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Should Gitmo Be Closed ASAP?

Should Gitmo Be Closed ASAP?

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Dio any of the terrorist sympathizers have any solution for the terrorists who were released from gitmo and are now back fighting and terrorizing people?
 
moe said:
I would have rather had 16 years of Clinton than 8 of Bush. Say what you want about Clinton but it was the Clinton military that went into Afghanistan.

Not Bush. By that I mean the military that Clinton policies built and maintained. Bush simply used it. The Coalitions that Bush built were made possible by the good will that Clinton garnered for the US. Bush simply frittered all that away. Clinton was a respected politician around the world. Bush is seen as bumbling fool. Even during the blow job scandal he had more support from world leaders and people overseas than he did at home. Nelson Mandela even spoke for him. Could you see Mandela speaking for George Bush with his humans rights record? I do believe that if Clinton were president for the last 8 years we would not be be up to our neck in Iraq with another generation of PTSD victims.

Clinton policies actually produced positive results in Bosnia and Kosovo. Saddam was contained. We were building a relation ship of trust in the middle east. One time Arab antagonists were slowly changing their long held stances against Israel. Economic surpluses. yeah that damn Clinton he really screwed up the country.

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Moe, Bro,you are so out of touch with reality. Cliton gutted the militaries,ALL branches. Do not confuse my remarks with what Cliton did,its that he DID NOTHING in the aftermath of nearly every single attack on American military and American government facilities throughout his very long 8 years of being a worthless pig in the whitehouse. It was the republican congress ,in place throughout Clitons term of office that saved the remnants of our millitaries for the pathetic G W Bush to use in Afganistan. Gitmo is a fine prison for terrorist detainment. Great snorkeling in the barracuda infested waters just over the cliffs from the detainment area too.
 
Laila said:
This has been going on for years and you what? Suddenly think because its 2009 the sick guards would have stopped abuse? How niave are you?
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CRY ME A RIVER EU LIBERAL. Your whine isn`t palitable.The terrorists are imprisoned for CRIMES. BTW the next time you see a terrorist ,with visible signs of torture, will be the first time. Post the evidence on line for us...undoctored photos please,your words are short of evidence and trustworthiness.
 
bhkad said:
Should Gitmo Be Closed ASAP?

Hell no.

But why not run the poll after some of the released detainees kill innocent people or US or Coalition soldiers.
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Coalition? What coalition is that? The coalition of the retarded Bush made up coalition? Is that the one you're referring to?

Tell you what. How about we perform the exact same not torture techniques on you and your family for 6+ years or more and then you write an op-ed piece in the "Coalition News" about how America under Bush didn't torture? OK?
 
walleye said:
It seems to me that closing Gitmo is nothing more than rearranging the furniture to please some moonbats. So we take them out of Gitmo and place them in another prison. What does that accomplish?
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Here's a novel AMERICAN STYLE idea! How about we charge them and try them for whatever crimes we've detained them for...you know like non-Bush infected civilizes first world countries would do?

Too risky for you? It sucks to have laws, doesn't it? Hey you know if you move to Afghanistan you can live amongst a government that has no laws, mistreats people all the time and has no checks or balances of any kind...just the sort of place you envision Bush America to be!
 
bhkad said:
By freeing his mind while imprisoned Malcolm X said he'd never felt so free.

Dr. King continued his quest while in jail.

Anyone who was falsely imprisoned could free their minds and rise above their circumstances.
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Something tells me that you would be singing a much different tune if you were falsely imprisoned. What a joke.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Really? Can you show me in the history of warfare where war prisoners were released during the prosecution of a war?
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Psssttt... we are fighting a war on "terror". Do you know what that means? It can never be won. So do we hold prisoners indefinitely?
 
It should absolutely be closed immediately. It's a lightning rod for our enemies and symbolizes one of our worst mistakes in prosecuting this war against terrorist organizations.
 
Lerxst said:
It should absolutely be closed immediately. It's a lightning rod for our enemies and symbolizes one of our worst mistakes in prosecuting this war against terrorist organizations.
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What would you do with the war captured there?
 
walleye said:
Dio any of the terrorist sympathizers have any solution for the terrorists who were released from gitmo and are now back fighting and terrorizing people?
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Can you show us whom you're talking about? How about some links to legitimate websites that prove what you're claiming?
 
Family Guy said:
Here's a novel AMERICAN STYLE idea! How about we charge them and try them for whatever crimes we've detained them for...you know like non-Bush infected civilizes first world countries would do?
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There is nothing "American" about misrepresenting foreign terrorists captured on the battlefield killing our troops as American citizens arrested for breaking the law. That level of dishonesty and ignorance comes only from the constitutionally illiterate terror-apologists of the left. Foreign terrorists don't even have rights under our Constitution.

Imagine FDR demanding that all captured Nazi soldiers be proven guilty in an American criminal court or released. It's idiotic.

When detainees have been cleared, we have released them, and this has been going on since even before liberals began throwing this bogus little pity party for yet another U.S. enemy. We've also recaptured dozens of these needlessly released terrorists killing more of our troops since this lunacy began.

This is why liberals don't belong anywhere near positions of power. All they do is get more Americans killed while making sure we're popular among "allies" like France.
 
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GITMO should be closed, the Military Commissions Act should be repealed and Habeas Corpus needs to be strengthened. What type of country do we live in when our government throws people in a foreign prison in secret, without charges, and tortures them? This state is not America; it’s more like Nazi-Germany or Stalin’s Russia. I hope ‘what do we do with the detainees’ is not the only reason holding us back from demanding justice.
 
peepnklown said:
What type of country do we live in when our government throws people in a foreign prison in secret, without charges, and tortures them?
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One at war with militant Islam. And no, aggressive interrogations do not constitute torture. And no, denying foreign terrorists their non-existent criminal rights under our Constitution is in no way a travesty or a violation of the law.

