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Is there a problem with propaganda and brainwashing in the US

Is there a problem with propaganda and brainwashing in the US

  • Yes.. I am republican btw.

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • No.. I am republican btw.

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • Yes.. I am democrat btw.

    Votes: 5 38.5%
  • No.. I am democrat btw.

    Votes: 4 30.8%

  • Total voters
    13
Just a poll.. About brainwashing and propaganda directed at the people of the US by their government and media.

But the again, if you were brainwashed you probably wouldn't know it.


PS. choose the party who's politics you are closest to if independent or belong to another party.

I'd say the media can be brainwashing at times. Its capitalism and sensationalism. People are simple and want to be entertained, they aren't entertained by boring politics or simple facts. They are more likely to watch news that has been spun to highlight a conflicting story.

To me the most disturbing method used by the media and government is by instilling fear. Every week you can find the latest food that's bad for you or some household product that may have a catastrophic failure. The government uses this to a smaller degree but the effects are reverberated throughout the media community.
 
Yes, of course. Americans should be more like Europeans, then we would see how brainwashed we really are... as opposed to Europeans, who are exposed only to rational, fair, reasonable, superior media reports devoid of brainwashing.

Nope, no USA-bashing bias here. None whatsoever.

Gag me. I'm choking on the fumes of "we are perfect, you suck" that permeate this thread. And some wonder why we might find some Europeans to be pompous, smug, narcissistic blowhards.

There are lots of propaganda in Europe as well, but nothing compared with the severity of US propaganda which is in one way slowly ruining your nation. The small part of your population which get completely brainwashed are a HUGE danger to your country.
Not only are some agendas horribly dangerous, but in the end these people will affect others and be another tool of propaganda and brainwashing.
 
I'm a Democrat, and I think that you're a ****ing idiot.

Thank you.. I care about your opinion and your politeness..


Ps. Its people like you(and other namecallers) who give Republicans on this forum a very bad name.. Ohh, you are democrat? Then you just give a bad name to Americans.
A name calling democrat, thats not often one sees.
 
The way it works in the USA is through constant repitition of describing an event. The description will have little to do with truth. It is used to bombard people with , terrible things that John Kerry did, for example. Tis repeated over, over, over, over, over, over, and over etc. Soon people will have heard the misinformation so many times that people come to believe it. It repeated on television, Radio, and the internet over and over. Soon people will think that Kerry was traitor and was responsible for the civil war.

So called think tanks, use this tactic to bombard the airwaves with lies and BS

Even though it is not true the negative event will be repeated over and over.
After hearing a lie a hundred times, people begin to think that maybe it is true.

Look at the doubts that are created about the falsely interpreted events in Obama's campaign and now after, by Republicans.

This is exactly right.. Elections in the US are full of propaganda and brainwashing tactics.. Horrible to watch, actually unbearable for someone who is not used to it.
 
I would have to say yes there is brainwashing propaganda going on. It mostly goes on with the media and education institutions. Thats how someone ****ed up like McCain won the republican primaries and how someone who went to a church of a racist and anti-American and hung out with a known anti-American terrorist. Schools do it all the time with their homosexual indoctrination of the kids.They are probably same ass wipes who would sue a school over alleged religious indoctrination that are doing the homosexual indoctrination of our children.

I find it simply stunning that McCain won the republican primaries. Just, how in the hell and why?
Propaganda is one thing..

How old is he again? Like 87? Same age of my grandfather died at..
 
Considering that in America, differing opinions are shown and are available I would say we don't have that big of a problem. You are always going to have one side saying the other side has been, or is being brainwashed, but there is such a breadth of variety of political views in this country I would have to say that any "propoganda" one receives, is because that person has chosen to receive that message rather than another. The people in this country are free to choose what they believe. And they are also free to "sell" their beliefs to others, so long as they don't violate that persons constitutional rights.

Tell us Maximus, in your opinion, was Obama's election due to the American propoganda machine? Were we hoodwinked, or do you think Americans made the right decision?
 
Tell us Maximus, in your opinion, was Obama's election due to the American propoganda machine? Were we hoodwinked, or do you think Americans made the right decision?

