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OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for peace ?

Is Israel still seeking for peace ? Read the post below :

  • No

    Votes: 26 37.7%
  • Yes

    Votes: 43 62.3%

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Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

I could care less who is more believable. I do, however, care that we support Israel. Let the idiots blow themselves to pieces, we should have no involvement.

We really do not have much involvement. We just tend to favor non-terrorist countries over those dominated by terrorists.
 
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We really do not have much involvement. We just tend to favor non-terrorist countries over those dominated by terrorists.

Going off of the definition for the term "terrorist", Israel and the US are both terrorist nations. I'll grab the guns, we've got a war on terror to fight. ;)
 
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. I'll grab the guns
No, no, I'll get them, I'm a good friend of Palin. She gets me 30% off her rifle shop. She claims her rifles are meant to shoot bore, moose, and sexist liberals.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

I'd rather live in Israel than in Gaza or the West Bank and the reasons are obvious. Tell me why you'd rather live in Gaza or the West Bank.

Please start making sense.
 
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I simply don't believe that you do. If you were fully aware, you would have a better sense of perspective when it comes to Hamas. But you don't.

Personally I think he has very good perspective for an American. Most are blind apologetics and forget the great wrongs done against the Palestinians which are still be done. At least he doesn't try and gloss over it all and pretend the Palestinians are just evil and random aggressors.

On believability I don't see why either is more believable. Hamas are terrorists and Israel has been aggressing against the Palestinians for more than half a century.
 
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That is a debate for another time, that requires an in depth study of what goes behind closed doors. That, frankly, none of us knows right now. Because I don't think anyone here knows whats going on in all Islamic schools.

Man dont make it that big. Our Curriculums are already checked by the Minstry of Education under Strict laws.

"unneeded" foreign inspectors comes rarely to check our cirriculums, unfortunately they are allowed to do it as a "Courtesy" for the embassy they came from which of course is almost US embassy.

For not showing disrespect to us they say that they are just checking the "evolution" of the cirriculums in the area and like always will find nothing.

In this case I do blame the MOE for letting them to get in, But sometimes I think that the MOE do that to show for them : " We got nothing to hide, you can come and check whenever you like" !

Whatever, thanks God I finished that damn school :) .
 
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Israel's been working on that by expanding their country over the last 60 years to three times it's original size. I think it is quite hilarious when people then wonder why the Palestinians are upset.

They were upset when Israel became a nation. There was never a nation named "Palestine". There is no such thing as a "Palestinian". They are Arabs. Arafat was an Egyptian. Their "land" is no more their land than it is my land. I don't fall for the fascist propaganda.

You're all been had... there are no "Palestinian People!
 
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Going off of the definition for the term "terrorist", Israel and the US are both terrorist nations. I'll grab the guns, we've got a war on terror to fight. ;)

No, we are not.

That is not correct.
 
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Please start making sense.

You didn't answer my question. I said the "Pals" would be better off living under the Israeli government and you said I was wrong. You have yet to explain why it is wrong. Telling me to start making sense is not a debate. You said I was wrong. Now tell me why.
 
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I heard many people saying that the next ellection will be better, once Hamas is out of the government, Israel won't have any piece of argument to strike or to Blockade Gaza or any other Area .

I wish someone could illustrate that to them in some way they would understand.

I have never had a dog that pooped around his dog food or bed, maybe it is instinct or maybe dogs are smarter than the average...

If Hamas had not pooped in Gaza’s bed and dish along the 1967 border--Gaza could have had the yard free and clear as a noble experiment and proof their breed can live as man’s best friend--the poop would not be sending flies up the nose when they are hungry or sleepy.

Maybe, some other illustration would be appropriate...I am going to get in trouble for the flies...
 
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I wish someone could illustrate that to them in some way they would understand.

I have never had a dog that pooped around his dog food or bed, maybe it is instinct or maybe dogs are smarter than the average...

If Hamas had not pooped in Gaza’s bed and dish along the 1967 border--Gaza could have had the yard free and clear as a noble experiment and proof their breed can live as man’s best friend--the poop would not be sending flies up the nose when they are hungry or sleepy.

Maybe, some other illustration would be appropriate...I am going to get in trouble for the flies...

True, but the act that they and there families are killed is jamming the Idea you are talking about (That Hamas is responsible for what they are in), so all what controlls their minds is revenge, which cannot be done without Hamas.
Actually, I cant blame them, they need a super x 10000 illustrate to leave this Idea :shock:
 
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You didn't answer my question. I said the "Pals" would be better off living under the Israeli government and you said I was wrong. You have yet to explain why it is wrong. Telling me to start making sense is not a debate. You said I was wrong. Now tell me why.

