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How do you feel about your own personal physique/figure?

How do you feel about your personal physique/figure?

  • Very comfortable: I don't mind people seeing me in any appropriate place

    Votes: 25 62.5%
  • Somewhat comforable: Only places like spas, swimming pools, beach, etc

    Votes: 9 22.5%
  • Moderately comforable: Only prefer people of my own gender seeing me

    Votes: 4 10.0%
  • Somewhat uncomforable: Would rather not anyone see my physical shape

    Votes: 2 5.0%
  • Embarassed: Try to hide everything I can.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    40
  • Poll closed .
I like the post topic because I started trying to think back on why I don't give a **** about my physique even when it was actually pretty good, as this is a somewhat unusual view on the issue. Usually people with good physiques have some degree of pride in it, but for me it was just what it was.

So I was thinking and I figure it goes back to when I was in high school. I had a delayed growth spurt, like seriously delayed. I didn't even hit my growth spurt until 16-17.

I was about 5' even when I was a freshman, and about 5'4 on my sixteenth birthday. I didn't hit 145 lbs until my senior year in highschool in football, even though I played defensive line (I've always been strong for my size).

But I didn't hit my full height until I was about 20 (5'10) and then al lof a sudden, after years and years of trying to bulk up for football and never gaining a pound, I magically jumped to about 185 (this was what I weighed when I had a six pack) but nobody could tell that was my weight. They always guessed I was in the 165-175 range.

So for me, I was just happy not to be a tiny little bastard anymore. I didn't care about what I looked like as much as I cared about not being small (My father is a huge man and always was a huge man. He's only 6' tall, but his frame is massive. So big that there is a picture of him standing next to Dan Hampton of the Bears from back when he was younger and he actually looks broader and wider in the shoulders than Hampton does in it)

So for me, being small was bad, but being big (not fat) was good. Once I reached a size that could place me as a failry big guy for my height, I was perfectly content. The physique was never a consideration.

Now I weigh 210, but most people are always shocked when I tell them because I'm not fat. I still wear the "athletic cut" suits even now, so I guess I got nothing to complain about. :mrgreen:
 
I don't mind people seeing my body wherever. I work pretty hard on my body though so I like showing it off.
 
see I work really hard on my clothes so I'd rather people see them then me be shirtless. Actually it'd be an interesting experiment for me to tally how much time I spend shopping versus how much time I spend at the gym.
 
see I work really hard on my clothes so I'd rather people see them then me be shirtless. Actually it'd be an interesting experiment for me to tally how much time I spend shopping versus how much time I spend at the gym.

Would that even be a contest?
 
Would that even be a contest?

I go to the gym three times a week but I don't time my routine I just have a set I do...i guess it takes maybe 45 minutes? So that's 2 and a half hours.

Versus maybe an hour three times a week...so three hours.

So it's about the same.
 
I go to the gym three times a week but I don't time my routine I just have a set I do...i guess it takes maybe 45 minutes? So that's 2 and a half hours.

Versus maybe an hour three times a week...so three hours.

So it's about the same.

Wow...I go to the gym for about and hour and a half in the morning 3 times a week and for about two hours in the evening 2 times a week. That's just for me.

Sometimes Josh and I just go to the gym to play raquetball or to run together or we used to do the cycling class before I couldn't anymore. We're usually there 2-3 hours together about 2 times a week, maybe. Sporadically on that though.
 
Wow...I go to the gym for about and hour and a half in the morning 3 times a week and for about two hours in the evening 2 times a week. That's just for me.

Sometimes Josh and I just go to the gym to play raquetball or to run together or we used to do the cycling class before I couldn't anymore. We're usually there 2-3 hours together about 2 times a week, maybe. Sporadically on that though.

I don't have **** for gym time. Kids, etc.

I have a wii though :lol:
 
Wow...I go to the gym for about and hour and a half in the morning 3 times a week and for about two hours in the evening 2 times a week. That's just for me.

Sometimes Josh and I just go to the gym to play raquetball or to run together or we used to do the cycling class before I couldn't anymore. We're usually there 2-3 hours together about 2 times a week, maybe. Sporadically on that though.

I only go to keep my size and do weights, I actually hate it. I vastly prefer to just ride my bike around, although that's harder during the winter.

