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Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

  • Captivate

    Votes: 6 9.4%
  • Convert

    Votes: 24 37.5%
  • Kill

    Votes: 14 21.9%
  • None of the Above

    Votes: 27 42.2%
  • Other (Specify)

    Votes: 9 14.1%

  • Total voters
    64
I am not trying to kid anyone. You don't have to believe it, but it's the truth.

Its not truth. Its your belief, that does not make it fact.
My opinion is that Christianity along with every religion in this world has been created and expanded by human beings.
Oh and Isiah isn't Christ nor the Son of God nor the trinity, the messiah or whatever other name you tag to him.
 
Followers do not create what or who they follow.

You're right about 'not who' but also 'not what'?

If it wasn't for Christ's followers, there would be no such thing as Christianity.
How else would Christianity have been created? God cannot create a religion. A religion is a following in the name of a god, not the creation of the god itself.
 
Islam is the sum of the actions taken in its name; for better or worse I see no reasonable option other than they wish death. Especially in light of the fact that a too large percentage of Muslims see the destruction of America as something other than absolute horror. Worse yet, are all to willing to burn our flags, kill our troops, ram our buildings and feel free to flaunt such feelings around at the UN, and their cultural soapboxes.
 
I don't want to point this out but in a war, soldiers are fair gain on both sides and what is wrong with burning flags? Go burn a Muslim one if it makes you feel better. I don't see why people get touchy over a flag being burned.
 
Our soldiers are not being killed in a war, they are being murdered by extremists who flaunt the fact they would as soon pillage Geneva as listen to any decadent western treaties signed there. There's a difference.

Also, they can burn the flag as much as they want but under no circumstances should someone believe it is viewed as a rational, educated and civilized approach to expressing disagreement. In short, burn it but don't expect for me to tolerate it and especially don't view it as some sort of... Peace offering, or whatever you think they feel when they burn it.
 
Hasn' burning things long been a sign of protest? I recall Harry Potter books being burned in US :roll:

You don't call Iraq war? You don't call Afghanistan war? Wth?
Im almost worried over what would you call a war.
As much as you hate it, any soldier is fair gain and a target in a war and lets face it, US has the upper hand so i see no reason why people say its not a war.
 
Islam is the sum of the actions taken in its name; for better or worse I see no reasonable option other than they wish death. Especially in light of the fact that a too large percentage of Muslims see the destruction of America as something other than absolute horror. Worse yet, are all to willing to burn our flags, kill our troops, ram our buildings and feel free to flaunt such feelings around at the UN, and their cultural soapboxes.

The sum of the actions taken in its name? That's quite ignorant, and it fails to take into account those Muslims who do not believe the extremism like that of Islamic extremists.

What about actions taken in the name of other religions?
 
Wrong. The bible says Jesus is God in the flesh and eternal. There is nothing about Mohammed or Islam in there.

No.. It does not... The old testament says nothing about that. Perhaps the new testament and the crazy first followers of Jesus describes him as such, but thats just blasphemy.
 
I am not trying to kid anyone. You don't have to believe it, but it's the truth.

What if Jesus was Satan in flesh? Who else would be a more ideal candidate in history to be a servant of Satan and mislead people away from the moral and values of the old testament?
 
You don't call Iraq war? You don't call Afghanistan war?

As much as you hate it, any soldier is fair gain and a target in a war and lets face it, US has the upper hand so i see no reason why people say its not a war.

They were wars, until the enemy started using human shields, hiding out in hospitals, refused to wear uniforms and systematically targeted non-combatants. Yes, I may have a old fashioned view of the word, where set-piece battles were the main concept behind it, but I fail to see how it matters. Is it a war? Is it not? Troops are getting killed because... Why? We let them democratically force us out? Because we have been nothing but the best and genial imperialist force in the whole of human history? Or is it because we happen to have a lot of A: Christianity, and B: Godless laws?

The point of the matter is, they are killing Americans through scripture; end of story.

The sum of the actions taken in its name? That's quite ignorant, and it fails to take into account those Muslims who do not believe the extremism like that of Islamic extremists.

What about actions taken in the name of other religions?

I honestly don't care what your precious feelings feel about me and my precious ignorance; so if you could just swipe them under the rug, I'd be obliged.

To read the Koran is to be a moderate Muslim, to understand the Koran is to be a extremist; I believe more Muslims exist who read and understand what is written there, then simply read it.

There's a simple reason I do not hate Christianity, assorted Asian religions, or even paleo/psuedo religions like Paganism or Wiccan. They are peaceful, they adabt and most importantly; they allow for freedom of thought where they exist.
 
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Its not truth. Its your belief, that does not make it fact.
My opinion is that Christianity along with every religion in this world has been created and expanded by human beings.
Oh and Isiah isn't Christ nor the Son of God nor the trinity, the messiah or whatever other name you tag to him.

It's the truth to millions of people lviing on this planet.

I don't know what you mean by "Isiah".
 
No.. It does not... The old testament says nothing about that. Perhaps the new testament and the crazy first followers of Jesus describes him as such, but thats just blasphemy.

Wrong. The Old Testament has many prophecies about the Messiah and him being God.

Old Testament prophecies of Jesus Christ

There sure have been millions and millions of crazy people throughout the history of the world in the last 2000 years then.
 
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Wrong. The Old Testament has many prophecies about the Messiah and him being God.

Old Testament prophecies of Jesus Christ

There sure have been millions and millions of crazy people throughout the history of the world in the last 2000 years then.

Doesnt mean its Jesus..