Time will tell.. He sure put some good stuff on in the media to be elected. If he lives up to it he was telling the truth, if he don't it was just propaganda and lies to get elected(like usual Washington politics).

Ive said it before, lets hope he does not turn out to be another Washington joke.
 
Time will tell.. He sure put some good stuff on in the media to be elected. If he lives up to it he was telling the truth, if he don't it was just propaganda and lies to get elected(like usual Washington politics).

Ive said it before, lets hope he does not turn out to be another Washington joke.

If on one hand you say Americans are brainwashed by the government and media then on the other you say Obama was elected because of his "good stuff" on the media, aren't you contradicting yourself?

How can people be brainwashed in one area and then not in the other. Personally I feel all politicians lie. The people wanted to hear about health care and both candidates talked about health care. In the end we can only hope that the winner has a real plan and won't continue to BS us about "change" and screw up the country.
 
Time will tell...

So lets get this right. If Obama delivers on his campaign promises, then Americans made the right choice and aren't brainwashed, but if he doesn't deliver than Americans are brainwashed by propoganda. This is like thinking in reverse. Prehaps he was spouting propoganda, something which will be proven over time, but you cannot hold the population responsible for his actual actions after his election. You have to hold that person responsible. All politicians are elected based upon the promise of what they will deliver, especially presidents. Whether they deliver upon those promises, reflects their character(and is probably based more upon the reality of the situation they find themselves in, more than anything else), not the character of the American public.
 
Have you ever said anything positive about the USA? I mean, ever? You seem to have made it your life's work to put this country and it's people under a microscope to criticize every facet of our existence.

I'll answer a poll when it addresses something like "Is there a problem with government and media brainwashing around the world"? As worded it implies that there certainly is no problem with government and media brainwashing in Europe, UK, Australia, hell anywhere but the US. And that, of course, is utter hogwash.

Welcome Dianna ,
Brainwashing is everywhere in the world , but Varies from a country to another and depends mainly on people. Am not offending when I say that many americans are "Stereotyped" and are able to believe anything they hear from the media , specially about a thing they hadn't Coexisted with it .
For example the situations in the middle east , a street-poll was made months ago in Japan saying : What do you thnk of when I say Middle-East ?
many of them said funny things like : I think of people wearing those big turbans and riding camels , and other said I think of Violence and extremism .. Of course there was a praising answeres , but not that much .
Actually no one can blame those people cuz they hadnt Coexisted with us.
As a Middle eastern , I know about 25 relatives and friends who are in Europe and America, so when they get back they tell me about whats really going there, how do people live, how do people think.. So media now isn'nt so important to me, cuz I knew what I wanted to know.
But I think in America, there is'nt so much Americans who travels outside specially to the Middle-East , so they tends to hear what media says about us, fortunately not all of them believes what media says.
 
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If on one hand you say Americans are brainwashed by the government and media then on the other you say Obama was elected because of his "good stuff" on the media, aren't you contradicting yourself?

Its not good stuff if it was just to be elected..

How can people be brainwashed in one area and then not in the other.

You answered this question yourself.. Below..

Personally I feel all politicians lie. The people wanted to hear about health care and both candidates talked about health care. In the end we can only hope that the winner has a real plan and won't continue to BS us about "change" and screw up the country.


Problem about democracy is that its difficult to have any plan, at least a long term plan, and usually in democracy you just end up correcting what the other party screwed up..

Which is why I am for a different political system with one party where all are independent, where one government is democratic and control short term policy while another is a representation of the elite of the nation and set the long term directions.
 
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So lets get this right. If Obama delivers on his campaign promises, then Americans made the right choice and aren't brainwashed, but if he doesn't deliver than Americans are brainwashed by propoganda. This is like thinking in reverse. Prehaps he was spouting propoganda, something which will be proven over time, but you cannot hold the population responsible for his actual actions after his election. You have to hold that person responsible. All politicians are elected based upon the promise of what they will deliver, especially presidents. Whether they deliver upon those promises, reflects their character(and is probably based more upon the reality of the situation they find themselves in, more than anything else), not the character of the American public.

Nope, only propaganda to get elected in this case if he turns out to not deliver.