I hate the gym, it's so boring and the music sucks and I don't know anyone. I really hate going.

The music is so loud it always drowns out my headphones so I have to listen to their inane gym trance music.

It's so lame. It's such a chore to go. I can't wait until I have a long term partner and I can get fat and not have to go anymore
 
Well.

I think for someone to say that they are not self-aware as far as physique goes, even in the smallest degree, are not telling the truth :)
I guess there could be the possibility where self-awareness could just not be there at all, but those are the members whom I'd considered are under an unusual amount of mind altering drugs; I.e. Galenrox. In the culture we have goign on in America we see all these "slamming" bodies, and people who have spent way too much time not only in the gym but also in front of the mirror, and in the supplement section of their grocery store.

I used to do a bunch of weight lifting, but I finally realized that the human body is just not designed to build muscle whenever one wants to build muscle. It seems the constant struggle of the body to stretch the muscle, tear it, and "replace it" buts too much strain on the body itself. But, I do realize the importance of those who do not have very "healthy" working lives, where they sit in a cubicle all day and they have to exercise in order to stay "in-shape" To suffer torments on their muscle in order for aesthetics.

I stopped my extreme working out routine when I heard this story of a guy who lived in my home-town, who owned a gym suddenly dying from a heart attack because he was too big. No, not because he was obese, but because his muscles were too developed and they were just putting an extraorindary amount of stress on his heart.

After that I started running a lot more. Running has always been my supplement to stressful times, and to stay releatively healthy; my dad got me into it, as he's an avid runner and he owns a running-shoe store. This past running season (for me running season are any times when it's not frigidly cold. So mid-spring to mid-Fall, I maxed at a half-marathon. I am going to attempt the marathon this next season, hoping I can get back into a good routine.

Some numbers? Well. I started off college at 5 feet 10 inches and 230 lbs, but now, as a sophomore, I am about 6 feet and 170 lbs.
 
I only go to keep my size and do weights, I actually hate it. I vastly prefer to just ride my bike around, although that's harder during the winter.

I hate the gym, it's so boring and the music sucks and I don't know anyone. I really hate going.

The music is so loud it always drowns out my headphones so I have to listen to their inane gym trance music.

It's so lame. It's such a chore to go. I can't wait until I have a long term partner and I can get fat and not have to go anymore

The whole reason I started going again was because I was starting to get fat and I was tired all the time. I started working out really hard to feel better but, come to find out, it was a real health problem that had me feeling ****ty. I just kept working out though because I liked the way I was looking again.

I'm serious...hours of gym time per week is directly proportionate to the number of years younger you look. ;)

And if you go every day, you meet people and start doing things other than just boring weight routines with them. It becomes a social network after a few months.
 
Well.

I think for someone to say that they are not self-aware as far as physique goes, even in the smallest degree, are not telling the truth :)
I guess there could be the possibility where self-awareness could just not be there at all, but those are the members whom I'd considered are under an unusual amount of mind altering drugs; I.e. Galenrox. In the culture we have goign on in America we see all these "slamming" bodies, and people who have spent way too much time not only in the gym but also in front of the mirror, and in the supplement section of their grocery store.

I used to do a bunch of weight lifting, but I finally realized that the human body is just not designed to build muscle whenever one wants to build muscle. It seems the constant struggle of the body to stretch the muscle, tear it, and "replace it" buts too much strain on the body itself. But, I do realize the importance of those who do not have very "healthy" working lives, where they sit in a cubicle all day and they have to exercise in order to stay "in-shape" To suffer torments on their muscle in order for aesthetics.

I stopped my extreme working out routine when I heard this story of a guy who lived in my home-town, who owned a gym suddenly dying from a heart attack because he was too big. No, not because he was obese, but because his muscles were too developed and they were just putting an extraorindary amount of stress on his heart.

After that I started running a lot more. Running has always been my supplement to stressful times, and to stay releatively healthy; my dad got me into it, as he's an avid runner and he owns a running-shoe store. This past running season (for me running season are any times when it's not frigidly cold. So mid-spring to mid-Fall, I maxed at a half-marathon. I am going to attempt the marathon this next season, hoping I can get back into a good routine.