It also had many prophesies of fake such people, being servants of Satan proclaiming themselves God.
 
I honestly don't care what your precious feelings feel about me and my precious ignorance; so if you could just swipe them under the rug, I'd be obliged.

To read the Koran is to be a moderate Muslim, to understand the Koran is to be a extremist; I believe more Muslims exist who read and understand what is written there, then simply read it.

There's a simple reason I do not hate Christianity, assorted Asian religions, or even paleo/psuedo religions like Paganism or Wiccan. They are peaceful, they adabt and most importantly; they allow for freedom of thought where they exist.

Ok whoa, I didn't mean any offense. I'm just saying that categorizing Muslims as extremists is ignorant. I didn't mean to be rude.

I swear to you I'm not being sarcastic, but I told you it was ignorant so that maybe you could learn that what you were thinking is wrong, that is all. I just wanted to tell you the truth, not scrutinize you. :)
 
Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

From time to time I get indications there are people who believe the main goal of Islamic domination is to kill or convert us. I have long believed, however, that the true main goal is to captivate us.

This passage from a Front Page Magazine interview with Bill Warner, the director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI) and spokesman for PoliticalIslam.com illustrates the idea well:



The goal, I believe is to captivate us and much of the tax money that goes now to Washington to pay for defense, for example, would instead go to Mecca.

That's how I see it. But what about you?

What do you think?

From what I know, I would say none of the above because I think the main goal of Islam is to serve/worship God. I could be wrong.
 
Doesnt mean its Jesus..

It also had many prophesies of fake such people, being servants of Satan proclaiming themselves God.

Those are prophecies of the Messiah and Jesus is the one Christians believe is the Messiah.

Jesus was the one who said there would be many fakes.

You're very confused. That's okay. I'm here to help.
 
Ok whoa, I didn't mean any offense. I'm just saying that categorizing Muslims as extremists is ignorant. I didn't mean to be rude.

I swear to you I'm not being sarcastic, but I told you it was ignorant so that maybe you could learn that what you were thinking is wrong, that is all. I just wanted to tell you the truth, not scrutinize you. :)

It's not ignorant to believe the Koran is a book of hate and murder. That's a fact. That's the truth. I don't know how else you could interpret "do not make friends with Christians and Jews" to be anything other than hate. When it says to behead the infidel, I don't know how you can take that any way but murder. The muslims running around chopping people's heads off and murdering people are getting it right from their koran. They aren't making this stuff up.

Looks to me the ignorance would be coming from your direction.
 
Wrong. The bible says Jesus is God in the flesh and eternal. There is nothing about Mohammed or Islam in there.

Had Jesus said that he is God, I'm the God, Iam the lord ?
 
God created Christianity. A man created Islam.

God created christianity, Christians follow the bible, bible testaments were made by human.

I believe that the old testaments were from God true until you Tampered those testaments.

Now tell me which part of the new testaments are from God ?
 
Those are prophecies of the Messiah and Jesus is the one Christians believe is the Messiah.

Jesus was the one who said there would be many fakes.

You're very confused. That's okay. I'm here to help.

So you dont think Jesus Christ is the ideal candidate in history to be the son of Satan(rather than son of God)? Who else would be better suited to lead people astray and succeed so hugely with it?
 
It's not ignorant to believe the Koran is a book of hate and murder.

Like how we do have a "bit" of murdering you do have, its not my problem that its an old testaments or sth. Its still a part of a bible.

That's a fact. That's the truth. I don't know how else you could interpret "do not make friends with Christians and Jews" to be anything other than hate.

you even hadn't bothered yourself to look for the real meaning of this verse, It says "don't take the Christians and Jews as a crown for you", that verse urges Muslims to catch tied to their own religion, this got nothing to do with hatred, and how could Islam tell us to hate Jews and Christians if he told us you can marry, eat and coexist with them peacefully

When it says to behead the infidel, I don't know how you can take that any way but murder. The muslims running around chopping people's heads off and murdering people are getting it right from their koran. They aren't making this stuff up.

Same goes to bible, remeber the verses ?
 
It's not ignorant to believe the Koran is a book of hate and murder. That's a fact. That's the truth. I don't know how else you could interpret "do not make friends with Christians and Jews" to be anything other than hate. When it says to behead the infidel, I don't know how you can take that any way but murder. The muslims running around chopping people's heads off and murdering people are getting it right from their koran. They aren't making this stuff up.
Yeah but what you did was categorize ALL Muslims that way. Which is ... not good. I have many Muslim friends to whom I ask "do you believe in the murder/extermination of all non-Muslims" and they say "definitely not." So, that disproves your argument that all Muslims are how you said they are.


Looks to me the ignorance would be coming from your direction.

Maybe from my direction, but that's just TruthDetector behind me. Its not from me. :rofl
 
Those are prophecies of the Messiah and Jesus is the one Christians believe is the Messiah.

Jesus was the one who said there would be many fakes.

You're very confused. That's okay. I'm here to help.

Not really.. All those prophesies you are talking about is just taken out of context and in hurry put up on a web page.

Jesus did maybe also warn about it, but the old testament certainly warns against it several places, against people like Jesus.
 
It's not ignorant to believe the Koran is a book of hate and murder.

Actually its a big ignorant to judge on verses without knowing the real meaning or what the verse aims to, and won't tires yourself to get the real meanings.
Koran contains killing verses, but if you looked whom to kill, Its the Athiests and pagans who tortured , harmed and mocked our prophet, like how the bible said that too.I can categorize those verses as defending ones.
 
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