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What Are Our Reasons That We Choose Not To Use Illegal Drugs

Why have you decided not to use illegal drugs?

  • Because I hear horror stories about addiction to them

    Votes: 12 23.5%

  • Because I know people personally who have suffered from addiction.

    Votes: 17 33.3%

  • Because I am perfectly happy and serene without them (If it ain't broke...)

    Votes: 26 51.0%

  • Because the consequences of their being illegal make life miserable for addicts

    Votes: 8 15.7%

  • Simply because they are illegal

    Votes: 10 19.6%

  • Other (specify in the thread if you would like)

    Votes: 19 37.3%
  • Total voters
    51
Maximus Zeebra said:
So you think the addicts of cocaine are worse off and that cocaine have a worse effect on society than crack?
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Again I am not talking "snorting" a little cocaine. I am talking smoking as well as injecting. Both contribute to crime etc as badly.

The difference is smoking crack is easier than shooting it. So it is by a huge margin more prevalent.

Maximus Zeebra said:
And you think that people more easily can remain successful if they start using crack instead of cocaine?
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I would suspect if they are just snorting no. If they are mainlining it, is the same.

Maximus Zeebra said:
You believe cocaine has a more dramatic negative effect on mind and body than crack? And you think cocaine is more addictive than crack?
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They are the same drug and effect the mind exactly the same way. The difference is in the "rush" you get initially.

If you inject cocaine or smoke crack the results are almost identical.
 
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People bent on a slow suicide will use harmful drugs. The slow suicide is the part that they evidently disagree with........but their intelligence and self esteem are lacking...

My reason ?
Self preservation.

The cause of the problem ?
One of many reasons - lousy, unloving parents...
 
RightinNYC said:
Do some people take drugs as an escape? Of course, just like some people overeat, play video games, have affairs, or debate online as escapes from their day to day life.
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But to intentionally introduce toxins into your body for an artificial high....:roll:
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Wow, nice! :applaud

I cant run marathons yet. I smoked for 6 years, quit about 3 years ago. I am almost back at the health I should have been if I never started smoking..
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Congrats on quitting smoking.

I have promised myself that I am going to attempt and complete a marathon(in the first attempt) before I am 30(5 years).. I still have some way to go.. I frequently run 5kms but have a probably max capacity atm at around 10km. I am quite big, 183cm and 83kg, which will make it even harder for me(marathon)..
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That is the great thing about running. Everyone can set their own goals. I know I will never be an elite marathoner, however, getting under three hours is what makes me happy. Frankly, I am a much better 10K runner, but I enjoy the marathons more. I am better built for longer races being only 175cm and 65kg. Still, you can do it. Giving up the cancer stick is the best first step.

Nothing like the feeling after great a workout is there? Capoeira is my favorite.
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I love getting out on the open streets for a 100km bike ride or a two hour swim in the pool. And the sleeping is great afterward too. Exercise actually helps people to get the good sleep that they need.
 
scourge99 said:
You are missing out on unique experiences. My life isn't inadequate. I used to do drugs (damn job) as a way to have fun. No different than sky diving, vacationing, watching a movie, wii bowling, or enjoying the company of friends. The difference is that when I'm high the simplest things are hysterical and entertaining.
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There is a difference. Those drugs are toxins to the body. Sky diving (while dangerous), vacationing, watching a movie, etc. does not involve the deliberate introduction of toxins into the body.
 
EgoffTib said:
Finally, someone with a valid reason not to do drugs. I wanted to be in law enforcement, but I am an extremely open and honest person.
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You mean wanting to be healthy and prepare yourself for competitive marathons and triathlons is NOT a valid reason?
 
Scourge and Ego may fit into the shortness of intellect/low self esteem category.. ..one or both.......

A man should see things as they are, without the "coloration due to drugs".
 
Tucker Case said:
Seeing blackdog's view more clearly now, I think most would agree that smoking or injecting cocaine is worse than snorting it.

The same is true of Heroin.

All varients are probably a bad idea, though.
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Another perspective on it, though, is that snorting anything is incredibly harmful and damaging to one's nose and sinuses, and- depending on the purity of the drug- can eat a hole in one's septum or literally rot one's nose off one's face pretty damned quick.
If one is scrupulous about using clean, sharp points, injection can arguably be less detrimental to the body than snorting, as far as permanent damage goes.
And certainly smoking is physiologically less damaging than snorting. Inarguably.
Snorting is a really bad way to ingest narcotics, and I've always been protective of my pretty face. I didn't want to hurt my nose. Didn't care as much about my arms, obviously.

Anyway, I don't regret anything, but i'm glad it's all behind me now.
I know I'll never do any kind of drugs again, but I'm not sorry I did it, if that makes any sense.
 
