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OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for peace ?

Is Israel still seeking for peace ? Read the post below :

  • No

    Votes: 26 37.7%
  • Yes

    Votes: 43 62.3%

  • Total voters
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Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

I'm sure if they really wanted to get Hamas out they could do it but it would take time.
They could infiltrate Hamas as becoming a new member to gain their confidence, or steal weapons,I'm sure that's not to hard either.
Or get help from the Mossad ,or the IDF on the sly.
Tough decisions either way.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Irrelevant who started. This is precisely how debates like these get derailed. Bottom line is this:

1) Hamas's charter calls for the destruction of Israel. This has not changed.
2) Hamas was elected by the Palestinian people. This has not changed.
3) Palestinians from Gaza continue to fire rockets into Israel, showing that they do not want peace. This has not changed.
4) Palestinians continue to do nothing about Hamas terrorists attacking Israel...except complaining that they can do nothing, which is ridiculous. This has not changed.

In my view, until these things change, Israel should not negotiate with Hamas/Gaza and should respond to any terrorist attacks 10-fold. This is completely Hamas's fault...at least at this point. If Palestinians want peace, they need to show something. They have not.

1) Rabi Ovadia Yosef : "Its forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missles to them and annihilate them"

2) Ariel Sharon : "I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian and I met a Palestinian I would burn him and I would make him suffer before killing him. With one hit I've killed 750 Palestinians (in Rafah in 1956). I wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as the Palestinian women is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to her and nobody tells us what we shall do, but we tell others what they shall do." To Ouze Merham Magazine .

3) David Ben-Gurion : "We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee(north Palestine) of its Arab population."

4) Chairman Heilbrun : "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves."

5) Ariel Sharon : “Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn them, to have everyone hate us, to pull the rug from underneath the feet of the Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us crying. Even if it means blowing up one or two synagogues here and there, I don't care.”



Dude, What are you talking about, both must be blamed.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

This shows me your insensitivity to what's happening on the other side. Civilians on your side are valuable but, not those Israelis killed.

Until the Palestinian people stand up and overthrow Hamas this violence will continue.

Answer me this: If Palestinians don't get rid of Hamas and Hamas (as well as Palestinians!) continues to bomb Israel, killing Israel civilians...

How do you suggest Israel respond?

How should Israel try to broker a "peace"?

Dont Involve Citizens into this please..
You are the peace maker so you tell us how..
I'd oppened this poll to find a peaceful solution , still searching .
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Even if I accept a three sentence 'article' from a site I've never heard of and likely never will again, you are still blatantly, shamefully lying.

I'd saw the mosque scene from up in one of the TV channels, but i couldnt find much in youtube..

I wont beg you to believe whats written,
You dont believe this article : MY ASS ..
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Dont Involve Citizens into this please..
You are the peace maker so you tell us how..
I'd oppened this poll to find a peaceful solution , still searching .

Don't sidestep YOUR thread!

You're the one shooting everyone's suggestions down. Just how should Israel respond to those missile attacks while Hamas, and yes Palestinians, dress like civilians and hide among civilians?

This is THEE question to be answered over there.

Also, why doesn't Hamas just stop attacking Israel? I can guarantee if they stopped Israel would stop.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

I'd saw the mosque scene from up in one of the TV channels, but i couldnt find much in youtube..

I wont beg you to believe whats written,
You dont believe this article : MY ASS ..

Care to address this?

What Hamas destruction you are talking about, Israel targeted 100% civilian places

Source [Yahoo! News | Israel launches massive air strikes on Gaza, killing nearly 200]

Hamas said all of its security installations were hit and responded with several medium-range Grad rockets at Israel, reaching deeper than in the past.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Don't sidestep YOUR thread!

You're the one shooting everyone's suggestions down. Just how should Israel respond to those missile attacks while Hamas, and yes Palestinians, dress like civilians and hide among civilians?

This is THEE question to be answered over there.

Also, why doesn't Hamas just stop attacking Israel? I can guarantee if they stopped Israel would stop.

I hadnt shoot anyones suggestions here, but you people are acting like if the problem is from Hamas and Palestinians only.

All Iam saying that Israel isnt innocent from this.

we are trying to get for a solution here not an argument .
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Care to address this?

Unfortunately didnt found (time being), the news are still fresh, lets wait for a couple of days.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

1) Rabi Ovadia Yosef : "Its forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missles to them and annihilate them"

Not a mainstrean position in Israel. Rabbi Yosef is known for his rheotic and extreme positions.

2) Ariel Sharon : "I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian and I met a Palestinian I would burn him and I would make him suffer before killing him. With one hit I've killed 750 Palestinians (in Rafah in 1956). I wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as the Palestinian women is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to her and nobody tells us what we shall do, but we tell others what they shall do." To Ouze Merham Magazine .
He's in a permanent vegetative state, so he doesn't matter much at this point.

3) David Ben-Gurion : "We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee(north Palestine) of its Arab population."

Be-Gurion died when? 1973. Obviously, since what he said above is not happening, this is irrelevant at this time.

4) Chairman Heilbrun : "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves."
There was never a Chairman Heilbrun. This has been exposed as a false quote, made by a conspiracy theorist. Therefore, irrelevant.

5) Ariel Sharon : “Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn them, to have everyone hate us, to pull the rug from underneath the feet of the Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us crying. Even if it means blowing up one or two synagogues here and there, I don't care.”

