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Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

Should adultery be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime?

  • Obviously! It should carry MMS and strict for 2nd++ offense..

    Votes: 2 3.1%

  • Yes, jailtime.

    Votes: 2 3.1%

  • Yah, first fine, then jail, mild jail time.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Hmm.. Perhaps..

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No..

    Votes: 57 87.7%

  • Something else(explain).

    Votes: 4 6.2%
  • Total voters
    65
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EgoffTib said:
Laws that will not be enforced.
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Sure, old laws that are not enforced anymore. They are however not there for no reason..

I am actually deeply shocked by this thread and the wide and enormous support in favor of adultery.


I have ****ed around quite a bit, but all I want to now is to find 1 smart women that I will always be with, who will never cheat on me. But in todays world thats just unrealistic, unless I find some Jewish or very strictly raised Christian girl, or perhaps a Muslim girl(but those arent allowed to marry non-Muslim men, and I would never become Muslim, so it couldnt happen unless she was flexible with her faith, and that would mean she was most likely flexible on adultery as well, and other moral laws).
 
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Maximus Zeebra said:
Sure, old laws that are not enforced anymore. They are however not there for no reason..
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Sure they are. They are archaic. If they were enforced, outrage and chaos would ensue. In some states, it is illegal to have sex in any position other than the missionary position.
 
EgoffTib said:
In some states, it is illegal to have sex in any position other than the missionary position.
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:lol:

Yeah, I heard about that one in a collection database of the weirdest laws.. haha.. What state is that, do you know?
 
Jerry said:
Wikipedia is not a credible source, and this is why:

BibleGateway.com - Keyword*Search: adultery

Exodus 20:14


As the commandments were addressed to everyone and there is nothing in this commandment to even suggest that it only applies to women, the probation applies to men also.

Leviticus 20:10


Here we see that men are punished for committing adultery, therefore the prohibition on adultery did not apply only to women.

Other examples include:

Proverbs 6:32


Jeremiah 29:23


This one is very strong in my mind day to day:

Matthew 5:28


According to Jesus in this passage, a man commits adultery when he lusts after a woman just by looking at her. Jesus further teaches that men should not do this.

Matthew 5:32


In this example, if you marry a woman who was not divorced because her husband died or committed adultery, you, the new husband, are committing adultery with your new wife.

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I hope this clarifies the issue.
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How do any of these contradict Grannies claim that men could fornicate with unmarried woman without being deemed an adulterer?
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
I have ****ed around quite a bit, but all I want to now is to find 1 smart women that I will always be with, who will never cheat on me. But in todays world thats just unrealistic, unless I find some Jewish or very strictly raised Christian girl, or perhaps a Muslim girl(but those arent allowed to marry non-Muslim men, and I would never become Muslim, so it couldnt happen unless she was flexible with her faith, and that would mean she was most likely flexible on adultery as well, and other moral laws).
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There is no such thing as the perfect human Max. There are lots of good women out there. Just take your time building a relationship before getting married.

Moe
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Sure, old laws that are not enforced anymore. They are however not there for no reason..

I am actually deeply shocked by this thread and the wide and enormous support in favor of adultery.


I have ****ed around quite a bit, but all I want to now is to find 1 smart women that I will always be with, who will never cheat on me. But in todays world thats just unrealistic, unless I find some Jewish or very strictly raised Christian girl, or perhaps a Muslim girl(but those arent allowed to marry non-Muslim men, and I would never become Muslim, so it couldnt happen unless she was flexible with her faith, and that would mean she was most likely flexible on adultery as well, and other moral laws).
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Odd that you think just because we don't think adultery should be criminal that means we think adultery is just fine and dandy to engage in ourselves. There are many, many things that I think should BE legal and/or should remain legal that I would never, EVER do myself.

Thinking something should remain legal does not equal thinking something is "okay" to do ourselves.

There is no lapse in morality, merely an understanding of what the role of the government should be, and what it should NOT be.

Additionally, religion doesn't mean someone won't cheat on you. Never has, never will.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Actually, when I did some research on the issue, some states in the US have laws against adultery.
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List of states with laws against adultery:
State Adultery Laws


Interesting:
Adultery - By Franklin Foer - Slate Magazine

"The United States inherited English common law, which made adultery, as well as fornication (sex between unmarried people) and sodomy (oral and anal sex), punishable crimes. In the mid and late 19th centuries, when states wrote their criminal codes, they incorporated these sex laws. Twenty-six states continue to have anti-adultery laws on the books. These laws vary considerably. Some define adultery as any intercourse outside marriage. According to others, it occurs when a married person lives with someone other than his or her spouse. In West Virginia and North Carolina, simply "to lewdly and lasciviously associate" with anyone other than one's spouse is to be adulterous."
 
