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Could we have stopped 9/11?

Could we have stopped 9/11?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 16 50.0%
  • No.

    Votes: 16 50.0%

  • Total voters
    32
It’s odd people speak about border control when the so-called terrorists came into this country by Visas.
 
They would have found any reason unless we were to destroy Israel.
There are complex relationships there. The issue could have been avoided any number of ways, with each side possessing the ability to change events peacefully. Nobody is willing to give, though.
 
There are complex relationships there. The issue could have been avoided any number of ways, with each side possessing the ability to change events peacefully. Nobody is willing to give, though.

I'm not convinced that terrorist groups would stop until the Jewish people were expelled from the region or killed altogether.
 
How would we go about stopping 9/11 unless we changed September to only have 10 days or changing the calender to have less than 9 months? :2razz:
 
It’s odd people speak about border control when the so-called terrorists came into this country by Visas.

At least some of which were expired at the time of the attacks. If our immigration policies were actually being enforced, those people wouldn't have been in the country to make those attacks.
 
How would we go about stopping 9/11 unless we changed September to only have 10 days or changing the calender to have less than 9 months? :2razz:

Damn if we did that, I would cease to exist as my birthday is 9/17 :shock:


There's our "I don't exist" argument again- this is getting too good ;)
 
Damn if we did that, I would cease to exist as my birthday is 9/17 :shock:


There's our "I don't exist" argument again- this is getting too good ;)

I'm sorry, DHS has determined that in order to prevent another 9/11 we will have to terminate your existence.

Have a nice day.

:rofl
 
I'm not convinced that terrorist groups would stop until the Jewish people were expelled from the region or killed altogether.
Or if America he ceased to support Israeli actions in the Occupied Territories.
 
Or if America he ceased to support Israeli actions in the Occupied Territories.

Or if Iran and Syria ceased to support terrorists.
 
The 19 terrorists would have found another way to kill just as many people and instead of 9/11 we'd probably have 4/19 or 5/15 or some other number. Flying a plane into a building is not exactly the easiest way to go when wanting to kill a large number of people. I know it's fun to blame Bush and/or Clinton for 9/11 but anybody who seriously claims and believes we could have seen 19 Arabs hopping on planes and running them against buildings is either a fool or just plain out retarded. Nobody could have seen anything like Pearl Harbor coming or the Oklahoma city bombing or the USS Cole and even if they did, so what? We would have had other attacks named differently with different dates in different places.

In the world of hindsight 20/20 we see everything heading our way long after we've passed it.
 
The 19 terrorists would have found another way to kill just as many people and instead of 9/11 we'd probably have 4/19 or 5/15 or some other number. Flying a plane into a building is not exactly the easiest way to go when wanting to kill a large number of people. I know it's fun to blame Bush and/or Clinton for 9/11 but anybody who seriously claims and believes we could have seen 19 Arabs hopping on planes and running them against buildings is either a fool or just plain out retarded. Nobody could have seen anything like Pearl Harbor coming or the Oklahoma city bombing or the USS Cole and even if they did, so what? We would have had other attacks named differently with different dates in different places.

In the world of hindsight 20/20 we see everything heading our way long after we've passed it.

Dude, I asked my BIL what kept planes from flying into Sears Tower. He said it couldn't happen. I said what if the plane was hijacked.

That was July 3, 2001. I was at the Taste of Chicago.
 
At least some of which were expired at the time of the attacks. If our immigration policies were actually being enforced, those people wouldn't have been in the country to make those attacks.

You don't think they could have gotten into this country as visitors? We have no rules against tourists coming here. And then all they had to do is visit a True Value Hardware for some box cutters.

Unless you get some inside info you're not going to stop attacks. Those guys didn't tell anybody what they were going to do so nobody knew anything. It's really a wonder they never attacked again. Even in a smaller way.

Ya know, America Airlines used to pass out box cutters with their company name on them as a little marketing gift to people. :shock:
 
Dude, I asked my BIL what kept planes from flying into Sears Tower. He said it couldn't happen. I said what if the plane was hijacked.