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1069 said:
Anyway, I don't regret anything, but i'm glad it's all behind me now.
I know I'll never do any kind of drugs again, but I'm not sorry I did it, if that makes any sense.
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It came through with crystal clarity. :clap:
 
ludahai said:
There is a difference. Those drugs are toxins to the body.
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And these toxins are guaranteed to do what? You going to argue that a single hamburger is going to clog my arteries and give me a heart attack too? You are exaggerating the toxicity and risk of some substances don't you think?
 
earthworm said:
Scourge and Ego may fit into the shortness of intellect/low self esteem category.. ..one or both.......
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And why is that? Please give me the full chain of reasoning for such a profound conclusion that is obviously so self-evident to you that it requires no elaboration.

earthworm said:
A man should see things as they are, without the "coloration due to drugs".
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Opinion noted. Perhaps you should abandon ill supported paranoia, fear, and pride and dare to see things from a different perspective.
 
scourge99 said:
And these toxins are guaranteed to do what? You going to argue that a single hamburger is going to clog my arteries and give me a heart attack too? You are exaggerating the toxicity and risk of some substances don't you think?
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Your point is?

Are you denying that these drugs are toxic? I don't understand why people injest such toxins deliberatly into the body having no other useful purpose.

Before you bring up that hamburger reference again, a single hamburger is NOt toxic and on the RARE times I DO eat hamburgers, I use very low-fat beef.
 
ludahai said:
Your point is?
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I don't worry about getting struck by meteors?

ludahai said:
Your point is?
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My point is that some drugs aren't going to have much if any effect in the long or short term as long as they are used in moderation.

ludahai said:
Are you denying that these drugs are toxic? I don't understand why people injest such toxins deliberatly into the body having no other useful purpose.
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We ingest lots of "toxins" everyday. The preservatives in your food, the dirt, smoke, and fumes in the air, the cleaning chemicals all over our cities. As long as you do not excessively expose yourself there is little to worry about. I'm not so paranoid as to think a little bit of extra "toxin" in my day is going to be crippling or even make a blip on the radar of my body. Its not like its anywhere close to inhaling chlorine gas or drinking bleach. Like I said, you seem to be exaggerating the fear and risks associated with moderate or light drug use.

ludahai said:
Before you bring up that hamburger reference again, a single hamburger is NOt toxic
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Yet a single joint is?

ludahai said:
and on the RARE times I DO eat hamburgers, I use very low-fat beef.
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That is great. I hope that works for you. As for me I come from a long line of long lived ancestors. We average to live into our 90's assuming we don't drink or eat ourselves to death. Good genes go a long way but anyone can destroy themselves if they overindulge in anything. Moderation is key.
 
I know I'm a year late, but my answer is simple. The desire was never strong enough. Was there curiosity? Yea, but I'm an overthinker - I'd picture myself yrs down the road not being able to get off drugs b/c I had become addicted. That was enough to keep me from trying. Never even tried weed.
 
earthworm said:
People bent on a slow suicide will use harmful drugs. The slow suicide is the part that they evidently disagree with........but their intelligence and self esteem are lacking...
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Put on some clothes... your naivete is showing.

My reason ?
Self preservation.
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Good reason.

The cause of the problem ?
One of many reasons - lousy, unloving parents...
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Again, another opinion stated as fact. That is a poor debate tactic to say the least.
 
earthworm said:
Scourge and Ego may fit into the shortness of intellect/low self esteem category.. ..one or both......
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We can agree to disagree. You have yet to make any form of argument involving facts. What category does that put you in? The "I do not understand something, so I will lash out at it and make opinionated generalizations" category?

A man should see things as they are, without the "coloration due to drugs".
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According to you. Again, your opinion is not a fact, as much as you would like to believe otherwise.
 
ludahai said:
You mean wanting to be healthy and prepare yourself for competitive marathons and triathlons is NOT a valid reason?
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There are drugs that you could partake in which would not have hindered your ability to run marathons or compete in triathlons. So, in my opinion, his reason seemed more valid to me. I should not have said it was the only valid reason. That was stupid of me.
 
ludahai said:
Your point is?

Are you denying that these drugs are toxic?
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You do realize that aspirin is toxic, right? Ibuprofen? Aleve?

I don't understand why people injest such toxins deliberatly into the body having no other useful purpose.
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You have deemed them useless. Just because you see no merit in the use of hallucinogens/entheogens/psychedelics does not mean that others do not see a useful purpose. I have used psychedelics to fulfill my desire to experience the impossible. It has given me a profoundly more insightful perspective on life, the human condition and love. If that is not useful, then I have no clue what the term "useful" actually means.
 
EgoffTib said:
There are drugs that you could partake in which would not have hindered your ability to run marathons or compete in triathlons. So, in my opinion, his reason seemed more valid to me. I should not have said it was the only valid reason. That was stupid of me.
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Care to identify them? Ever gone through drug testing through an athletics organization?
 
EgoffTib said:
You do realize that aspirin is toxic, right? Ibuprofen? Aleve?
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And - how often do I take them? ALMOST NEVER and not without a doctor's advice because of the fear of testing positive for banned substances.

You have deemed them useless. Just because you see no merit in the use of hallucinogens/entheogens/psychedelics does not mean that others do not see a useful purpose. I have used psychedelics to fulfill my desire to experience the impossible. It has given me a profoundly more insightful perspective on life, the human condition and love. If that is not useful, then I have no clue what the term "useful" actually means.
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Didn't say that they were useless. Just expressing my personal disdain for people who feel that they have to have these things in their lives.
 
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