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OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for peace ?

Is Israel still seeking for peace ? Read the post below :

  • No

    Votes: 26 37.7%
  • Yes

    Votes: 43 62.3%

  • Total voters
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Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

My problems go far beyond the Bush administration and I find it humorous that you and Vader think that you "got me" on this one.
Actually, you "got yourself" shiznit. I merely pointed it out.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

They are legitimate targets because they target Israel. If they do not want to be legitimate targets, they should stop. Simple concept that seems to elude them.

They should absolutely create an underground resistance...and an above ground one, too. Perhaps if they showed that they were actually doing something, internally, to stop the terrorists in their mists, Israels attacks would lessen. They do not, however.

Exactly what I said above and several times in this thread. Underground resistance. Above ground resistance. Start rounding up and arresting terrorists. Work towards replacing their current government with one who's goals do not cause destruction amongst their own people. I am not saying that any of this will be easy, but it's not rocket science to figure out solutions, here. It just requires that Palestinians from Gaza to decide to do it.

Arresting terrorists? Seriously, you should take a closer look at Gaza. Their police stations were just bombed by Israel.

Just so we're clear, you expect an organization to rise up from a Third World country while being suppressed by a half-ass government and bombarded by First World country?
 
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Actually, you "got yourself" shiznit. I merely pointed it out.

You're comparing the responsibilities of the US president to that of the government of a Third World country. So you found a technicality, took it out of context, twisted my words, then really "got me".
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Arresting terrorists? Seriously, you should take a closer look at Gaza. Their police stations were just bombed by Israel.

Just so we're clear, you expect an organization to rise up from a Third World country while being suppressed by a half-ass government and bombarded by First World country?

Thats because the police were Hamas stooges. They were NEVER real police.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Arresting terrorists? Seriously, you should take a closer look at Gaza. Their police stations were just bombed by Israel.

Umm, their police WERE the terrorists so it only makes sense that they would suffer the wrath of a country that has been bombarded by their rockets and suicide bombers for weeks.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

You're comparing the responsibilities of the US president to that of the government of a Third World country. So you found a technicality, took it out of context, twisted my words, then really "got me".

She's right. You got yourself.

Now quit while you're behind.
 
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Umm, their police WERE the terrorists so it only makes sense that they would suffer the wrath of a country that has been bombarded by their rockets and suicide bombers for weeks.

So again, what would you do if you were a Gazan? You clearly cannot arrest anyone. We may have the luxury of protesting and maintaining our lively hood or even receive social welfare from the very government we protest, but they certainly can do neither in Gaza.
 
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So again, what would you do if you were a Gazan? You clearly cannot arrest anyone. We may have the luxury of protesting and maintaining our lively hood or even receive social welfare from the very government we protest, but they certainly can do neither in Gaza.

Well, when they get tired of their government causing Israeli bombs to rain down on them, I'm sure they'll think of something.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

So again, what would you do if you were a Gazan? You clearly cannot arrest anyone. We may have the luxury of protesting and maintaining our lively hood or even receive social welfare from the very government we protest, but they certainly can do neither in Gaza.
The Hamas government is responsible for what they do and what they refuse to do. That's how it works in the real world.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

The Hamas government is responsible for what they do and what they refuse to do. That's how it works in the real world.

That's how it works in First World countries. Its a convenient way to avoid using anything more than superior technology to attempt to solve our problems. I have no problems holding Hamas responsible, but I do have a problem with punishing those around them when it has been proven over and over again that bombarding Gaza will not solve the problem.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

The Hamas government is responsible for what they do and what they refuse to do. That's how it works in the real world.

So is the Israeli government. I hope they have a follow though program for the people in the Gaza Strip that does not involve the way they have treated he Gaza Strip in the past.

BTW I do think Israel has been forced to invade.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

That's how it works in First World countries. Its a convenient way to avoid using anything more than superior technology to attempt to solve our problems. I have no problems holding Hamas responsible, but I do have a problem with punishing those around them when it has been proven over and over again that bombarding Gaza will not solve the problem.

