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Will Harris hurt, help, or make no difference for Biden?

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lurchadams said:
Yes, and we can thank trump for that.
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I honestly think it will be a landslide for Biden/Harris, but I wasn't sure I had as much optimism about Harris raising Obama levels of excitement.
 
Carolina said:
I honestly think it will be a landslide for Biden/Harris, but I wasn't sure I had as much optimism about Harris raising Obama levels of excitement.
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It's a brilliant pick. A mixed race, moderate/progressive ticket running against two old, corrupt, racist, morons? Just the optics are a winner!
 
lurchadams said:
It's a historic pick. It will motivate the minority and progressive vote like no one has ever seen before.
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:doh :boom
Carolina said:
You think it'll motivate people more than Obama motivated them in 2008?
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:applaud
lurchadams said:
Nice racist, slut-shaming post. You've outdone yourself!
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Way to descend to that level.

Carolina said:
I honestly think it will be a landslide for Biden/Harris, but I wasn't sure I had as much optimism about Harris raising Obama levels of excitement.
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Find me some group that is against Trump now that was not in 2016. It's not hard to find the opposite.

The opposition is static but Trump's camp has grown and they are angry about all the abuse.
 
OrphanSlug said:
Unsure I really like the choice, but at this point Biden could have picked a puppy dog as his running mate and still probably win.
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Probably right!

Biden it always seemed to me has repeatedly gone after the sympathy vote for obvious reasons
but this selection settles it. Kamala Harris with that sickening chalk on the blackboard nasal voice,
and a laugh as distinctively repulsive as Hillary Clintons will give those sympathetic Biden hopefuls
more reason to pull the Biden lever in November & there are a lot of those voters who feel sorry for Joe.

Having one more 'cross to bare' picking Kamala may just be Joe's ticket to the White House considering
the unique way some people determine their choice for POTUS.
 
lurchadams said:
It's a brilliant pick. A mixed race, moderate/progressive ticket running against two old, corrupt, racist, morons? Just the optics are a winner!
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Do you realize how racist this post is?

We should vote for Biden because Harris isn't white? The optics are better?

There's nothing progressive about anarchy, socialism, and atheistic chaos.
 
1944 Senator Truman

1948 Senator Barkley

1952 Senator Sparkman - Loss

1956 Senator Kefauver - Loss

1960 Senator Johnson

1964 Senator Humphrey

1968 Senator Muskie - Robbed (see Anna Chennault)

1972 Mr. Shriver - Loss

1976 Senator Mondale

1980 Senator Mondale - Robbed (see October Surprise)

1984 Rep. Ferraro -Loss

1992 Senator Gore

1996 Senator Gore

2000 Senator Lieberman - Robbed (see Jeb Bush and "special sauce", SCOTUS "ruling")

2004 Senator Edwards - Loss

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* With Honorable Mention: "Senator (Quayle), I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine...."
 
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ReubenSherr said:
Do you realize how racist this post is?

We should vote for Biden because Harris isn't white? The optics are better?

There's nothing progressive about anarchy, socialism, and atheistic chaos.
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Wow, your opinion matters so much to me. Please, do tell me more!
 
BrotherFease said:
Biden has made it official. His running mate will be Kamala Harris, unless she withdraws or gets "cancelled".

Do you think this pick will help him, hurt him, or make no difference in the electoral college?

Traditionally, Vice Presidents make no difference in the Electoral College. Some argue it'll make a big difference, seeing as how Biden will be 78 years old soon. If elected, he would be the oldest President of the all-time, beating Reagan's 77.

HELP - He's going to motivate black voters in the swing states and help beat Donald Trump.

HURT - Voters will be turned away, by her record as California Attorney General and/or so-called personality problems.

NO DIFFERENCE - It will not make a single difference.
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Actually, the VP is often picked to bolster demographics where the presidential candidate is weak. JFK (Massachusetts) picked LBJ (Texas) and it made a huge difference. Kennedy lost the popular vote yet became president.

Harris is probably going to energize the black turnout in many key districts.
 
Jay59 said:
:doh :boom

:applaud

Way to descend to that level.


Find me some group that is against Trump now that was not in 2016. It's not hard to find the opposite.

