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Cell Phone while driving

Do you support a ban on cell phones while driving?

  • Yes, I support the ban

    Votes: 21 52.5%

  • No, I do not support the ban

    Votes: 19 47.5%
  • Total voters
    40
  • Poll closed .
Jerry said:
My post makes perfect sense when one notices the jester simile at the top of it and realizes that I'm satiring a major pro-abortion argument ;)

I appreciate you responses and I plan to use them when I encounter the "there's to many people on the planet" abortion argument again
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Using a post concerning cell phones to support [not support?] a pro abortion argument? yeah that makes about as much sense as your original post.

As to challenging other people in a public setting concerning tithes and faith works,

Mt 6:1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
Mt 6:2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Mt 6:3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
Mt 6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
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Perhaps instead of clinging to your bible you should spend more time reading it and avoid asking such offensive questions of people again in the future. Be sure to save this post for your future satire also.

Moe
 
rivrrat said:
How is it different than talking on a CB radio?
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:rofl It isn't and the reason I used rolf is you bring back and old memory. I had a friend of mine back in the late 70's that had a station wagon and he got into the CB craze. Within 6 months his wagon was dinged bent scraped up and had he to use bungee cords to hold the hood down because it was sprung from a head on collision. That is not even counting how many times he wound up stuck in a ditch.

Moe
 
moe said:
Using a post concerning cell phones to support [not support?] a pro abortion argument? yeah that makes about as much sense as your original post.
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= perfect sense. I'm glad we agree.

moe said:
As to challenging other people in a public setting concerning tithes and faith works,

Perhaps instead of clinging to your bible you should spend more time reading it and avoid asking such offensive questions of people again in the future. Be sure to save this post for your future satire also.

Moe
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No no, see, the jester simile means it's not a serious post...you get it?...you don't...oh well.
 
Jerry said:
= perfect sense. I'm glad we agree.



No no, see, the jester simile means it's not a serious post...you get it?...you don't...oh well.
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I take my beliefs seriously and you are not funny...you get it?...you don't...oh well.

Moe
 
rivrrat said:
How is it different than talking on a CB radio? Or talking to passengers - adults or children alike?
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The difference is that with a cell phone you have the sound RIGHT next in your ear. Directly in it with a hands free device. It's MUCH harder to ignore something directly in your ear than it is to ignore something that is comeing from the other side of the car or a speaker.

Heres a little test you can do. Get two chairs and set them a bit apart to simulate the inside of a car. Have someone sit in one and you sit in the other. Take a head set and set one side of it over your ear. Turn on some music from your player. Be it computer, cd player whatever. Put the sound to about 3 or the relative amount of sound that comes from a cell phone. Listen to the music and have a conversation with the person next to you. Record everything that is said with the person next to you. After about 20 mins worth of talking stop. Turn of the music take of the head set. Then play back what you recorded. See how much you can remember of the conversation.

Now repeat the test without the headset and have the music playing in the background like you would in a car while talking to someone. At the end replay the recording to see how much you remember of it.

Notice a difference? And thats without driving...
 
Kal'Stang said:
The difference is that with a cell phone you have the sound RIGHT next in your ear. Directly in it with a hands free device. It's MUCH harder to ignore something directly in your ear than it is to ignore something that is comeing from the other side of the car or a speaker.

Heres a little test you can do. Get two chairs and set them a bit apart to simulate the inside of a car. Have someone sit in one and you sit in the other. Take a head set and set one side of it over your ear. Turn on some music from your player. Be it computer, cd player whatever. Put the sound to about 3 or the relative amount of sound that comes from a cell phone. Listen to the music and have a conversation with the person next to you. Record everything that is said with the person next to you. After about 20 mins worth of talking stop. Turn of the music take of the head set. Then play back what you recorded. See how much you can remember of the conversation.

Now repeat the test without the headset and have the music playing in the background like you would in a car while talking to someone. At the end replay the recording to see how much you remember of it.

Notice a difference? And thats without driving...
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Apparently you've never taken a department call while carefully making a tight turn with a2 ton load 30 feet in the air; or worked a fast-food drive through where you have to memorize a few orders given over your headset while calling product while packing other orders while fixing an error on a front till.

Dead-end jobs have their uses, apparently teaching basic life skills is one of them.
 
Jerry said:
Apparently you've never taken a department call while carefully making a tight turn with a2 ton load 30 feet in the air; .
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An intelligent driver would wait until they had completed the turn and the vehicle was in a safe condition before answering the call.


Jerry said:
or worked a fast-food drive through where you have to memorize a few orders given over your headset while calling product while packing other orders while fixing an error on a front till.

Dead-end jobs have their uses, apparently teaching basic life skills is one of them.
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Which is why they use the repeat back method because they usually screw it up a little bit.

Moe
 
moe said:
An intelligent driver would wait until they had completed the turn and the vehicle was in a safe condition before answering the call.
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Oh flame, that's original :lol:

Apparently you've never been in that situation either. Operating power equipment is all feel and uses different parts of your brain then a spoken conversation. As long as one has enough neurological ram and mental processing power, it's no problem.

I had to do similar things while operating bridge cranes, only the loads were in excess of 2 tons and the operator had no choice but keep close proximity to other people around him.

I've never had an accident on any power equipment, so if that makes my unintelligent according to you, I'll take it.


moe said:
Which is why they use the repeat back method because they usually screw it up a little bit.

Moe
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Right...you have to do that while doing everything else..which has confused many a customer at the front counter who thought I was repeating their order from the front till back to them when I was in fact repeating the drive-through order back to the car at the speaker from memory.

When it came to correcting till errors, honestly I didn't read the keys I was pressing. I had done the same overrides etc so many times that is was 99% muscle memory.