I'm pretty sure if they did it right, the problem could be solved by bombardment. If I were Israel, I would level every building in the strip and not stop until the Gazans were willingly handing up Hamas just to make it stop.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

So is the Israeli government. I hope they have a follow though program for the people in the Gaza Strip that does not involve the way they have treated he Gaza Strip in the past.

BTW I do think Israel has been forced to invade.

They were "forced" to invade Lebanon too, we all see how well that worked.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

I'm pretty sure if they did it right, the problem could be solved by bombardment. If I were Israel, I would level every building in the strip and not stop until the Gazans were willingly handing up Hamas just to make it stop.

Now that would be the darkest irony ever. Israel systematically eliminating the Gaza strip... I wonder if they would even say its the "final solution to the Gaza problem."
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

They were "forced" to invade Lebanon too, we all see how well that worked.

Rockets have been being launched from Gaza randomly this is not right, period. Nor is right for Israel to force Gaza into poverty. I hope Israel as the bigger person on the block has a plan to rectify their own mistakes.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

They were "forced" to invade Lebanon too, we all see how well that worked.
No thanks to the international community. The same community which is crying once again. Strange how this sanctimonious community didn't say boo during all the weeks Hamas rockets were falling on Israel. Their collective righteousness is highly and inexplicably selective.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Now that would be the darkest irony ever. Israel systematically eliminating the Gaza strip... I wonder if they would even say its the "final solution to the Gaza problem."

Oh how melodramatic with the Hitler reference. No one even suggested such a thing.

But if that's what it took... while Israel may find the solution unpalatable, I do not.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

No thanks to the international community. The same community which is crying once again. Strange how this sanctimonious community didn't say boo during all the weeks Hamas rockets were falling on Israel. Their collective righteousness is highly and inexplicably selective.

Perhaps because they choose to look at the history of the situation instead of the most recent turn of events. Israel violently made its state and has been at war ever since, no country wants to get fully involved for a cause that has become questionable.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Rockets have been being launched from Gaza randomly this is not right, period. Nor is right for Israel to force Gaza into poverty. I hope Israel as the bigger person on the block has a plan to rectify their own mistakes.
So... Israel is supposed to just allow someone to lob rockets into their country and not act to stop those doing it?

What other country would be expected to endure the attacks visited upon Israel and not respond with military force?
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Israel violently made its state and has been at war ever since, no country wants to get fully involved for a cause that has become questionable.
Bulldookey shiznit. The UN partitioned the land. Deal with it.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Perhaps because they choose to look at the history of the situation instead of the most recent turn of events. Israel violently made its state and has been at war ever since, no country wants to get fully involved for a cause that has become questionable.
The UN created the partition.
Thus, Israel is every bit as legitimate as a state, and has every bit the same right to exist, as any other state in the region.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

So... Israel is supposed to just allow someone to lob rockets into their country and not act to stop those doing it?

What other country would be expected to endure the attacks visited upon Israel and not respond with military force?
According to some here (no names necessry), no country needs put up with that crap. Except Israel of course. The "Do as I say, not as I do" syndrome.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

According to some here (no names necessry), no country needs put up with that crap. Except Israel of course.
And, perhaps, the US.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Not a mainstrean position in Israel. Rabbi Yosef is known for his rheotic and extreme positions.

He's in a permanent vegetative state, so he doesn't matter much at this point.



Be-Gurion died when? 1973. Obviously, since what he said above is not happening, this is irrelevant at this time.

There was never a Chairman Heilbrun. This has been exposed as a false quote, made by a conspiracy theorist. Therefore, irrelevant.



Same as above. Sharon doesn't matter much at this point.



The current situation is on Hamas. Once the Palestinians of Gaza enact the 4 points that I mentioned, Israel must negotiate and be willing to make concessions. Until then, Israel should do nothing.

Its not my business sharon doesnt matter or not , he said that, he is responsible, and either the ones who follow him.

He is a bloody, rheotic, and extremist too.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

In the grand scheme of things, both parties have a hand in what is happening. In our current situation, the problem is from Hamas and the Palestinians. The solution is, mostly, in their hands.

What can they do while they are getting killed by Israelians but to set a side with the ones who will revenge for them, Hamas ?
 
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