The opposition is static but Trump's camp has grown and they are angry about all the abuse.
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I've posted it several times. In 2016 i was in a family of 6 Trump voters. My family is now a group of 7 Biden voters thanks to older voters dying, younger voters reaching voting age, and 2 of the Trump voters that held their noses and voted for him last time, and won't this time. That is something I am seeing in leaps and bounds in my community... and considering my Community is in a State that matters... I think Trump is Toast.
 
justabubba said:
biden and the DNC are trying to give back the white house with such a stupid, stupid selection
yes, some black voters who otherwise would have sat home will show up at the polls
but lots of other voters will be turned off by harris and will not show up
some independents may now get swayed to vote for tRump because of biden's VP choice

the RNC must have massive amounts of opposition research on harris. this was the VP selection they were hoping for
Tammy Duckworth was unassailable
Susan Rice is brilliant
so, that dope, biden had to make the weakest of all candidates his choice

if the RNC brightens up and runs Condi Rice instead of tRump, my vote will be with the republicans

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Wait. So you aren't going to vote for trump if pence is still the VP? Your problem is with PENCE?
 
Indie guy said:
Actually Harris is a pretty strong choice.

But the main problem with this is Biden is picking her just because she's female and she's non-white. That's all there is to it and nobody can deny this fact.
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Anybody can deny that opinion. trump gets away with his loathsome behavior because he's male and white. That's all there is to it and nobody can deny THIS fact.
 
Indie guy said:
You're right. People aren't always treated fairly because of things like gender, skin color, and appearance overall.

That's wrong on all levels, but trying to make up for the inequality by favoring females and people of color isn't a good solution, especially when it purposely discriminates against white males.
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I love it how some people think that white males should be the default setting.
 
Indie guy said:
There's really a very logical, sensible, and rather easy solution.

Hire a person based on qualifications, skills, intelligence, background, and what meaningful contributions he or she will bring forth. Forget about gender, race, skin color, national origin, sexual preference, or physical attractiveness.

Let's just face the facts. Biden clearly said he wanted a woman for VP. That alone discriminates against men. He purposely chose a woman and a person of color. You can't expect to make up for past inequalities within a certain gender or race by being discriminatory toward another gender or race.
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After centuries of choosing only white males, was that discriminatory?
 
jcgriff2 said:
She is like a brainless pit bull who allowed innocent convicted people to languish in prison (and she knew it) because of her Brady violations when she was CA Attorney General.

She is the main reason for so many black men in prison in California.

She should be ashamed of herself.

Certainly not VP material, let alone presidential material (God forbid).

She will thankfully hurt Biden because of her mouth.
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I think you need to be more worried about trump's mouth.
 
Jay59 said:
:doh :boom

:applaud

Way to descend to that level.


Find me some group that is against Trump now that was not in 2016. It's not hard to find the opposite.

The opposition is static but Trump's camp has grown and they are angry about all the abuse.
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A whole lot of republicans are now against trump. Can you point to evidence that trump's camp "has grown?"
 
slick said:
Probably right!

Biden it always seemed to me has repeatedly gone after the sympathy vote for obvious reasons
but this selection settles it. Kamala Harris with that sickening chalk on the blackboard nasal voice,
and a laugh as distinctively repulsive as Hillary Clintons will give those sympathetic Biden hopefuls
more reason to pull the Biden lever in November & there are a lot of those voters who feel sorry for Joe.

Having one more 'cross to bare' picking Kamala may just be Joe's ticket to the White House considering
the unique way some people determine their choice for POTUS.
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bear...
 
I would argue that it would hurt Biden. He's already a lackluster candidate that people aren't particularly enthused about. Now you bring on Kamala Harris who is known for her horrid legal record (arresting the parents of truant children) and it turns an already bad situation worse as many progressives are going to have a number of issues with her.
 
Middleground said:
I agree with what is mostly said here. But jeepers, roguenuke.... do you not think it's high time there is better representation for women and people of colour? It's 2020... we need to get with the program. Old white men have dominated politics for too long -- and no one is going to convince me that it's because all were the better candidates.
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I would have preferred someone else. She comes off as a bitch.

I have no issue with him picking a black woman. I have issue with limiting the criteria when making a choice to those factors. If we are really going to make this a country where race and sex don't matter when it comes to making decisions, especially in jobs, then race and sex shouldn't matter in either direction. I do recognize it as a necessary evil to even the playing field up while those things do matter to a certain percentage of people who would consider either minorities or women to be inferior but we need to make sure we don't go too far either.

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Jay59 said:
:doh :boom

:applaud

Way to descend to that level.


Find me some group that is against Trump now that was not in 2016. It's not hard to find the opposite.

The opposition is static but Trump's camp has grown and they are angry about all the abuse.
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All indications are that Trump has lost support from both moderates and even some Republicans. On top of that, many Deomcrats are more fired up about simply getting him out of office since he has indicated more than once he is very anti-Dem.

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