Because they want their own gov't. Even if the EU was actually good materially for Britain that wouldn't make it better for us to live under it because it would destroy our national sovereignty.
 
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Because they want their own gov't. Even if the EU was actually good materially for Britain that wouldn't make it better for us to live under it because it would destroy our national sovereignty.

The "Pals" never had a "national sovereignty". Britain has been a nation for hundreds of years. There has never been a Palestinian nation.

Your analogy is wrong.
 
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He was born in Cairo man.

Dude , the system here differs than yours, In the US once you are born In there, you can have the nationality, In Egypt, your are born from Palestini parents, you are palestini .
 
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The "Pals" never had a "national sovereignty". Britain has been a nation for hundreds of years. There has never been a Palestinian nation.

Your analogy is wrong.

No it isn't, you are being silly. The fact they never had a state is neither here nor there to what you asked. :2wave:
 
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Dude , the system here differs than yours, In the US once you are born In there, you can have the nationality, In Egypt, your are born from Palestini parents, you are palestini .

His mother was Egyptian, not Palestinian. He was raised in Egypt. He fought for Egypt. He adopted the Palestinian cause. He was an Arab. Nothing more.
 
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No it isn't, you are being silly. The fact they never had a state is neither here nor there to what you asked. :2wave:

You used the words "national sovereignty". The Pals have never been a nation. Britain has and is. If you've never been a nation then how can you have a "national sovereignty". You are being silly.
 
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Dude , the system here differs than yours, In the US once you are born In there, you can have the nationality, In Egypt, your are born from Palestini parents, you are palestini .

Fair enough. I had thought that anyone who joined the fight and lived in Palestine was considered Palestinian.
 
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True, but the act that they and there families are killed is jamming the Idea you are talking about (That Hamas is responsible for what they are in), so all what controlls their minds is revenge, which cannot be done without Hamas.
Actually, I cant blame them, they need a super x 10000 illustrate to leave this Idea :shock:

Considering that I pointed out earlier that Israel had approved of Hamas, I also find it a little hard to put all blame on the Palestinians:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/archives/4916-republicans-have-lost-war-terror.html#post123090

I wish somehow the Palestinians could understand that although Israel was hypocritical (most hated of God) in its approach here, to approve of Hamas, and then to kill those that take the bait (as it COULD seem), not all people would have let them get sucked in to such a hell hole. I would just have made it clear, see a Hamas kill a Hamas; the only good Hamas is a dead Hamas.

The world in its seeming support of Hamas, to give them a chance, like Jimmy Carter Pin articulated, is simply not helping the Palestinians. It is why I do not get so mad at Billo_Really for his balance in condemning Israel.

The worthless UN resolution that called for the cease-fire should have included something to this effect:

Whereas, Israel has approved of Hamas in being a viable partner for peace to be elected, when the Hamas Charter and the actions of Hamas are a violation of the United Nations Charter and UN resolution 242, therefore, Israel is not innocent of the bloodshed in response to Hamas being elected, consequently Israel should immediately stop the overreaction, stand down, and Member States operating according to Articles blah, blah, blah, 45, blah, blah, blah, 47, blah, blah, blah, must restore international peace and security to the area. Whereas, it is the determination of the Security Council that International Peace and Security can only come when Hamas is removed, and viable government established in Gaza, which is in compliance with International Peace and Security. {I am sure a lawyer with some sense can word it much better; I once had a 14 by 14 foot ceiling fall on my head after a hurricane. So please forgive my twitchiness. }

Charter of The United Nations

Considering the approval by Israel of Hamas to be elected, it is somewhat understandable that Palestinians would feel duped, betrayed, and hopelessly murdered.

The big problem here is, I am not hearing enough reasonable arguments coming out of those Palestinians that support the Palestinians having a State. On the one hand the hypocrites want an Oslo aid and comfort forgiving their past crimes and on the other they want to bring up Israeli Terrorism or other crimes that happened prior to 1967; Illogic will not convince me of anything.

Supporting terror and shoving salami bombs up their butts and vaginas, for the rape of angels at Lut's house, will not convince me Palestinians as a Nation can be trusted to be at peace with anyone; the laws of man can never be any more perfect than the road to Mecca, or (in my opinion) the Books that travel it.
 
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Our Curriculums are already checked by the Minstry of Education under Strict laws.
Key word "our" - but that's just your curriculum.

My point is there has to be many madrasah's where anti-american ideals and anti-ethical ideals are promoted - how else are many palestinian students brainwashed to hate israelis, and to learn how to shoot ak-47/m-16's at age 14, and that the west has ruined the world.

Again, I am not bashing your school, because you are clearly educated; In fact, I'm not bashing at all;
I am making note of the fact that there are 'those' madrasahs out there....
 
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