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Cell Phone while driving

Do you support a ban on cell phones while driving?

  • Yes, I support the ban

    Votes: 21 52.5%

  • No, I do not support the ban

    Votes: 19 47.5%
  • Total voters
    40
  • Poll closed .
creativedreams said:
Do you believe there should be a ban on cell phones while driving?
If this is done then fast food drive-ups should be banned because eating while driving is on the same plane (level).

This coincides with my belief of the "evolution of laws and the snowball effect"!
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As has been already mentioned before, using a cell phone while driving simply takes away attention from driving. That is a fact. I would even argue that the hands-free devices, do, in terms of attention given to the road, not solve the problem either. They just make sure you can have both hands on the wheel :doh

Even though I love talking on my cell phone while driving, I think some are not as adept as myself and may cause an accident :)
 
Jerry said:
By introducing these people to what a text message is, this scenario can be avoided.

See? Education, not legislation, is the answer.
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Jerry,


Do I detect some wry humor here?
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Wasn't the Railroad Engineer in Los Angeles a while back found to be text-messaging only a 22 seconds before his train crashed into another?
They've since issued an emergency order prohibiting the personal use of cellular communications devices while operating a freight or passenger train anywhere in California.

"Metrolink CEO David Solow told KCAL9 that engineers are not allowed to
have cell phones "within their grasp."

KCAL9 showed the text messages that Sanchez allegedly sent in the
moments leading up to the crash, which killed at least 25 people and left more than 45 more critically or seriously injured."
Here's More on this: EXCLUSIVE: Engineer In Deadly Metrolink Crash Sent Text Message Just Before Collision - cbs2.com
 
AuHtwoh64 said:
Jerry,


Do I detect some wry humor here?
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Wasn't the Railroad Engineer in Los Angeles a while back found to be text-messaging only a 22 seconds before his train crashed into another?
They've since issued an emergency order prohibiting the personal use of cellular communications devices while operating a freight or passenger train anywhere in California.

"Metrolink CEO David Solow told KCAL9 that engineers are not allowed to
have cell phones "within their grasp."

KCAL9 showed the text messages that Sanchez allegedly sent in the
moments leading up to the crash, which killed at least 25 people and left more than 45 more critically or seriously injured."
Here's More on this: EXCLUSIVE: Engineer In Deadly Metrolink Crash Sent Text Message Just Before Collision - cbs2.com
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Good point...if you can crash a train which can only go where the tracks lead it to go then how bad is it really for drivers of cars that use cell phones?
 
On 5 occasions, in the last year, I have seen very dangerous driving from people driving and talking on a cell phone.

once I was driving down a four lane street in my town, in Oregon, and I came upon a small pickup weaving in and out of my lane just ahead. I slowed down, so I would not come along side of the truck, as it was weaving. We came to a red light, and I came along side of the truck stopped for the light. There was a woman driving with the window down. She was talking on her cell phone and holding it to her ear with her left hand.

She was very angry and screaming at someone on the phone. she was crying and waving her arms angrily as she talked.

She acted like she had no awareness of others on the road. When the light changed, she shot ahead of me, and in the first 50 feet, she weaved into my lane four times. I pulled over, called the police on my cell phone, and gave them her liscense plate number.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Unfortenately there are too many people that think that their message is just too important to send via text message. You know the type of people that thinks that the world revolves around them? Doesn't matter how well you educate those type of people...(I could say more but I don't want to get banned...I'm selfish that way. :lol: )
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That is not the example I responded to, you are changing the goal posts.

A grocery list can be sent via text message. Problem solved.
 
AuHtwoh64 said:
Jerry,


Do I detect some wry humor here?
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I can't say what your detecting, but none was intended.

AuHtwoh64 said:
Wasn't the Railroad Engineer in Los Angeles a while back found to be text-messaging only a 22 seconds before his train crashed into another?
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Can you show that 1. the engineer and not a control center operates the switches and 2 that the text was contributory to the crash? I am well aware that the media :spin: that story so as to make you believe the text message was at fault, but is there any actual evidence?

AuHtwoh64 said:
They've since issued an emergency order prohibiting the personal use of cellular communications devices while operating a freight or passenger train anywhere in California.
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Unless there is evidence that the text message was contributory to the crash, this was nothing more than politicians covering their ass when their constituents demand the do something.

AuHtwoh64 said:
KCAL9 showed the text messages that Sanchez allegedly sent in the
moments leading up to the crash, which killed at least 25 people and left more than 45 more critically or seriously injured."
Here's More on this: EXCLUSIVE: Engineer In Deadly Metrolink Crash Sent Text Message Just Before Collision - cbs2.com
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Wow, a 4 word text was sent before the crash. You show coincidence only, not causation.

If the text message was significantly long, or if it were shown that the engineer was sending out many texts over several minutes prior to the crash, I might be inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to the allegation.

However, all you've shown so far is a single short message.
 
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ludahai said:
Only five in a year? I sometimes see five in a WEEK.
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When ever I drive to my mother-n-laws house which is 60 miles from where I live I normally see 1-3. Use to go there every other week at least. Thankfully the amount of times we've been going has been alot less lately....Not to say that I dislike my mom-n-law because I actually do like her. I just hate driving and my wife doesn't have her drivers license.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
I would support banning all cell phone use while driving if we also ban all those over the age of 60 from driving.



The problem here is that you would need to eliminate so many other things. No radio while driving. No conversations with passengers while driving. No driving while you are tired (studies show that extreme exhaustion is just as bad as driving while intoxicated). To me, anything that takes your hands off the wheel should be grounds for a violation. Anything else, no.
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This is the reason why I am against any ban...We simply do not have people with tolerance, with sense.....too many are safety nazis..
As we now have "hands free" ,any regulation would be silly.
Really want to cut down on accidents ?
Improve driver training; improve the motor vehicles; improve the highways and streets..
 