Some numbers? Well. I started off college at 5 feet 10 inches and 230 lbs, but now, as a sophomore, I am about 6 feet and 170 lbs.

It's also true that a body that is fit from just being active as a lifestyle is much more appealing than a body that is fit from just being at the gym 25 hours a week.
 
Well here's the thing, any workout I do in the gym is significantly supplemented by the amount of utility biking I do. Two and from my job is maybe three miles, plus maybe another 1 or 2 visiting people or getting dinner or whatever.

Here's my actual secret to remaining competitive as a 34W 5'9 in a 28W 6' world: just look different. Everyones actually really bored with "hot" guys so if you look radically different (and do it well) you'll get a lot of attention.

It sure is easier to pierce your nose and shave your head then it is to lose 15 lbs and grow 6 inches.
 
Well here's the thing, any workout I do in the gym is significantly supplemented by the amount of utility biking I do. Two and from my job is maybe three miles, plus maybe another 1 or 2 visiting people or getting dinner or whatever.

Here's my actual secret to remaining competitive as a 34W 5'9 in a 28W 6' world: just look different. Everyones actually really bored with "hot" guys so if you look radically different (and do it well) you'll get a lot of attention.

It sure is easier to pierce your nose and shave your head then it is to lose 15 lbs and grow 6 inches.

Yeah well that attitude begins to change the closer you barrel toward 30. :mrgreen:

But you are right...I find myself physically fascinated with guys that look different much quicker than I do with guys that look like they came out of the West Hollywood factory standard mold.
 
I'm definitely going to be a real lame "weekend warrior".

Punk as ****: M-F 5PM-2AM and on Saturdays and Sundays.

In the subculture community there's a phenomenon known as "the rockabilly retirement plan" wherein people from whatever subculture, exactly as they hit 30, have to stop being in whatever subculture they're in and become rockabilly.

You MUST grow a small pomp, sideburns and buy some flaming dice or pinup-girl-devil-sitting-in-a-martini-glass shirts.

They take away your studded leather jackets and replace them with plain ones and don't let you roll-up your pant legs anymore to show off your boots. In fact, you're lucky if they let you keep your boots. A lot of times you have to give them in to the Subculture Aging Authority and have them replaced with leopard print brothel-creepers.

So I guess I'll be hitting the gym in 8 years.
 
I'm definitely going to be a real lame "weekend warrior".

Punk as ****: M-F 5PM-2AM and on Saturdays and Sundays.

In the subculture community there's a phenomenon known as "the rockabilly retirement plan" wherein people from whatever subculture, exactly as they hit 30, have to stop being in whatever subculture they're in and become rockabilly.

You MUST grow a small pomp, sideburns and buy some flaming dice or pinup-girl-devil-sitting-in-a-martini-glass shirts.

They take away your studded leather jackets and replace them with plain ones and don't let you roll-up your pant legs anymore to show off your boots. In fact, you're lucky if they let you keep your boots. A lot of times you have to give them in to the Subculture Aging Authority and have them replaced with leopard print brothel-creepers.

So I guess I'll be hitting the gym in 8 years.

I was never much into any subculture fashion so I guess I dodged that one.

I have found since moving to LA that my fashion is expressing itself more in my jackets and shirt combinations. I look great in a tight Christian Audigier print tee-shirt with a leather sportcoat, copper washed jeans from from express and these ****ing awesome half boots from Guess.

That's what I am wearing today. :mrgreen:
 
You can't dress like that in the northeast, you have to wear muted colors or the Miserable Police will arrest you to not doing your share to make the entire area of the country as depressing looking as possible.

A purple shirt with glitter and skulls on it would be grounds for permanent banishment. Unless you're black. Actually come to think of it, black guys around here LOVE Christian Audigier. It does kind of fit their style. I think maybe it's their revenge for white people stealing hoodies from them.
 
You can't dress like that in the northeast, you have to wear muted colors or the Miserable Police will arrest you to not doing your share to make the entire area of the country as depressing looking as possible.

A purple shirt with glitter and skulls on it would be grounds for permanent banishment. Unless you're black. Actually come to think of it, black guys around here LOVE Christian Audigier. It does kind of fit their style. I think maybe it's their revenge for white people stealing hoodies from them.

