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OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for peace ?

Is Israel still seeking for peace ? Read the post below :

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Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

They sure do. Stuff like "you conceded"......"I won"......blah, blah, blah.

Oh brother... here we go again with the classic playground come backs. :doh
Attempt to use another's remark against them like the whole, "I'm rubber and you're glue" routine. Smells... You suck.

...and did I actually say, "I won"? Don't think so, and if I didn't, for you to quote me as saying that is just more evidence of you lying. I believe that I said that Egofftb won and you lost, in fact.

Also, what is moronic with saying, "you conceded" when you did. You said, "I agree" after you initially did not, and after I provided evidence, you changed your answer to, "I agree". That is a concession, my friend. ;)

This just gets better and better... you are currently running yourself in circles. I don't have top do anything, you are so frazzled! :rofl
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Bodhi, I'm sure there's better things you can do with your time.
 
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Wait, you conceded and you don't even remember! :rofl

... I remind you of the guy saying that blah blah in a movie when you are sitting there yelling "I never conceded. Show me where I conceded" after I am done with you and I am walking away from that one particular debate from you?! :rofl

In post 1075 you say, "I agree the entire bible is scripture".

Taking the OT into account allows for all of the violence included in it, like:

“Blessed is he who smashes their little ones against the rocks” (Psalm 137:9)

This point went to show that past religious events and leaders actions were relevant with regards to what is happening today with Islam. That was my point, and Egofftib's as well.


Just like this point, your assertion that I use weak snippet debate tactics was addressed in post 1082, and you ignored that one too. Typical. THAT, is weak, my friend. ;)

Agreeing on a point with you is not "conceding". Are you that desparate?

That verse from Psalms is always used by morons. You're as ignorant as they are. Nothing new. Please get something new.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Jesus never said to kill someone because they were harming Christianity or harming Jesus. Jesus was on the cross and being killed and Jesus said "forgive them because they know not what they do".

Do you see a difference here?

When the Prophet was wounded in the Battle of Uhud, some suggested that he curse the “idolaters”, the Prophet Muhammad replied, “I am not sent for damnation. O Lord! Guide my nation, they don’t know. ”

No difference
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Agreeing on a point with you is not "conceding". Are you that desparate?

That verse from Psalms is always used by morons. You're as ignorant as they are. Nothing new. Please get something new.

Why do you always criticize any unlikely testament ?
Isn't that a real saying ?
 
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Bodhi, I'm sure there's better things you can do with your time.

I was surfing earlier this morning and was just thinking about going back out, actually.
The waves are really freaking sweet, it is just damn cold! :shock:
We have this Antarctic Current rolling through right now.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Agreeing on a point with you is not "conceding". Are you that desparate?

That verse from Psalms is always used by morons. You're as ignorant as they are. Nothing new. Please get something new.


Now you are using my "moron" comment against me?
Dude, do you have anything of your own?

That ONE QUOTE is just a quick find one that I grabbed.
How does it NOT indicate that the Old Testament contains violence though?

Hmmm.... maybe you can explain how that quote is peacefull?

I already offered you another debate, one that you did not accept.
What do you want me to do now? I guess I will go surfing in a few...

Oh... and since you agreed to my point after initially NOT agreeing, that is called CONCEDING. Look man, it is just the definition of the word, nothing complicated. Just simple English. It is alright, I know you are having trouble with this whole thing...


concede   /kənˈsid/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kuhn-seed] Show IPA Pronunciation
verb, -ced⋅ed, -ced⋅ing.
–verb (used with object)

1. to acknowledge as true, just, or proper; admit: He finally conceded that she was right.
2. to acknowledge (an opponent's victory, score, etc.) before it is officially established: to concede an election before all the votes are counted.
3. to grant as a right or privilege; yield: to concede a longer vacation for all employees.
–verb (used without object) 4. to make concession; yield; admit: She was so persistent that I conceded at last.


concede definition | Dictionary.com
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Oh brother... here we go again with the classic playground come backs. :doh
Attempt to use another's remark against them like the whole, "I'm rubber and you're glue" routine. Smells... You suck.

...and did I actually say, "I won"? Don't think so, and if I didn't, for you to quote me as saying that is just more evidence of you lying. I believe that I said that Egofftb won and you lost, in fact.

Also, what is moronic with saying, "you conceded" when you did. You said, "I agree" after you initially did not, and after I provided evidence, you changed your answer to, "I agree". That is a concession, my friend. ;)

This just gets better and better... you are currently running yourself in circles. I don't have top do anything, you are so frazzled! :rofl

I agreed that the old testament is scripture. I didn't agree to your argument. You really are desparate. That usually happens when someone is weak like you.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Now you are using my "moron" comment against me?
Dude, do you have anything of your own?