Sometimes I would repeat back a drive though order while packing a front order, and the customer at the front would get pissy because they thought I was repeating their order and getting a lot of it wrong :lol:

Here I am doing many things at once and a customer who's doing nothing at all looses track of what's going on.

Add driving on top of that and it's a wonder these people get from point A to point B at all :)
 
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rivrrat said:
How is it different than talking on a CB radio? Or talking to passengers - adults or children alike?
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Don't know about the CW, however, you talk to people in the car they can see what is going on around you and when things get hairy, they know because they can see it and calm down. That isn't true when on the phone. I know from experience that dealing with my family in the car is not nearly as distracting as talking with someone on a cell phone is.
 
ludahai said:
Don't know about the CW, however, you talk to people in the car they can see what is going on around you and when things get hairy, they know because they can see it and calm down. That isn't true when on the phone. I know from experience that dealing with my family in the car is not nearly as distracting as talking with someone on a cell phone is.
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So, my 4 year old nephew knows when things "get hairy" and he calms down? LOL I don't think so. Hell, my 11 niece can't even figure that out.

So it's not a matter of talking being distracting at all then, anyway? It's a matter of knowing when to return 100% of your attention to driving. That sounds like it's based on the judgment of the driver, NOT the cellphone. I can, and do, tell the person on the cellphone to "hang on" or "I gotta go - *click*" if and when I need to focus 100% on driving. Just like I tell the people in the car with me to STFU when I need to do the same.

It has nothing to do with the cellphone.
 
What is so difficult about setting the cell-phone to just record when the man is busy with other tasks, such as driving or even making a meal ???
The callers should learn how to wait...
The cell phone, children in the back seat "misbehaving", so-called music on the radio, all can be distracting when driving.
Our drivers must learn to concentrate or not drive..
 
earthworm said:
What is so difficult about setting the cell-phone to just record when the man is busy with other tasks, such as driving or even making a meal ???
The callers should learn how to wait...
The cell phone, children in the back seat "misbehaving", so-called music on the radio, all can be distracting when driving.
Our drivers must learn to concentrate or not drive..
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It's a 3 hour drive from Rapid to Pier, and if the boss calls to change something, I need to know *before* I get there.
 
Just use a headset for crying out loud! End of story.
 
Jerry said:
No headset under a total ban :doh
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we can use them in CA but let me say that trying to get one untangled, plugged in and in your ear while your phone is ringing and you're on the freeway is not only next to impossible, but way more dangerous than picking something up and saying hello. I don't even bother with a hands-free, I just wait until I'm out of the freaking car or sneak a text message at a red light.
 
emdash said:
we can use them in CA but let me say that trying to get one untangled, plugged in and in your ear while your phone is ringing and you're on the freeway is not only next to impossible, but way more dangerous than picking something up and saying hello. I don't even bother with a hands-free, I just wait until I'm out of the freaking car or sneak a text message at a red light.
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Wait...since when do they have cords?

The only hands-free units I've ever seen are cordless transceivers that wear on one ear..someone calls and push the button on the unit...no fumbling...but even that can't be used under a total ban.
 
Jerry said:
Wait...since when do they have cords?

The only hands-free units I've ever seen are cordless transceivers that wear on one ear..someone calls and push the button on the unit...no fumbling...but even that can't be used under a total ban.
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well I got one that came with my phone presumably to use with the mp3 capacity and it's like earphones but it has a mouth thing with a button on it, so if you're already wearing them you just touch the button to answer the phone. the bluetooth ones are out of my price range atm.
 
emdash said:
well I got one that came with my phone presumably to use with the mp3 capacity and it's like earphones but it has a mouth thing with a button on it, so if you're already wearing them you just touch the button to answer the phone. the bluetooth ones are out of my price range atm.
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Nationalized hands-free units anyone?
 
Jerry said:
Nationalized hands-free units anyone?
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I'm down. I'm even willing to be taxed more on my wages so the government can afford to give me one for free. oh wait no, I'd rather pay my car off.
 
Jerry said:
No headset under a total ban :doh
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A 3 hour trip without rest stops ?
Only in a Mercedes-Benz .. I have done this..in a 17 year old 300D.

I don't think the use of a head-set is a distraction.

I do think that law-makers can be over-zealous to the extent of stupidy.
Laws must have expiration dates....saves work..
 
Jerry said:
It's a 3 hour drive from Rapid to Pier, and if the boss calls to change something, I need to know *before* I get there.
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Indeed. At my job in upstate WV, I frequently had to drive to FEMA HQ in DC for work. If plans changed, etc, I needed to know BEFORE I got there. One time in particular, they actually had me turn around and come back. Would have really sucked to have driven another 3.5 hrs and then 30 min on the metro for no reason whatsoever... and then come right back. Other times, they were giving me information about the application I was demonstrating for FEMA, or server status, etc, etc. Things I needed to know BEFORE getting there and looking like an idiot to the heads of FEMA.
 
emdash said:
I'm down. I'm even willing to be taxed more on my wages so the government can afford to give me one for free. oh wait no, I'd rather pay my car off.
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Well if you're being taxed for it it's not free :lol:
 
We'll see how far this ban goes.

As long as they don't ban my smoking while driving (they were actually proposing this.....) then I'm fine.

They did not quite ban cell-phone usage while driving here in Washington, however, if you get a ticket for any reason and are using your cell-phone during the violation your fine is doubled.
 
Shewter said:
As long as they don't ban my smoking while driving (they were actually proposing this.....) then I'm fine.

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They tried that here when a child was in the car. Not that would affect me since I do not smoke when non-smokers are in my car.
 
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