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Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

  • Captivate

    Votes: 6 9.4%

  • Convert

    Votes: 24 37.5%

  • Kill

    Votes: 14 21.9%

  • None of the Above

    Votes: 27 42.2%

  • Other (Specify)

    Votes: 9 14.1%
  • Total voters
    64
bhkad said:
Don't go changin to try an' please me. I like you just the way you are. :)
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hh, the only thing I liked about this song, is the video clip :mrgreen:

the moral is that we hate the only ones who mocks God and religion, as i saw from some members here, but some memebers that we'd nearly became dudes, recently found that they are Athiests, and that changed nothing :2dancing:
 
Ahmed Shaheen said:
Any questions, am ready
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Actually I don't own a Koran anymore, so I cannot really point you to where I am actually talking about.. I will find my little notes one day, certainly.

I do remember it was mainly in the first 5 chapters, which in real meaning of the Koran would be the last 5 chapters(if I have understood it correct)..
 
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bhkad said:
Which is Islam's Main Goal: To Captivate, Convert or Kill Us?

From time to time I get indications there are people who believe the main goal of Islamic domination is to kill or convert us. I have long believed, however, that the true main goal is to captivate us.

This passage from a Front Page Magazine interview with Bill Warner, the director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI) and spokesman for PoliticalIslam.com illustrates the idea well:



The goal, I believe is to captivate us and much of the tax money that goes now to Washington to pay for defense, for example, would instead go to Mecca.

That's how I see it. But what about you?

What do you think?
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How will they accomplish anything when where ever they go there is, death and ,rape,and pillage, and genocide,and destruction. The most inteligent amongst their kind support these activities through their relationships with those who do these things.The direct experience with Islam is that they hate.,they do little more...,hate and blow up the other mans things.When the good loveing president of Iran sets off his nuclear bomb in Israel the rest of the world needs to concider the benefit of eliminateing their scourge.Not all extinctions are entirely negative.The nazi is on the verge.Lets put Islam on the list.Imagine the trillions and trillions of dollars to be saved,when there would no longer be the need to police the mongrel dog.ALL I SEE IS HATE FROM ISLAM...HATE AND KILLING.
 
Passive Agressive

"Passive Agressive"
Ahmed Shaheen said:
Ok, I wont comment about Warner, but I will tell you something, I want you to ask any Christian or Jew in here. If he told you that we "Muslims" hold any kind of aggression towards them, you are the winner then.
Add, there are no taxes taken from them.
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Disturbing, again, is the conciliatory respect for abrahamic religions with a convenient omission of non-abrahamic religions.

The millet system is common and involves the registration of religious affiliation with the reigning government authority.
If the reigning government authority is mandated to follow ishmaelism (if located outside of hejaz it is fictional ishmaelism), it is more often than not highly restrictive in the allowance of competitive religious observances (proselytizing, construction of worship sites, outlawed entirely, etc.).

The FIRST AMENDMENT of the US rejects that notion outright!
mon and involves the registration of religious affiliation with the reigning government authority.
If the reigning government authority is mandated to follow ishmaelism (if located outside of hejaz it is fictional ishmaelism), it is more often than not highly restrictive in the allowance of competitive religious observances (proselytizing, construction of worship sites, outlawed entirely, etc.).
The FIRST AMENDMENT of the US rejects that notion outright!

What is your opinion of hinduism?
 
Rodney said:
How will they accomplish anything when where ever they go there is, death and ,rape,and pillage, and genocide,and destruction. The most inteligent amongst their kind support these activities through their relationships with those who do these things.The direct experience with Islam is that they hate.,they do little more...,hate and blow up the other mans things.When the good loveing president of Iran sets off his nuclear bomb in Israel the rest of the world needs to concider the benefit of eliminateing their scourge.Not all extinctions are entirely negative.The nazi is on the verge.Lets put Islam on the list.Imagine the trillions and trillions of dollars to be saved,when there would no longer be the need to police the mongrel dog.ALL I SEE IS HATE FROM ISLAM...HATE AND KILLING.
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Let's recognize the difference between religious Islam and political Islam.

Political Islam is the culprit that Bill Warner specifies.

Mission

Islam is a cultural, religious and political system. Only the political system is of interest to kafirs (non-Muslims) since it determines how we are defined and treated. The Islamic political system is contained in the Koran, the Hadith (the traditions of Mohammed) and his biography, the Sira.

Our mission is to educate the world about political Islam, its founder Mohammed, his political doctrine and his god, Allah.
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Political Islam // Mission | Educating the World | Islamic Doctrine
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
And all some other people see from the US is exactly the same thing.
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In both cases the tip of the spear represents the will of the many.

The essential difference is the systems represented. Political Islam or liberal Democracy.

Both have pluses and minuses.

Our system is better.
 
Innuendo At Every Turn

"Innuendo At Every Turn"
Ahmed Shaheen said:
Excuse me, did I say something against you ?
The only Athiests we are Against are the ones who Mock your religion.
We cant take those mockings and stay like nothing happened, we do have Athiests here, but they do show respect to the religion, thats why they are living in peace now, and I hadnt said that my religion is the best of all, Its like all religions.
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Please, exemplify that which would be identified as mocking of the ishmaelism religion.