I really hate people who talk on cell phones and drive, but I don't support a new law against it. The police can pull us over for enough things already.
 
ludahai said:
Only five in a year? I sometimes see five in a WEEK.
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Could be an asian thing. We have the same problem in the Philippines. Lots of Filipino's like motor bikes. 125 cc types. Very common to see these folks tooling down the road steering with one hand and texting with other. Not even looking at the road. Highest traffic fatalities in the Philippines is motor bikes.

Of course just driving in the Phillipines is a bit risky compared to countries like the US where more stringent driving laws are enforced. Driving in the Philippines is a bit like just point and go.

Moe
 
earthworm said:
This is the reason why I am against any ban...We simply do not have people with tolerance, with sense.....too many are safety nazis..
As we now have "hands free" ,any regulation would be silly.
Really want to cut down on accidents ?
Improve driver training; improve the motor vehicles; improve the highways and streets..
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Tax deductable defensive driving class……or for those where proffer a Liberal solution: Nationalized defensive driving classes. :mrgreen:
 
moe said:
Could be an asian thing. We have the same problem in the Philippines. Lots of Filipino's like motor bikes. 125 cc types. Very common to see these folks tooling down the road steering with one hand and texting with other. Not even looking at the road. Highest traffic fatalities in the Philippines is motor bikes.

Of course just driving in the Phillipines is a bit risky compared to countries like the US where more stringent driving laws are enforced. Driving in the Philippines is a bit like just point and go.

Moe
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Well we have too many people on this planet already. I've heard some say that hundreds of thousands of people die every year in motor vehicle accidents, but if we make those accidents illegal, who’s going to care for those hundreds of thousands of people? Since it appears that you support various restrictions on motor vehicle operation, please tell us how much money you give to food banks and various charities to feed and house all these people. How many of these people have you invited to live in your home?
 
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....Has the human race become so retarded that it can not multi task anymore?
 
Jerry said:
Well we have too many people on this planet already. I've heard some say that hundreds of thousands of people die every year in motor vehicle accidents, but if we make those accidents illegal, who’s going to care for those hundreds of thousands of people? Since it appears that you support various restrictions on motor vehicle operation, please tell us how much money you give to food banks and various charities to feed and house all these people. How many of these people have you invited to live in your home?
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Well, besides the simple fact how much I or anybody else for that matter gives to anything is really none of your damn business not to mention besides being a totally asinine debate tactic,

1.Generally people that can afford motorized tranportation can afford to care for themselves.

2. Generally such people use motorized transportation to commute to work to earn money to feed their families and to the store to buy their family needs so how does increasing the risk to their own safety solve your problem
of who is going to care the survivors?

3. Your post really makes very little overall sense period.

Moe
 
earthworm said:
This is the reason why I am against any ban...We simply do not have people with tolerance, with sense.....too many are safety nazis..
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It isn't a matter of tolerance. It is a matter of road safety. You say "safety nazis" but talking on a cell phone while driving is a VERY dangerous combination.
 
moe said:
Could be an asian thing. We have the same problem in the Philippines. Lots of Filipino's like motor bikes. 125 cc types. Very common to see these folks tooling down the road steering with one hand and texting with other. Not even looking at the road. Highest traffic fatalities in the Philippines is motor bikes.

Of course just driving in the Phillipines is a bit risky compared to countries like the US where more stringent driving laws are enforced. Driving in the Philippines is a bit like just point and go.

Moe
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Taiwan is somewhere between the Philippines and the US in regards to responsibility on the road. People here are definately better than in the Philippines and most other Asian countries, but not nearly as good as those in Japan or Western Europe or in most parts of the US.
 
IMO, while you shouldn't be able to use normal cell phones while driving, hands-free phones should be fine.

The organization advocating for this blanket ban - that includes hands-free devices too - comes off as a fringe radical group akin to PETA, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were true.
 
Travelsonic said:
IMO, while you shouldn't be able to use normal cell phones while driving, hands-free phones should be fine.

The organization advocating for this blanket ban - that includes hands-free devices too - comes off as a fringe radical group akin to PETA, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were true.
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Except that studies looking into hands-free devices shows them to be just as dangerous as their hand held counterparts.
 
Hatuey said:
....Has the human race become so retarded that it can not multi task anymore?
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No.
It's just that there is a certain limit to human's ability to multi-task. As cars have gotten faster, there's a much different limit on the ability of a human to control it.
 
ludahai said:
It isn't a matter of tolerance. It is a matter of road safety. You say "safety nazis" but talking on a cell phone while driving is a VERY dangerous combination.
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How is it different than talking on a CB radio? Or talking to passengers - adults or children alike?
 
moe said:
Well, besides the simple fact how much I or anybody else for that matter gives to anything is really none of your damn business not to mention besides being a totally asinine debate tactic,

1.Generally people that can afford motorized tranportation can afford to care for themselves.

2. Generally such people use motorized transportation to commute to work to earn money to feed their families and to the store to buy their family needs so how does increasing the risk to their own safety solve your problem
of who is going to care the survivors?

3. Your post really makes very little overall sense period.

Moe
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My post makes perfect sense when one notices the jester simile at the top of it and realizes that I'm satiring a major pro-abortion argument ;)

I appreciate you responses and I plan to use them when I encounter the "there's to many people on the planet" abortion argument again
:mrgreen:
 
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