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What is the least biased news outlet?

What is the least biased news outlet?


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Yes, of course -- but why can an American not listen to an international news outlet like the BBC? Many Americans do, in fact. As do Canadians, Brits, Frenchmen, Russians, Germans, Indians... The BBC is indeed a British outlet, but its branches are old enough and varied enough to stand on their own internationally.

You ought to check out BBC America some time -- it's quite good.

I should watch BBC more often I guess. The last time I did, ( I forget why) but I got the impression they were leaning left.
 
I also think the BBC leans more to the left. I feel they are very biased when it comes to issues regarding the UN and global warming. I have read some BBC articles that seem to be very fair though.
 
The question should have been who is most likely to give you the whole stories.

Unfortunately it is clear that a lot of people are unable tell the difference between a talks show and a News show.

Fox Talk shows are filled with Conservatives other than Juan Williams the the wacko Alan Combs, but the News seems to include all stories CNN is filled with Liberals and pretty much doesn't report on Obama's lies or mistakes at all.

In my book those are lies of omission and that makes them almost as bad as MSNBC which is about as much as a news channel as comedy central.
 
The BBC hands down does not try to inject spin the way American news does. Of course, this is from the perspective of someone watching it for news about America. I think that removal is a huge boon. I might not want to go to the BBC for information about Britain. Outsides who have no stake in the news they are reporting have less incentive to lie. Both NBC and Fox like to put their opinion people on as their main stars and, honestly, their non-opinion people are just as guilty.

This problem really isn't as hard to figure out as people think. Consider the recent trial of the 9/11 terrorist. I first read it as an article stating "terrorist acquitted, massive shame for Obama." There are two lies in that headline. The truth is that the terrorist was convicted of one charge, out of two hundred. The sentence for that conviction was twenty years to life. An honest headline would have said "terrorist sentenced to 20-life." It would discuss the fact that there were many charges against the defendant, reasons why some of them failed, what he was actually convicted of, and the sentence. There would be no mention of who supported civilian trials vs military trials or whether this is a good thing. The news in this is just the facts. The minute you start trying to tie it into some larger political scheme, you have started to inject your opinion. An honest news source would stick to the facts.
 
Helicopters are a race? :confused:

They are kind of like Mexicans. While airplanes mainly focus on at least going somewhere, the helicopters hover around doing the jobs the airplanes -with their constant need for forward mobility- are too good for. :roll:
 
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They're all biased.

In this thread right now is a bunch of biased people arguing over how biased each biased station is.

To not be biased is impossible.
 
Unfortunately, it's not too far of a jump from thinking Stewart and Colbert are "news" to thinking the Onion is actual news.
 
Unfortunately, it's not too far of a jump from thinking Stewart and Colbert are "news" to thinking the Onion is actual news.

Anyone who watches/listens to/reads any one of the "mainstream" news outlets for actual "unbiased" news, is, well, not very well-informed.....let's just leave it at that. Therefore; I choose to watch/listen more for the entertainment value, and I find The Onion to be quite entertaining indeed! :mrgreen:
 
I should watch BBC more often I guess. The last time I did, ( I forget why) but I got the impression they were leaning left.

Well, I suppose that just by nature they're a bit more to the left than most American outlets, as the entirety of Europe is more to the left than America is. But the point, I feel, is that they don't TRY to spin things to the left or to the right -- there's no ulterior political motive to debase either the left or the right, and they atleast try to be fair to all parties encountred. While they may feel that a subject like abortion, which in Europe is considered something of a non-issue, is something of a ridiculous talking point and thus they'll seem to lean more pro-Choice, they'll do it in a manner that presents both opinions on the subject, and then leaves the reader to make up their mind -- whereas MSNBC will be blatantly pro-Choice, and FOX will be blatantly pro-Life.
 
probably because tax dollars support them. They are leftwing shills

Very little of their support comes from the government. Most of it is from listener donations.

I think the big problem is that the public and some TV people don't know the difference between opinion/commentary and news. Commmentary shows such as Hannity, Beck, O'Reilly, Olberman are biased and shouldn't pretend to be otherwise. News should be strictly facts and therefore have no bias. Asking a tough question that is difficult for someone to answer, such as, "name a Supreme Court decision with which you disagree," is not bias.
 
