultery, they are doing so because they are emotionally distressed and emotionally unstable.

Making it a crime would not prevent these people from committing violent crimes. People don't kill a cheating spouse because she won't got to jail.

You said you had been cheated on and it sucked.. If you had the possibility of pressing charges against that women and have her jailed for a short time, would you have done it?
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Absolutely not. Let me put it this way. I love my wife completely. If she were to cheat on me, it would cause me a great deal of pain and suffering. Hurting her would not alleviate my pain and suffering.

What exactly could me causing her pain in return accomplish?
 
creativedreams said:
Isn't it in the news everyday about a married couples murder/suicide because of another lover?
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So... they had no choice but to murder/suicide? None? Being cheated on robs one of free will and suddenly they have an EXCUSE to murder someone? Gimme a break.

Personal responsibility. You trusted the wrong person. Get over it. If you choose to go kill someone because someone else lied to you, then you have serious ****ing issues and should certainly be removed from society.
 
Tucker Case said:
They aren't committing these heinous actions because there is no crime for adultery, they are doing so because they are emotionally distressed and emotionally unstable.

Making it a crime would not prevent these people from committing violent crimes. People don't kill a cheating spouse because she won't got to jail.
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Did I ever claim that? How in the world can you read that from what I said? "people do not kill a cheating spouse because she wont go to jail".. Geez, thats stretching it incrdibly.. They kill out of revenge. And if jail was an alternate revenge to murder and violence and so on, it would be used and the other two alternatives would look less attractive.


Tucker Case said:
Absolutely not. Let me put it this way. I love my wife completely. If she were to cheat on me, it would cause me a great deal of pain and suffering. Hurting her would not alleviate my pain and suffering.

What exactly could me causing her pain in return accomplish?
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You wouldnt HAVE to press charges. But at least you COULD.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Justice for the man?

It could also prevent him out of frustration, with no possibility of pressing charges, the murder of his wife who cheated on him.

How exactly is divorce so much a better solution? Most people who are cheated on get divorced, to pre-empively counter your answer. Anyways she would only be jailed if the man decide to press charges against her.
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So, as I suspected, this is about revenge.

What about the children? How is having their mother rot in a jail cell a good thing for them?
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Its not destructive for a family with a tight economy where both parents work and have their children in kindergarten, and struggle to provide for their family. All of the sudden the woman finds out the man has cheated on her with other women and it end in divorce. They get divorced and all of the sudden the children cannot be properly provided for, and lives every second week with the mother and father in unstable stressful homes. Mother starts using drugs, become drug addicted and children is neglected, father is overworked and stressed and have no time to see the children anymore, because he have to afford to pay the mother contribution. And the story could go on...

Is that not destructive? Most of the time adultery is very destructive, even deadly in some extreme cases. And the children, how destructive can it be for their lives, and how destructive can those destroyed children be for society?
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:roll: What a crockpot! Like a mother cannot survive and raise good children without her husband, only thing to do is turn to drugs. This scenario sucks. How about husband cheats, woman finds out, kicks man out, and raises productive children?
 
What if both spouses are cheating?
 
Tucker Case said:
Absolutely not. Let me put it this way. I love my wife completely. If she were to cheat on me, it would cause me a great deal of pain and suffering. Hurting her would not alleviate my pain and suffering.

What exactly could me causing her pain in return accomplish?
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Gaining her respect.
 
Causing pain doesn't earn respect.
 
americanwoman said:
:roll: What a crockpot! Like a mother cannot survive and raise good children without her husband, only thing to do is turn to drugs. This scenario sucks. How about husband cheats, woman finds out, kicks man out, and raises productive children?
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Story of my childhood. Look how screwed up I am with my engineering degree, full time job, loving family, and love of life. It all could have been avoided if we just jailed my father. :lol:
 
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Tucker Case said:
Honestly, even if that were possible, why should our criminal system care if I have her respect?
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I don't know, why should they?

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And let me tell you from experience, returning fire does in fact alleviate some of the pain.

Sending the message that she cannot do just whatever she wants while free from any consequence at all helps one to deal with the situation.
 
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americanwoman said:
:roll: What a crockpot! Like a mother cannot survive and raise good children without her husband, only thing to do is turn to drugs. This scenario sucks. How about husband cheats, woman finds out, kicks man out, and raises productive children?
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Yeah, and I really said this is the only way it can turn out.. :roll: I didnt use it as ONE POSSIBLE scenario of tons of damaging and destructive scenarios.. :roll:
 
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