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Are Americans "allergic" to realities about America which are negative?

Are Americans "allergic" to negatives realities about the US?

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Maximus Zeebra

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Are Americans "allergic" and get "seizures" if someone mentions a reality about America which isnt positive?

Interesting question, because many Americans use the "victim" card every time someone says someone about America which isn't positive, and always brand it "anti-American", justifiably or unjustifiably. The question really is, do Americans call the "anti-American" "victim" card to easily?
 
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Maximus Zeebra said:
Are Americans "allergic" and get "seizures" if someone mentions a reality about America which isnt positive?

Interesting question, because so many Americans use the "victim" card every time someone says someone about America which isnt positve, and always brand it "anti-American", justifiably or unjustifiably. The question really is, do Americans call the "anti-American" "victim" card to easily?
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Most of us acknowledge that America, like all other countries, is not perfect. You'll notice that there are plenty of Americans, Europeans, and others who criticize the US from time to time, but don't get the "victim card." You get that reaction because you purposely SEEK that reaction.
 
Kandahar said:
Most of us acknowledge that America, like all other countries, is not perfect. You'll notice that there are plenty of Americans, Europeans, and others who criticize the US from time to time, but don't get the "victim card." You get that reaction because you purposely SEEK that reaction.
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Just answer the question in the poll please. I am not referring to myself, but generally.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Are Americans "allergic" and get "seizures" if someone mentions a reality about America which isnt positive?

Interesting question, because so many Americans use the "victim" card every time someone says someone about America which isnt positve, and always brand it "anti-American", justifiably or unjustifiably. The question really is, do Americans call the "anti-American" "victim" card to easily?
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"so many Americans...." is a misstatement. Some of America's worst critics come from within.
 
Many American's are critical of the US when it does something wrong. This is shown several ways. Protests is one. Another is through the general approval polls that are held about the US President. If what you said is actually true then I doubt that Bush would have gotten the all time lowest approval rating in American History. At least I think that no other president has had that low of a rating. Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. :)
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Thanks, had time to edit away the "so"..
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I meant in the sense that you feel many Americans are never critical of their country. There is often criticism of government, we don't sit around talking about how good we are. People complain, always.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Are Americans "allergic" and get "seizures" if someone mentions a reality about America which isnt positive?

Interesting question, because many Americans use the "victim" card every time someone says someone about America which isn't positive, and always brand it "anti-American", justifiably or unjustifiably. The question really is, do Americans call the "anti-American" "victim" card to easily?
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No. We're allergic to senseless drivel repeatedly constantly by certain posters on this board who are only seeking negative attention for their blathering.
 
I think Americans still operate very much under a sort of "I can insult them, but you can't" mentality. That is to say, we're very defensive against outsiders criticizing our society and our attitude especially when it comes from maybe very socialistic/fascist states. Americans themselves very much criticize our government and its activities, publicly and loudly. It's our government and we'll treat it the way we want and we'll complain when it needs to be complained about and we'll work in ways to fix problems (mostly) when they need to be fixed. But you'll find more resistance to criticism if the source of that criticism is a non-American source.
 
jallman said:
No. We're allergic to senseless drivel repeatedly constantly by certain posters on this board who are only seeking negative attention for their blathering.
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I guess you are referring to Americans on this forum who make themselves look like morons by constantly trolling posts rather than debate reality? Especially the people who blindly troll anyone who is not saying exclusively positive things about the US.:mrgreen:
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
I guess you are referring to Americans on this forum who make themselves look like morons by constantly trolling posts rather than debate reality? Especially the people who blindly troll anyone who is not saying exclusively positive things about the US.:mrgreen:
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Let's debate reality then.

First off, clarification:
What exactly do you mean by "allergic"? That's *****-footing around a term as I've ever seen before. Unless you seriously mean "Do Americans break out in hives when facing negativity?" I mean, aside from the terrible word choice ("allergic") I think every country breaks out in hives whenever someone responds to their way of life negatively. People understand that they are not perfect, but they sure as hell don't want anyone less than perfect remind them.

Tell me, are you talking about American's as the entirety of the people within the United States' or Americans as a term for the government. Those are two separate beasts.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Are Americans "allergic" and get "seizures" if someone mentions a realityIn whose opinion ? about America which isnt positive?