Same as above. Sharon doesn't matter much at this point.



Dude, What are you talking about, both must be blamed.
The current situation is on Hamas. Once the Palestinians of Gaza enact the 4 points that I mentioned, Israel must negotiate and be willing to make concessions. Until then, Israel should do nothing.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

I hadnt shoot anyones suggestions here, but you people are acting like if the problem is from Hamas and Palestinians only.

All Iam saying that Israel isnt innocent from this.

we are trying to get for a solution here not an argument .

In the grand scheme of things, both parties have a hand in what is happening. In our current situation, the problem is from Hamas and the Palestinians. The solution is, mostly, in their hands.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

In WWII barely any American citizens were killed due to fighting, but that didn't stopAmerica from fire bombing and nuking hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians to death in order to stop the war.

Same with England and Germany...

They problem with Israel is that they go at it half assed. They need to completely dominate Hamas and the Palestinians. Annihilate 50 thousand of them and utterly wipe out there military/terrorist units and then there can be peace... that is, until the Arabs start up again, picking on the Israelis again in 5 or 10 years starting the whole hing over again. :roll:
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

In the grand scheme of things, both parties have a hand in what is happening. In our current situation, the problem is from Hamas and the Palestinians. The solution is, mostly, in their hands.

I've yet to read any report of Israel actually breaking a cease fire...
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

I hadnt shoot anyones suggestions here, but you people are acting like if the problem is from Hamas and Palestinians only.

All Iam saying that Israel isnt innocent from this.

we are trying to get for a solution here not an argument .

That is NOT all that you are saying!

I don't see you offering any ideas! All you seem to want is us to agree that Israel is in the wrong. Most of us contend that Israel was defending itself. If Gaza would stop attacking them they would not be shelling her attackers. Right?

If you're not willing to offer any ideas on "your" thread then what do you want, just to rile us up with your anti-Israel accusations? I don't think they'll fly here. :roll:
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Is Israel seeking for peace ?

Israel is winning. I can tell you that.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Since the word "civilian" is being bantied about with much gnashing of teeth here, I'll repeat what I said in the other thread on this topic.

All residents of Gaza, including members of Hamas with AK's in their hands and grenades in their pockets, are referred to as "civilians"... first, because Hamas is not a legitimate, uniformed military, and second because using the word "civilian" is a swell propaganda tool even if 80% of the dead were indeed combantants.

Palestinian security sources said Sunday that at least 277 people, most of them Hamas militants, have been killed and hundreds more wounded.

Even the Palestinians are reporting that most of them were Hamas militants, so let's drop the "think of the civilians!!" debate model, okay?

Carry on.
 
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Israel is winning. I can tell you that.

And that's the real telling thing right there. Israel showed remarkable restraint considering they have had the power to put the screws to Palestine anytime they pleased.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

And that's the real telling thing right there. Israel showed remarkable restraint considering they have had the power to put the screws to Palestine anytime they pleased.

Yes, and the major point that keeps getting ignored is that Hamas is militarizing "civilian" areas by launching rockets from them. How people defend that I don't know. Israel should view them as legitimate targets.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

There can be peace when there are no Hamas survivors. I don't see much chance until then.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Since the word "civilian" is being bantied about with much gnashing of teeth here, I'll repeat what I said in the other thread on this topic.

All residents of Gaza, including members of Hamas with AK's in their hands and grenades in their pockets, are referred to as "civilians"... first, because Hamas is not a legitimate, uniformed military, and second because using the word "civilian" is a swell propaganda tool even if 80% of the dead were indeed combantants.

Palestinian security sources said Sunday that at least 277 people, most of them Hamas militants, have been killed and hundreds more wounded.

Even the Palestinians are reporting that most of them were Hamas militants, so let's drop the "think of the civilians!!" debate model, okay?

Carry on.


Figures. freaking propoganda. Good to hear, I had not seen that aspect yet. Thank you.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Please , the one you are talking about is HAMAS not PALESTINE.

Must The Palestinians Die for Hamas's Mistake (breaking the ceasefire) ?

Israel already did and broke it too , so I think Its fair to Israel that we must kill 300 an Injure 700 Israeli citizens ?

I dont think so ..
Well, yes. The people always suffer or supporting horrid movements. The Japanese suffered for the Militants, the Goths chastised the Roman citizenry for the Emperors' shortcomings, and Christians are held accountable in the Muslim world for the excesses of the Crusades.

The Palestinians seek a standard designed just for themselves, this should not be allowed.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

If someone attacks our country we go across oceans to bomb the heck out of two countries....one of which had nothing to do with the attack on us. But somehow people think that Israel is suppose to do nothing when they are being attacked on an almost daily basis by the terrorists right next door. Oh brother! Talk about having a slanted view.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Yes, and the major point that keeps getting ignored is that Hamas is militarizing "civilian" areas by launching rockets from them. How people defend that I don't know. Israel should view them as legitimate targets.
A view from the cockpit
IAF destroys rocket launching pad purposely located in residential area.

A view from the cockpit |JPost.com Video
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Hamas was created in 1988 , Israeli-Palestine conflict was existing since 1967 , who started the war then ?

Egypt started the war in 1967 with the illegal blockade of the Gulf of Eilat.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

how bloody,
I think its better to convence them, thats a peaceful way :2razz:

"convince them" while rockets are raining down on southern Israel? I think not.
 
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