rivrrat said:
Odd that you think just because we don't think adultery should be criminal that means we think adultery is just fine and dandy to engage in ourselves. There are many, many things that I think should BE legal and/or should remain legal that I would never, EVER do myself.
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I didn't imply you people would do it yourself. But being against criminalization means that you support adultery in general as a norm in society rather than an exception, which it could become over time if adultery was criminalize.

rivrrat said:
Thinking something should remain legal does not equal thinking something is "okay" to do ourselves.
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Didnt say that, but it does show support for adultery in general as something acceptable.

rivrrat said:
Additionally, religion doesn't mean someone won't cheat on you. Never has, never will.
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Surely it decreased the risk drastically.
 
moe said:
There is no such thing as the perfect human Max. There are lots of good women out there. Just take your time building a relationship before getting married.
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Thats exactly what I am getting tired of, having to build new relationships with new people all the time and usually end up disappointed.

Next one will be a religious gal for sure!
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Thats exactly what I am getting tired of, having to build new relationships with new people all the time and usually end up disappointed.

Next one will be a religious gal for sure!
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Maybe you are trying too hard.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
I didn't imply you people would do it yourself. But being against criminalization means that you support adultery in general as a norm in society rather than an exception, which it could become over time if adultery was criminalize.

Didnt say that, but it does show support for adultery in general as something acceptable.
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No, it doesn't show "support" adultery. It shows support for people's privacy and their right to live their lives the way they want and to engage in their own private, personal relationships in whatever manner they see fit.

Surely it decreased the risk drastically.
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LOL
You're kidding, right? I do hope you are.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Of course I am not kidding, the more religious the person is the less the chance of adultery. Its one of the greatest sins in Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
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So what you are saying is that you know (without a doubt) that most non-religious people don't find adultery wrong.

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We'll add that to your "list". :wink:
 
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rivrrat said:
LMFAO

Yeah okay :lol:
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It makes sense doesn't it? Non-religious people can't have morals because they don't have a religion to give them morals. They murder, rape and steal more because of a lack of religiously instilled morals. This is common sense!!! :roll:

:2rofll:
 
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I think that it is utterly pthetic that upwards of 80% of those polled here think that adultery NOT be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime. It is indicative of the lack of morals and values that Western Society has embraced.
 
Bodhisattva said:
I think that it is utterly pthetic that upwards of 80% of those polled here think that adultery NOT be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime. It is indicative of the lack of morals and values that Western Society has embraced.
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Its part of that whole pluralism/liberty shindig.

Why should the gov't punish people for how they conduct relationships? Is it part of their business if you did not establish a contract mentioning such provisions? I think not.
 
Bodhisattva said:
I think that it is utterly pthetic that upwards of 80% of those polled here think that adultery NOT be a criminal offense punishable by jailtime. It is indicative of the lack of morals and values that Western Society has embraced.
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Indicative of the lack of morals and values that Western Society has embraced? I'd think if that were true we'd be more lawless. Actually, since you brought it up, not every moral point is law, you can practice marital fidelity without wanting to make adultery a crime. The two (beliefs/morality and what should be law) are not mutrully inclusive.
 
scourge99 said:
Its part of that whole pluralism/liberty shindig.
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Pluralism, in cases of adutlery, is not a particularly valid or constructive point, nto that you are claiming that it is, but it is for a society to choose, but to the same degree, it is a societies choice to make bad choices, so that is not much of an argument either...


Why should the gov't punish people for how they conduct relationships? Is it part of their business if you did not establish a contract mentioning such provisions? I think not.
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For the same reason that government is involved in legalizing marriage in the first place. Why should they be involved in any aspect of how people conduct relationships? If it is OK or logical for them to be in one aspect, then the same can be said for the other...

You can't have a provision calling for jailtime if your spouse cheats on you, so I'm not sure why you even brought that up.
 
Travelsonic said:
Indicative of the lack of morals and values that Western Society has embraced? I'd think if that were true we'd be more lawless. Actually, since you brought it up, not every moral point is law, you can practice marital fidelity without wanting to make adultery a crime. The two (beliefs/morality and what should be law) are not mutrully inclusive.
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I think that we are more lawless than you are attempting to understand. I am not sure where it was said or indicated that I do not understand that not every moral point is a law, especially when the moral point that we are talking about is not a law... but since you brought it up, there is no reason that more moral points can not be made into laws.
 
Travelsonic said:
Indicative of the lack of morals and values that Western Society has embraced? I'd think if that were true we'd be more lawless. Actually, since you brought it up, not every moral point is law, you can practice marital fidelity without wanting to make adultery a crime. The two (beliefs/morality and what should be law) are not mutrully inclusive.
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Because the laws of our country didn't address this issue more logically 200 yrs ago this is how america has evolved...."Shameless".....absolutely sickening!
 
As if our jails and prisons aren't clogged up enough as it is.

Religion and politics (laws) should be completely separate, though much of common law is based on some religious belief in one way or another.

IMO - we need to be reducing our legislation and enforcing the laws that we have in place now.
 
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