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you cant group NBC and MSNBC into one. NBC is a genuine unbias news outlet while MSNBC has a clear leaning, though they make no effort to make it out as 'fair and balanced' which is respectable, kinda a bunch of dicks though
 
you cant group NBC and MSNBC into one. NBC is a genuine unbias news outlet while MSNBC has a clear leaning, though they make no effort to make it out as 'fair and balanced' which is respectable, kinda a bunch of dicks though

NBC not biased? I disagree. Besides, total objectivity/inability to be biased is impossible.
 
NBC not biased? I disagree. Besides, total objectivity/inability to be biased is impossible.

it all depends on how you interpret it. in my personal experience with NBC, they report the news, facts. you might have seen something different i dont know.
 
it all depends on how you interpret it. in my personal experience with NBC, they report the news, facts. you might have seen something different i dont know.

Do you think NBC purposely witholds certain issues?
 
According to a Harvard Professor...
HARVARD PROF: "Fox News LEAST Biased" (here's the proof...)
The Media Sectors | Project for Excellence in Journalism (PEJ)
The programming studied on Fox News offered a somewhat more positive picture of Republicans and more negative one of Democrats compared with other media outlets. Fox News stories about a Republican candidate were most likely to be neutral (47%), with the remainder more positive than negative (32% vs. 21% negative). The bulk of that positive coverage went to Giuliani (44% positive), while McCain still suffered from unflattering coverage (20% positive vs. 35% negative).

When it came to Democratic candidates, the picture was more negative. Again, neutral stories had a slight edge (39%), followed by 37% negative and 24% positive. And, in marked contrast from the rest of the media, coverage of Obama was twice as negative as positive: 32% negative vs. 16% positive and 52% neutral.

But any sense here that the news channel was uniformly positive about Republicans or negative about Democrats is not manifest in the data.
 
We all know FOX News leans to the right and NBC/MSNBC leans to the left.

No, Fox News does not "lean to the right" - it is blatant propaganda. And NBC/MSNBC leans toward center-right Democrats.

So my question is, which of the major US TV media outlets do you consider to be the least biased?

There are no major US TV media outlets that I would say still practice journalism. There are individuals in some organizations that do, but there are no complete large-scale institutions that are still journalistic: They have been annihilated by corporate consolidation and the internet-driven triumph of quantity over quality.
 
No, Fox News does not "lean to the right" - it is blatant propaganda. And NBC/MSNBC leans toward center-right Democrats.



There are no major US TV media outlets that I would say still practice journalism. There are individuals in some organizations that do, but there are no complete large-scale institutions that are still journalistic: They have been annihilated by corporate consolidation and the internet-driven triumph of quantity over quality.

Ok, I'll give you a little nibble. Got proof that FOX News is propoganda (and keep in mind I have evidence to prove that MSNBC is propoganda). And if MSNBC is "center-right" democrat, then I'm Ghengis Khan.
 
This thread was moving along quite nicely (if you're a liberal), until I went and mucked it all up with facts :ninja:
 
Ok, I'll give you a little nibble. Got proof that FOX News is propoganda

All you can stomach. But let's start with stage-managing "Tea Parties":

Fox News Producer Caught Rallying the Crowds During the 9/12 Protests | Video Cafe

(and keep in mind I have evidence to prove that MSNBC is propoganda)

I'm sure you do. No fair and balanced news organization would let Democrats talk.

And if MSNBC is "center-right" democrat, then I'm Ghengis Khan.

MSNBC didn't want Democrats as its audience at all - they lost the lucrative extreme right to Fox News, and found the only person they had pulling in any numbers was Keith Olbermann. So now they dish out Democratic-flavored entertainment while promulgating center-right memes. Nice to see you again, Great Khan.
 
MSNBC didn't want Democrats as its audience at all - they lost the lucrative extreme right to Fox News, and found the only person they had pulling in any numbers was Keith Olbermann. So now they dish out Democratic-flavored entertainment while promulgating center-right memes. Nice to see you again, Great Khan.

plus, the democratic party isnt even on the left side of the political spectrum, they're moderates. american politics has been perverted with a right wing slant, and hence the democrats are only left in relation to the republicans, who are also are much more conservative then most americans relize (borderline fascists)
 
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