Bush didn't deliver anything of what he said in elections.... Usually politicians don't, and they are never held accountable.; Which is a shame..
Bush and the gang, that was brainwashing AND propaganda. The US was brainwashed into accepting him and lured and fooled into electing him a second time, which was so much easier after all the lies and brainwashing of he first period in the white house.
 
Nope, only propaganda to get elected in this case if he turns out to not deliver.

Bush didn't deliver anything of what he said in elections.... Usually politicians don't, and they are never held accountable.; Which is a shame..
Bush and the gang, that was brainwashing AND propaganda. The US was brainwashed into accepting him and lured and fooled into electing him a second time, which was so much easier after all the lies and brainwashing of he first period in the white house.

I think your definition of brainwashing reads simply as "People made a decision I didn't agree with, therefore they must have been brainwashed or fooled". Especially because to you, its only propoganda if Obama does not behave the way you expect him to. Propoganda can still be consider so, even if it delivers what it promises.
 
I think your definition of brainwashing reads simply as "People made a decision I didn't agree with, therefore they must have been brainwashed or fooled". Especially because to you, its only propoganda if Obama does not behave the way you expect him to. Propoganda can still be consider so, even if it delivers what it promises.
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Nah.. Thats just ridiculous. Thats not what I said at all and claiming what others have said is just a ridiculous and unworthy way of debating.

I know this because you said you would like to have a date with George W Bush and perform more face lifts on his wife Laura Bush. Thats what I think your definition of politics is.. :lol:



I never said that about Obama...


But the WAY HE SAID HE WOULD BEHAVE, nothing to do with my expectations or not. Just like I know you expected Bush to do great but that you later admitted that he was a braindead drone(after your date with him) like I believe you said.. :lol:
 
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Nah.. Thats just ridiculous. Thats not what I said at all and claiming what others have said is just a ridiculous and unworthy way of debating.

I know this because you said you would like to have a date with George W Bush and perform more face lifts on his wife Laura Bush. Thats what I think your definition of politics is.. :lol:



I never said that about Obama...


But the WAY HE SAID HE WOULD BEHAVE, nothing to do with my expectations or not. Just like I know you expected Bush to do great but that you later admitted that he was a braindead drone(after your date with him) like I believe you said.. :lol:

Not sure where the dating stuff is coming in.

I like to boil things down to their basic parts. You are giving the impression that you are saying "People that don't behave in ways I agree with must be brainwashed." The kind of people that usually employ that "logic", fit neatly into the brainwashed category themselves. Even though I don't agree with others opinions all the time(it would be impossible to do so), I value differing opinions, and don't discard the ones I don't like as inferior or brainwashed.
 
Not sure where the dating stuff is coming in.

I like to boil things down to their basic parts. You are giving the impression that you are saying "People that don't behave in ways I agree with must be brainwashed." The kind of people that usually employ that "logic", fit neatly into the brainwashed category themselves. Even though I don't agree with others opinions all the time(it would be impossible to do so), I value differing opinions, and don't discard the ones I don't like as inferior or brainwashed.

"People that don't behave in ways I agree with must be brainwashed."

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Show me where I ever said that.. Its just you misunderstanding things that understood it like that.. I would be the last people on earth to say anything close to that.

All the dating stuff was just a demonstration of how silly things can get if we just claim a bunch of stuff about the other guy on this forum which is untrue or quote things he never actually said. :(
 
Sometimes our brains get dirty and they need washing.

I've always been told I have a dirty mind, so maybe I'm overdue for a scrubbing.
 
Sometimes our brains get dirty and they need washing.

I've always been told I have a dirty mind, so maybe I'm overdue for a scrubbing.

That reminds me.. I am off to see some American moves, then I will be back later :2wave:
 
Keep your tin foil hat on tightly!

And as always you just brush of everything that don't suit your view as "nothing"... :)

I don't use a tin foil hat, actually I never use hats at all, I often use sunglasses though :mrgreen:
 
You try to define the sides as Republican and Democrat.
That's bogus and it's what media does.
 
You try to define the sides as Republican and Democrat.
That's bogus and it's what media does.

I don't see people voting differently, so this particular stereotype goes for almost all Americans, unlike any of my other stereotyping which are usually specific to certain groups, minorities or sometimes even small majorities.
 
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