That was July 3, 2001. I was at the Taste of Chicago.

Yeah nobody would have seen it coming. Not in a million years. Just like nobody thought a day before Pearl Harbor that any foreign enemy would actually be as bold as to attack us on our own turf. The idea of a bunch of guys using box cutters to hijack and fly a plane into a building is just so ****ing far fetched that nobody would think it's even remotely possible had it not been for 9/11.
 
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Yeah nobody would have seen it coming. Not in a million years. Just like nobody thought a day before Pearl Harbor that any foreign enemy would actually be as bold as to attack us on our own turf. The idea of a bunch of guys using box cutters to hijack and fly a plane into a building is just so ****ing far fetched that nobody would think it's even remotely possible had it not been for 9/11.

I can think of at least 19 people that thought it was remotely possible.

You do realize that we pay people to think of things like this right?
 
Yeah nobody would have seen it coming. Not in a million years.

In Debt of Honor, Tom Clancy describes a similar event to 9/11 occuring with a Japanese pilot going Kamikaze way back in 1994. (Oh yeah, we should probably remember that we were already well aware that people have used this tactic before considering that whole "Kamikaze" stuff in WWII)


And on top of that, George Carlin pointed out the absurdity of allowing knives on planes in 1999:

They'll take away a gun, but let you keep a knife. Well, what the **** is that? In fact, there is a whole list of lethal objects they will allow you to take on board. Theoretically, you could take a knife, an ice pick, a hatchet, a straight razor, a pair of scissors, a chainsaw, six knitting needles, and a broken whiskey bottle, and the only thing they're going to say to you is, "That bag has to fit all the way under the seat in front of you."

And if you didn't bring a weapon on board, *relax*. After you've been flying for about an hour, they're going to *bring* you a knife and fork! They actually *give* you a ****ing knife! It's only a table knife, but you could kill a pilot with a table knife. It might take you a couple minutes. You know. Yeah, especially if he's hefty.



So to say that "nobody could have seen it coming" is pretty ridiculous.

An author and a comedian combined to figure out the exact situation that occured on 9/11.

Are these two cats smarter than every single person who was making decisions about our safety?

Unfortunately, the answer is apparently "yes".
 
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Remember something about Ralph Nader having an idea already in the 80's to put in reinforced doors in the planes, but the airlines though it was to expensive. Don't know if it's true but such simple idea could maybe have stopped the terrorist from using planes as weapons.
 
These guys weren't breaking any laws. I don't know why we would have stopped them from getting on those planes. You need a reason, ya know. And it wasn't like slamming planes full of passengers into skyscrapers was a common occurrence. Naturally with planes you think of bombs, not box cutters.

Knowing that Al Qaeda is out to get you doesn't give you much to go on.
 
It’s odd people speak about border control when the so-called terrorists came into this country by Visas.

Because there is a far better chance to smuggle and accumulate large ammounts of anthrax, other germs, etc accross the borders than through a search monitored checkpoint....:stooges
 
CD
I say once more: the so-called terrorists did not come across the border; they came into this country by the VISA process. The so-called anthrax scare did not come across the border but, from US military labs.
So, I point out the oddity of not correcting the actually pathways that threats have come into this country.
 
Could we have stopped 911? Sure as hell could have, but why? It was in our best interest to allow it to happen so that we could fight world wide terrorism in their back yard with our military. What would we have gained if we stopped the attack? Nothing.
 
Bodhisattva said:
You seem to have a sickening view (I think you should change your lean to neo-conservative). Of course, stopping 9/11 would have saved lives but, this world-wide terrorism is a boogieman used by the people in the US who want to use our military to conquer the world. Terrorism is simply blowback for the black-opts type of dealings our CIA, etc have done behind our backs.
 
Depends on whether or not you think we can stop a day from happening a not.

9/11 happens once a year, every year.
 
Of course we could not stop 9/11 from happening, as it was an inside job and the result of a sham election putting "the right people" into office to perpetrate the crime.
 
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