That ONE QUOTE is just a quick find one that I grabbed.
How does it NOT indicate that the Old Testament contains violence though?

Hmmm.... maybe you can explain how that quote is peacefull?

I already offered you another debate, one that you did not accept.
What do you want me to do now? I guess I will go surfing in a few...

Oh... and since you agreed to my point after initially NOT agreeing, that is called CONCEDING. Look man, it is just the definition of the word, nothing complicated. Just simple English. It is alright, I know you are having trouble with this whole thing...


concede   /kənˈsid/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kuhn-seed] Show IPA Pronunciation
verb, -ced⋅ed, -ced⋅ing.
–verb (used with object)

1. to acknowledge as true, just, or proper; admit: He finally conceded that she was right.
2. to acknowledge (an opponent's victory, score, etc.) before it is officially established: to concede an election before all the votes are counted.
3. to grant as a right or privilege; yield: to concede a longer vacation for all employees.
–verb (used without object) 4. to make concession; yield; admit: She was so persistent that I conceded at last.


concede definition | Dictionary.com

Who is the quote attributed to? Hang around folks. I don't think he'll follow up, but if he does this is going to be fun to watch.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

How many people did Jesus behead or kill and how many people did Mohammed behead or kill?

None and a lot.

jesus definetly taught peace while, at least initially... and 1.5 thousand years after that, Islam spread by the sword. Dang, Islam got all the way to the steps of Vienna, Austria before gradually being pushed back.

Christians fought many wars against others and each other, over religion too, but not due to any teaching from Jesus, it was more of a way of killing others for not believing the same exact thing about Jesus as they did. Prot/Cath for example.

I completely agree with you, Walleye, on these points.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Who is the quote attributed to? Hang around folks. I don't think he'll follow up, but if he does this is going to be fun to watch.

Unless you can tell me why that is relevant, I don't care.
It is in the Old Testament and that is all that I am displaying.
Violence in the Chrisitian Old Testament... boom. Done.

Oh, and you don't debate the snippet thing or the conceding thing either,
So I guess that since you are moving on and ignoring those, you are
Conceding to my being correct about those two points as well. ;)
 
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I just provided evidence from multiple sources showing that Christianity comprises MUCH MORE than just what Jesus taught. Focus... please. :roll:

Christianity is the entire New Testament. Christian == follower of Christ. The Old Testament rituals and laws are dead.

Focus.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Unless you can tell me why that is relevant, I don't care.
It is in the Old Testament and that is all that I am displaying.
Violence in the Chrisitian Old Testament... boom. Done.

Oh, and you don't debate the snippet thing or the conceding thing either,
So I guess that since you are moving on and ignoring those, you are
Conceding to my being correct about those two points as well. ;)

Yes, it is violence but it is not condoned. Just because it is written about doesn't mean it is right. Example....Job thought for sure it was God punishing him, but by reading the book we find out it was the devil who killed his family and ruined him and it was God who blessed him afterwards. It is in the bible, but it was not God.

I don't expect you to see the difference, but hopefully some of this will sink in. Is there an adult there to help you? Is your mommy home?
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Christianity is the entire New Testament. Christian == follower of Christ. The Old Testament rituals and laws are dead.

Focus.

What do you mean by "they are dead", weren't they a part of christian testament once.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Matthew 27:5 "And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself"

Luke 10:37 "Go, and do thou likewise".


See how easy this is? I just used the bible to condone suicide.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

What do you mean by "they are dead", weren't they a part of christian testament once.

No. Christians do not follow any of the rituals or dietary laws, etc, in the Old Testament. They are dead. Jesus on the cross said "it is finished". Gone, dead, over. Finished.

Christians live in a new Covenant (Testament). It's like if you have a will and testament and you tear it up and make a new one. The old one is no longer in effect.
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Christianity is the entire New Testament. Christian == follower of Christ. The Old Testament rituals and laws are dead.

Focus.

Holy Cow! Are you serious? :rofl

You just agreed that:

Christian Bible
The Christian Bible consists of the Hebrew scriptures, which have been called the Old Testament, and some later writings known as the New Testament.

Bible - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Old Testament
The Old Testament is the collection of books written prior to the life of Jesus but accepted by Christians as scripture ... Several Christian denominations also incorporate additional books into their canons of the Old Testament.