Get a clue. :roll:

peepnklown said:
This state is not America; it’s more like Nazi-Germany or Stalin’s Russia.
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Now that the Constitution-trampling tyrants of the left (see the "Fairness" Doctrine, "Card Check," silencing news stations that question you, etc.) have taken over, yes.
 
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aquapub said:
And no, aggressive interrogations do not constitute torture.
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I liked how you tried to hide torture by added a pretty-label. Define ‘aggressive interrogation.’ What is water-boarding?
How do you know there are terrorists without a trial?
What evidence do you have they are terrorists? If you have such evidence please provide the documentation for the forum to read.
You are making them guilty without proving they are guilty.
If you believe humans are granted rights from a Constitution then it is you that needs to get a clue. You need to research natural rights and how they influenced the founders of our US Constitution.
aquapub said:
Now that the Constitution-trampling tyrants of the left…
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Yup, it’s only the so-called left that tramples our rights, the ‘right’ never does such things.
 
peepnklown said:
I liked how you tried to hide torture by added a pretty-label. Define ‘aggressive interrogation.’ What is water-boarding?
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Those of us able to actually comprehend the laws we read don't see correctly distinguishing torture from aggressive interrogation as "pretty labeling." It's called literacy.

peepnklown said:
How do you know there are terrorists without a trial?
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Nearly every single detainee was captured on the battlefield fighting with al Qaida to kill our troops-something I'm sure the partisan blogs spoon-feeding you these mass-produced partisan talking points failed to mention, I'm sure.

peepnklown said:
You are making them guilty without proving they are guilty.
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And FDR made captured German POWs "guilty" without proving they were guilty. We're at war here, Sparky. Try to keep up. ;)

peepnklown said:
If you believe humans are granted rights from a Constitution then it is you that needs to get a clue.
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This is Ray Charles lecturing Robin Hood on aim. The Constitution doesn't grant anyone anything. It is an enumeration of federal powers. The Bill of Rights is an official guarantee that the rights (given to us not by the Constitution, but by God, according to these Founders you have the audacity to try to cite) we already have would be honored by the federal government. A promise broken non-stop by liberals on every front for the last half-century at least.

And no, foreign terrorists are in no way offered any protections or rights under our Constitution at all. So yes, get a clue. :2wave:

peepnklown said:
You need to research natural rights and how they influenced the founders of our US Constitution.
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Pot, meet Kettle.

peepnklown said:
Yup, it’s only the so-called left that tramples our rights, the ‘right’ never does such things.
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Maybe you have paid an iota or two of attention to history. :lol:
 
Family Guy said:
SO you think that we do not have the ability to house them on military bases and prisons within the USA? Do you really think we're that weak? What are you afraid of?

So Rev...Keep it open or close it? I did not say close it tomorrow...you did. I said ASAP..Do you know what ASAP stands for?
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Gitmo is a US military base that has been there for over 100 years. It is a legitimate military installation own by the Navy. What difference does it make whether it is inside the 48 states?
 
Family Guy said:
SO you think that we do not have the ability to house them on military bases and prisons within the USA? Do you really think we're that weak? What are you afraid of?

So Rev...Keep it open or close it? I did not say close it tomorrow...you did. I said ASAP..Do you know what ASAP stands for?
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When you say Gitmo, remember that we're not closing a base, only a prison on the base.
 
Unless you have another facility to place these wackos in, other than in the US...then don't close it down....
 
JoeMama said:
Unless you have another facility to place these wackos in, other than in the US...then don't close it down....
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They don't have another place and they don't want one. That's the point. They want Islamic terrorists released. Islam (the aggressor) is a victim. America (the victim) is the aggressor. If we'd just try being nice to these justifiably angry Muslims, they would stop killing us.

Welcome to the simple-minded liberal fantasy land logic that brought us 9/11 and is now guiding all our federal policy.
 
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American said:
Gitmo is a US military base that has been there for over 100 years. It is a legitimate military installation own by the Navy. What difference does it make whether it is inside the 48 states?
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Apparently all the same rules of U.S. criminal justice are not applicable there.
 
aquapub said:
If we'd just try being nice to these justifiably angry Muslims, they would stop killing us.
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:wow: ....do you really think that?

Are you saying that they are angry because the America is doing something wrong?

Are you implying that 9/11 was "justified"?! Because after all, they are "justifiably angry" *sarcasm*

So America needs to be nice to terrorists?!...Or are you saying that because we don't 'treat them right' they are terrorists.


I get quite passionate when i get the impression that people are really missing a crucial idea.
 
bhkad said:
Apparently all the same rules of U.S. criminal justice are not applicable there.
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That's right. We aren't dealing with normal criminals.
We are dealing with people that some want to topple America's 'regime' as a country, as well as the whole western culture for that matter. And some of them are willing to drive a planes through American buildings to prove it
 
JoeMama said:
:wow: ....do you really think that?

Are you saying that they are angry because the America is doing something wrong?

Are you implying that 9/11 was "justified"?! Because after all, they are "justifiably angry" *sarcasm*

So America needs to be nice to terrorists?!...Or are you saying that because we don't 'treat them right' they are terrorists.


I get quite passionate when i get the impression that people are really missing a crucial idea.
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You are missing what pubby said. Go back and re-read his post and you'll catch the true meaning I think. :)
 
bhkad said:
You are missing what pubby said. Go back and re-read his post and you'll catch the true meaning I think. :)
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aquapub sorry for that, I got scared. I went on a rant...
forgive me for that misunderstanding i shouldve made sure I knew exactly what you are saying. :Oopsie
 
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