Remain mindful, that it is assumed (at least by myself) that any examples refer to areas external to the city state of hejaz.
That is (IMO), the quraysh peoples of hejaz are free to practice their city state laws according to their religion, for the preservation of the patriarchal lineage of ishmaelism, and are to be afforded objective indifference to cultural manners which may be inconsistent with extrinsic personal practice or approval.
Objective indifference to laws under ishmaelism are not afforded to those areas external to the city state of hejaz.
 
walleye said:
I agree. Islam is violent and more than violent. It is hateful and intolerant of others. My sister couldn't get a cab at the airport in Minneapolis because she had a bottle of liquor. Somali muslim cab drivers.

I think many westerners have realized the threat of Islam.
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:roll:
I was not serious but whatever.

Haha, if its a private owned cab, tough luck. Go to the next one. Why is she doing brandishing the bottle around anyway?

I doubt it, it seems to me its the rabid right wingers who recognize this apparent "threat"
 
Rodney said:
How will they accomplish anything when where ever they go there is, death and ,rape,and pillage, and genocide,and destruction. The most inteligent amongst their kind support these activities through their relationships with those who do these things.The direct experience with Islam is that they hate.,they do little more...,hate and blow up the other mans things.When the good loveing president of Iran sets off his nuclear bomb in Israel the rest of the world needs to concider the benefit of eliminateing their scourge.Not all extinctions are entirely negative.The nazi is on the verge.Lets put Islam on the list.Imagine the trillions and trillions of dollars to be saved,when there would no longer be the need to police the mongrel dog.ALL I SEE IS HATE FROM ISLAM...HATE AND KILLING.
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ALL I SEE
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I will ask the usual question : had you coexisted with Muslims before, of course no, because this will never be your answer if yes.
 
Ahmed Shaheen said:
indirect offend, ok, I will ask you again : had you ever coexisted with Muslis before ?
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No and I don't want to. I prefer freedom and health. Islam is a cancer. It leads to death and destruction. There is nothing positive for civilization and culture in Islam. It is a murderous cult. It is the spawn of the devil.
 
Ahmed Shaheen said:
Then, you cant judge on us according for some "hearings"
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I am judging on what I have seen and what I have read in the Koran, not what I have heard. Let me ask you a question and please answer.

Do you believe violence is justified to further the cause of Islam.
 
walleye said:
I am judging on what I have seen and what I have read in the Koran, not what I have heard. Let me ask you a question and please answer.

Do you believe violence is justified to further the cause of Islam.
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With some people, yes.
 
Ahmed Shaheen said:
I will ask the usual question : had you coexisted with Muslims before, of course no, because this will never be your answer if yes.
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This reminds me of one of those mathematics problems or deductive reasoning situation.

If you live amongst Muslims and all those Muslims seem well moderate and yet all Islamic terrorists are Muslims, what must one conclude?
 
walleye said:
That is why I am against Islam. You have just admitted violence is part of your religion. You reap what you sow. You have no argument.
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In war situations, yes its needed.
 
Ahmed Shaheen said:
In war situations, yes its needed.
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That is not what I asked you. I asked you if you condone violence to further the cause of Islam and you said yes with some people. Who determines who the people are that it is okay to murder? Your religion is evil. Any religion that justifies violence to further the cause of that religion is evil in my opinion. That is not God. That is the devil. You are being deceived along with millions of others.
 
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walleye said:
That is not what I asked you. I asked you if you condone violence to further the cause of Islam and you said yes with some people. Who determines who the people are that it is okay to murder? Your religion is evil. Any religion that justifies violence to further the cause of that religion is evil in my opinion. That is not God. That is the devil. You are being deceived along with millions of others.
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People who harms us in anyway deserve to die, whats wrong for that to be legal in a religion ?
 
walleye said:
How did the 3000 people in the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and on 4 passenger jets on 9/11 harm muslims?
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All of Muslims Denounced those horrible acts, not because they are done by Muslims that means that Muslims are terrorists or something, Binladen is our first enemy because he is the one responsible of Distorting the Image of Islam with that argument "We are killing in the name of Allah" , here am telling you binladen, you are a ****in moron.

Concerning the passengers, According to witnesses in the hotel where the terrorist slept before their attack, they called for "Whores" in their last night, that mean that they'd commited "adultery" which is the biggest sins in Islam, I will look soon for the source. In my opinion, wether they'd slept with whores or not, they still are hated by Muslims for Distorting the Image of us as a Muslims.

And about the 3000 that had been killed, they were containing Muslims (how ever their number was) and of course the 4 terrorists knew that well, in which verse of Islam had they been told to kill other Muslims.
 
walleye said:
That is why I am against Islam. You have just admitted violence is part of your religion. You reap what you sow. You have no argument.
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So you are assessing a faith with over a million members by only looking at the negative aspects of their faith... Interesting. What faith do you subscribe to? Maybe I should turn a blind eye to the good deeds of your faith while focusing solely on the blemishes and barbarism.
 
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