Bible - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Bible
the sacred scriptures of Judaism and Christianity. The Christian Bible consists of the Old Testament and the New Testament

Bible -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia

http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls...l-still-seeking-peace-108.html#post1057898053


By saying that you agreed , "I agree the entire bible is scripture" - Walleye


Scripture   /ˈskrɪptʃər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [skrip-cher] Show IPA Pronunciation

–noun 1. Often, Scriptures. Also called Holy Scripture, Holy Scriptures. the sacred writings of the Old or New Testaments or both together


scripture definition | Dictionary.com

Jeez... let's look at this one AGAIN: :roll:

Bible
the sacred scriptures of Judaism and Christianity. The Christian Bible consists of the Old Testament and the New Testament

Christianity is BOTH the New AND THE OLD TESTAMENT. Look, if you are simply gonna be obtuse about this, then that is fine. I can deal with it if you are joking, or lying for some kicks, and even if you are serious about it (ie Delusional).

Just realize that all intellectually honest people understand that Christianity is BOTH the New AND THE OLD TESTAMENT because it is so. Don't blame me, blame the dictionaries and the encyclopedias. They deserve your "moron" comments and your scorn. I am just the messenger...
 
Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

Holy Cow! Are you serious? :rofl

You just agreed that:



http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls...l-still-seeking-peace-108.html#post1057898053


By saying that you agreed , "I agree the entire bible is scripture" - Walleye


Scripture   /ˈskrɪptʃər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [skrip-cher] Show IPA Pronunciation

–noun 1. Often, Scriptures. Also called Holy Scripture, Holy Scriptures. the sacred writings of the Old or New Testaments or both together


scripture definition | Dictionary.com

Jeez... let's look at this one AGAIN: :roll:



Christianity is BOTH the New AND THE OLD TESTAMENT. Look, if you are simply gonna be obtuse about this, then that is fine. I can deal with it if you are joking, or lying for some kicks, and even if you are serious about it (ie Delusional).

Just realize that all intellectually honest people understand that Christianity is BOTH the New AND THE OLD TESTAMENT because it is so. Don't blame me, blame the dictionaries and the encyclopedias. They deserve your "moron" comments and your scorn. I am just the messenger...

I can't help it if you're dense. The fact is the entire bible is scripture and I believe that. Another fact is that the Old Testament rituals and laws are not in effect. They are dead. Finished. That does not mean that the Old Testament is no longer scripture. It is still the Word of God. Christians live under the New Covenant (Testament).

I can't help it if you can't grasp this truth. If you choose to remain ignorant then that is your choice. Here is a link. I hope this helps.

Question: "Do Christians have to obey the Old Testament law?"

Answer: The key to understanding this issue is knowing that the Old Testament Law was given to the nation of Israel, not to Christians. Some of the laws were to reveal to the Israelites how to obey and please God (the Ten Commandments for example). Some of the laws were to show the Israelites how to worship God and atone for sin (the sacrificial system). Some of the laws were intended to make the Israelites distinct from other nations (the food and clothing rules). None of the Old Testament law applies to us today. When Jesus died on the cross, He put an end to the Old Testament law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15).

In place of the Old Testament law, we are under the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2), which is to, “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind … and to love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:37-39). If we obey those two commands, we will be fulfilling all that Christ requires of us, “All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:40). Now, this does not mean the Old Testament Law is irrelevant today. Many of the commands in the Old Testament Law fall into the categories of “loving God” and “loving your neighbor.” The Old Testament Law can be a good “guidepost” for knowing how to love God and knowing what goes into loving your neighbor. At the same time, to say that the Old Testament Law applies to Christians today is incorrect. The Old Testament Law is a unit (James 2:10). Either all of it applies, or none of it applies. If Christ fulfilled some it, such as the sacrificial system, He fulfilled all of it.

“This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome” (1 John 5:3). The Ten Commandments were essentially a summary of the entire Old Testament Law. Nine of the Ten Commandments are clearly repeated in the New Testament (all except the command to observe the Sabbath day). Obviously, if we are loving God we will not be worshipping false gods or bowing down before idols. If we are loving our neighbors, we will not be murdering them, lying to them, committing adultery against them, or coveting what belongs to them. The purpose of the Old Testament Law is to point people to their need for Jesus Christ as Savior (Romans 7:7-9; Galatians 3:24). The Old Testament Law was never intended by God to be the universal law for all people for all of time. We are to love God and love our neighbors. If we obey those two commands faithfully, we will be upholding all that God requires of us.
Do Christians have to obey the Old Testament law?
 
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No. Christians do not follow any of the rituals or dietary laws, etc, in the Old Testament. They are dead. Jesus on the cross said "it is finished". Gone, dead, over. Finished.