Interesting question, because many Americans use the "victim" card every time someone says someone about America which isn't positive, and always brand it "anti-American", justifiably or unjustifiably. The question really is, do Americans call the "anti-American" "victim" card to easily?
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Please cite an example or something that is honest and truthful..
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
I guess you are referring to Americans on this forum who make themselves look like morons by constantly trolling posts rather than debate reality? Especially the people who blindly troll anyone who is not saying exclusively positive things about the US.:mrgreen:
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I guess you find it hard to comprehend, then, because that is not at all what I said.
 
What does that tell you when you can correctly guess who started a thread just by reading the title? :doh
 
Most people find criticisms of the "other" easier to accept than those of their own community. Americans are no exception (as a generalisation).
But maximuss, you are the same about Europe.
It is a rare person who is as critical of self and of 'us' as they are of you and of 'them'
 
And maximuss, you'd do well to lay off the editorial language.
Allergic is a medical term.
You mean do they respond unreasonably negatively and dismiss the criticism unreasonably, do you not?

Say what you mean. Not the most sensationalist way you can think of to attempt to state it.
 
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Real Talk said:
And maximuss, you'd do well to lay off the editorial language.
Allergic is a medical term.
You mean do they respond unreasonably negatively and dismiss the criticism unreasonably, do you not?

Say what you mean. Not the most sensationalist way you can think of to attempt to state it.
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Are you under the impression the inflammatory language was accidental? That the purpose of this thread is for meaningful discussion?
 
Constructive, legitimate criticism is one thing. Endless hateful nation-bashing for its own sake is quite another.
 
scourge99 said:
Are you under the impression the inflammatory language was accidental? That the purpose of this thread is for meaningful discussion?
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I'm under the impression that such sensationalism applied by OP is unproductive, and I hope that he can grow to see it. That is all.

Oh, and I am also under the impression that he views my thoughts with a certain degree of respect (he has indicated this in the past), and that if he will listen to anyone in this thread on this matter, it is likely to be me.

Oh, one more thing. I'm under the impression English is his second language. And thus I would forgive failings in his diction.
 
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Take a look around and tell me how many threads you see started by American posters complaining about something they find their government is doing wrong regardless of political affiliation. I don't think I know a SINGLE American poster on this forum who hasn't bitched within the last week about something they find negative about America, it's government or the people in the government. Now tell me that we're allergic to the 'realities' about America.
 
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I think that the problem stems from the fact that most people who do engage in this kind of behavior often confuse patriotism with blind nationalism. A person who is patriotic loves their country, but can still find faults or room for improvement. Because of their love for their country they strive to try and make their country more ideal in their eyes. A nationalist will have blind devotion to their country and take any criticism, even if it is from someone who is patriotic, as traitorous or treasonous. It's really quite sad because since 9/11 those lines between patriotism and nationalism have kind of gotten blurred.
 
Americans don't like to hear negative spin about America.
the Bush Government has caused us to be disliked by our allies and hated by those who do not know us.

I don't think that all realities about America are negative.


God Bless America and save us from Idiots like Bush and Cheney.
 
jallman said:
I guess you find it hard to comprehend, then, because that is not at all what I said.
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Ohh, I guess your choice of words was so poor, that it was easy to just overlook what you wrote and assume what I wrote as an answer, since its so much closer to reality. :mrgreen:
 
scourge99 said:
Are you under the impression the inflammatory language was accidental? That the purpose of this thread is for meaningful discussion?
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Of course it is for meaningful debate.. There you go again and assume the worse.
 
Hatuey said:
Take a look around and tell me how many threads you see started by American posters complaining about something they find their government is doing wrong regardless of political affiliation. I don't think I know a SINGLE American poster on this forum who hasn't bitched within the last week about something they find negative about America, it's government or the people in the government. Now tell me that we're allergic to the 'realities' about America.
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I am clearly aware of that, but I was talking about "outside criticism", like you Americans constantly bash anything that isn't complete democracy and capitalism as something bad, obviously overlooking the flaws of those models itself.
Especially socialism gets a lot of Americans to bash on it, and communism.. Socialism is fantastic, communism has many positive traits that Americans could learn from..

But when you get criticized like this you always draw the "anti-American" card..
 
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