Are they wearing Christian Audigier or are they wearing Ed Hardy by Christian Audigier? There is a distinct difference. I won't touch Ed Hardy. It's way too much...almost garrish in it's attempt but something about the Christian Audigier line is hot even though it's the same principle.

That Stephen Sprouse tribute line that Christian Audigier did for Louis Vutton is way to dangerously close to bringing the 80's back again though.
 
Well.

I think for someone to say that they are not self-aware as far as physique goes, even in the smallest degree, are not telling the truth :)
I guess there could be the possibility where self-awareness could just not be there at all, but those are the members whom I'd considered are under an unusual amount of mind altering drugs; I.e. Galenrox. In the culture we have goign on in America we see all these "slamming" bodies, and people who have spent way too much time not only in the gym but also in front of the mirror, and in the supplement section of their grocery store.

I'm self-aware, I just honestly don't give a **** in either direction. When I was in great shape, I didn't care. Now that I'm basically "normal" is still don't care. The only reason I was ever in really good shape was becasue I had a very physically demanding job. I never worked out after I stopped playing sports.

Maybe if I got fat I'd care, but mostly just for health reasons.

I'm truly not interested in the way I look to others in any way, shape, or form.

If people find me physically attractive, I don't really care.

If people find me physically repulsive, I still don't really care.

I mean, I could look like Quato from total recal and I wouldn't give a ****.

That doesn't mean I wouldn't be self-aware enough to realize that I look like Quato from Total Recall if that were the case.
 
Are they wearing Christian Audigier or are they wearing Ed Hardy by Christian Audigier? There is a distinct difference. I won't touch Ed Hardy. It's way too much...almost garrish in it's attempt but something about the Christian Audigier line is hot even though it's the same principle.

That Stephen Sprouse tribute line that Christian Audigier did for Louis Vutton is way to dangerously close to bringing the 80's back again though.


I dunno, they were purple shirts with glitter and skulls with and wings and Fleur-de-lis on them. Looks like Christian to me.

I have a very strange relationship with 80s fashion because it's only been brought to me through various hipster fads. I mean, that can't possibly be representative of what people actually dressed like then. I doubt EVERYONE wore leggings ALL the time. It's like I'm seeing a weird parody of 80s fashion as interpreted by people who were about 4 at the time. And then further distorted by the need for the cool kids to be ironic about everything. Did people really wear Members Only jackets?

For what it's worth I think mainstream pop-culture was pretty **** then.

New Wave was ****ing gay and lame and terrible.
 
I dunno, they were purple shirts with glitter and skulls with and wings and Fleur-de-lis on them. Looks like Christian to me.

I have a very strange relationship with 80s fashion because it's only been brought to me through various hipster fads. I mean, that can't possibly be representative of what people actually dressed like then. I doubt EVERYONE wore leggings ALL the time. It's like I'm seeing a weird parody of 80s fashion as interpreted by people who were about 4 at the time. And then further distorted by the need for the cool kids to be ironic about everything. Did people really wear Members Only jackets?

For what it's worth I think mainstream pop-culture was pretty **** then.

New Wave was ****ing gay and lame and terrible.

Yes, people really wore member's only jackets. And Izod. In colors like "electric yellow".

The only thing left over from the 80's that I like is the ability to wear canvas tennis shoes with a suit.
 
like the 10th Doctor:

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Yes, those are white chucks.

I really like the 80s because that was the era "high punk"- before "anti-fashion" was created and everyone really wore the full uniform. Now it's passe and you'll probably be called a poseur, but then it was still fresh.

Wattie from The Exploited in the early 80s sometime:
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So even if you have absolutely no interest in punk fashion you have to admit: that dude is wearing a costume. Putting that together would be fun; it'd be like doing wardrobe for theatre. Fashion punk is poseur punk blah blah blah whatever...

The dudes from Minor Threat in the late 80s/early 90s:
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Wooo. White guys in t-shirts. Alternative rock. Behh.

**** that.

The 80s was also the era of totally respectable and not terrible goth fashion. Contemporary goth fashion is just miserably bad hot topic fat chick crap. But the 80s has people like the incredible Siouxie Sioux:

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I feel like it was a more theatrical period in fashion.
 
Now you are moving into realms of theory that I know nothing of. I just happen to be a label whore. :mrgreen:
 
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