Christians live in a new Covenant (Testament). It's like if you have a will and testament and you tear it up and make a new one. The old one is no longer in effect.

So you admit that the old testaments were agressive.
 
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Yes, it is violence but it is not condoned. Just because it is written about doesn't mean it is right. Example....Job thought for sure it was God punishing him, but by reading the book we find out it was the devil who killed his family and ruined him and it was God who blessed him afterwards. It is in the bible, but it was not God.

I don't expect you to see the difference, but hopefully some of this will sink in. Is there an adult there to help you? Is your mommy home?

Ok, it is relevant, or so you say without providing a translation regarding the quote that I provided. You say that it was not condoned and then you give a different example? How about explaining why the quote that I used is not relevant instead before you start acting like a an arrogant clown thinking that you made some good point. This is just the start of the debate, the one that you wouldn't initially accept, but now you are kinda dancing around in sissy fashion.

Are you saying that there are no passages containing violence in the OT that are not from God? I seem to remember quite a few from him, and/or some prophets.

And this is where you senile characteristics are shining through... I asked how and why it was relevant and take that simple question, asked so that there is zero confusion, as a sign of an inability to comprehend? Interesting assessment... :roll:

So, do you want to debate that there is/is not condoned violence in the Bible or not?
 
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Ok, it is relevant, or so you say without providing a translation regarding the quote that I provided. You say that it was not condoned and then you give a different example? How about explaining why the quote that I used is not relevant instead before you start acting like a an arrogant clown thinking that you made some good point. This is just the start of the debate, the one that you wouldn't initially accept, but now you are kinda dancing around in sissy fashion.

Are you saying that there are no passages containing violence in the OT that are not from God? I seem to remember quite a few from him, and/or some prophets.

And this is where you senile characteristics are shining through... I asked how and why it was relevant and take that simple question, asked so that there is zero confusion, as a sign of an inability to comprehend? Interesting assessment... :roll:

So, do you want to debate that there is/is not condoned violence in the Bible or not?

I thought acting like an arrogant clown was okay? I saw you do it so I thought it was required.

Psalm 137 was written during the time of great despair and is spoken in revenge for the acts committed against the Jews. God is not condoning revenge. Just like God is not condoning what happened to Job, although Job thought God was doing it to him. It is iin the bible, but it is not what God promotes.

The violence condoned by God is judgment either on Israel for disobeying or for the enemies of Israel. God had a plan. He needed a nation to bring forth the Savior of the world and the nation needed a land. The plan of God will go forth no matter who stands in the way. Mercy overrides judgment. Choose mercy or else judgment awaits.
 
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I can't help it if you're dense. The fact is the entire bible is scripture and I believe that. Another fact is that the Old Testament rituals and laws are not in effect. They are dead. Finished. That does not mean that the Old Testament is no longer scripture. It is still the Word of God. Christians live under the New Covenant (Testament).

Dude, dense? This is like you are a rebelling teenager calling his father stupid for understanding things that the teenager is incapable of understanding due to cognitive development obstacles. I can sense that you are starting to squirm as you attempt to justify your misunderstanding regarding your religion. It is OK. It will all work out. You are still a "Christian" to us. ;)

christian religion

noun
a monotheistic system of beliefs and practices based on the Old Testament and the teachings of Jesus as embodied in the New Testament and emphasizing the role of Jesus as savior


Christian Religion definition | Dictionary.com

A Christian is one who embodies a monotheistic system of beliefs and practices based on the Old Testament and the teachings of Jesus as embodied in the New Testament and emphasizing the role of Jesus as savior

Not sure how much more simple this issue could be? *shrugs*
 
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I thought acting like an arrogant clown was okay? I saw you do it so I thought it was required.

Psalm 137 was written during the time of great despair and is spoken in revenge for the acts committed against the Jews. God is not condoning revenge. Just like God is not condoning what happened to Job, although Job thought God was doing it to him. It is iin the bible, but it is not what God promotes.


I act like an arrogant clown most of the time... but I also make valid points.
I think that is the major difference between us. ;)

OK... so who wrote the psalm and if it is a book of holy scripture, then how is it not by extension, the word of God.?

Even then... it is in the Bible nd if this is debatable, the word of god part, then perhaps parts of the Qu'ran that you object to are debatable as well?

Finally, I had a HUGE debate a couple years back and had all this great stuff to slam dunk you with, and I can't find it by searching DP. I am not sure that I am interested in doing it again, at least not today. But let me know if you are interested... still waiting for that answer.
 
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