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Who will Biden pick as his Vice President? (The final, final poll)

Biden will pick...

  • Kamala Harris

    Votes: 6 28.6%

  • Susan Rice

    Votes: 10 47.6%

  • Elizabeth Warren

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Keisha Lance Bottom

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Val Demings

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 5 23.8%
  • Total voters
    21
  • Poll closed .
Rogue Valley said:
I voted for Susan Rice. Highly educated with a PhD in International Relations. Female, and a woman of color. Rice and Biden have previously worked well together under Obama.

With Dr. Rice you don't lose a valuable Senate seat. Experienced enough to manage the US foreign policy portfolio. Definitely wouldn't suck up to Putin and the other dictators.

She is very articulate and a good speaker. Rice could be to Biden what Biden was to Obama ... the Devil's Advocate.
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If he picks Rice she’ll cost him votes.
 
BrotherFease said:
What is your final prediction? Per Election Betting Odds, they have Harris and Rice relatively even with each other. No other candidate comes remotely close to Harris or Rice. You can see the odds here: Election Betting Odds by Maxim Lott and John Stossel

From everything I have read, it's going to come down to either Harris or Rice. Salon and the Wall Street Journal reported that Rice sold her Netflix stock. That's seen as a sign that she probably going to win the nomination. As far as I can see, here are the pros and cons for each candidate:

PRO
Harris - U.S Senator, previously ran for President in 2019, about 22 years younger than Biden, and parents were immigrants from India and Jamaica.

Rice - Had a close working relationship with Biden during the Obama years, worked in high level White House positions for roughly 11 years, about 22 years younger than Biden, and brings forth Obama nostalgia.

CON
Harris - Attacked Biden on busing in the first debate. Members of Biden's inner circle are not happy about that. They became even more unhappy when she admitted it was a political stunt and nothing more.

Rice - Never ran for office before. Seen as a blank slate. If she gets the nomination, the GOP will bring up Benghazi again, even though 8 investigations lead by the GOP cleared her of any wrongdoing.

Among Democrat voters, the top three choices are Harris, Warren and Rice in that order. All of them are registering in double-digits.

I have mentioned this before, but since 1944, 17 out of the 19 Democratic Vice Presidents served in the United States Senate.
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I count 7 Democratic vice presidents since 1944. Truman, Barkley, LBJ, Humphrey, Mondale, Gore and Biden. All served in the senate. I wonder if 1944 wasn't a typo?

Anyway, I suppose you're right about Harris and or Rice. But my favorite is Tammy Duckworth.
 
Biden never committed to a "Woman of Color". He committed to a Woman. He then released his list of candidates that included Women of Color.

In my opinion, Warren is the best choice. She polls the best of all of them, she polls the highest in the Blue Wall States.

Duckworth is my second choice.

I'm aware that Harris and Rice are the two viewed as the most likely to win the spot, and I think it really is a coin toss. I voted Rice because of her long personal relationship with Biden, something I think he values.... but I'll be unsurprised if it goes to Harris.
 
Rice smells the best. Harris still smells like Willie Brown.

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BrotherFease said:
The big positive for Warren would be she would please the Democratic base. Polls show she's very popular with them, especially among the under 45 crowd. But as we have discussed before, the golden rule is "Do no harm".

Biden is doing extremely well in the polls. There's no need for a Hail Mary pick, like Ferraro or Palin. The biggest thing Biden has in his pocket is connection to Obama.
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Warren isn't popular among independents. It might be a good idea for Biden and company to remember the reason Trump is president is because of the independent vote. Especially in delivering the three deciding states of Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. Warren would surely please the Democratic progressives, but I do think she would hurt Biden among independents who aren't that far left ideologically. Only 31% of independents have a positive view of Warren 42% negative, the rest are in the don't know column.

In almost any other year I'd say the VP nominee doesn't matter much. Most people vote the top of the ticket with very little attention given to the VP. But with Biden's age, his pick will be much more important this year than any other election year.
 
This is what identity politics has given us. No longer is it important to select the most qualified person.


If Biden wanted to pick the most qualified woman, he’d try to persuade Condoleezza Rice to join his ticket. Of course she wouldn’t.
 
Citizen Joe could pick a ham and cheese on rye, hold the mayo, and it would be a far greater pick than Trump's trained monkey VP Pence.

Would love to see Citizen Joe agree to that 4th debate with ersatz president Trump before early voting starts and then on debate night Joe sends his VP pick in his place to debate Donny Dip Stick.

That would be fun.

:lamo
 
Tahuyaman said:
This is what identity politics has given us. No longer is it important to select the most qualified person.


If Biden wanted to pick the most qualified woman, he’d try to persuade Condoleezza Rice to join his ticket. Of course she wouldn’t.
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When was it ever important to select the most qualified person?
 
LouC said:
Citizen Joe could pick a ham and cheese on rye, hold the mayo, and it would be a far greater pick than Trump's trained monkey VP Pence.

Would love to see Citizen Joe agree to that 4th debate with ersatz president Trump before early voting starts and then on debate night Joe sends his VP pick in his place to debate Donny Dip Stick.

That would be fun.

:lamo
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Compelling comment.
 
Perotista said:
I count 7 Democratic vice presidents since 1944. Truman, Barkley, LBJ, Humphrey, Mondale, Gore and Biden. All served in the senate. I wonder if 1944 wasn't a typo?
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Not a typo. Let me lay it out for you:

2016 - Tim Kaine (Senator from Virigina)
2012 & 2008 - Joe Biden (Senator from Delaware)
2004 - John Edwards (Senator from North Carolina)
2000 - Joe Lieberman (Senator from Connecticut)
1996 & 1992 - Al Gore (Senator from Tennessee)
1988 - Lloyd Bentsen (Senator from Texas)
1980 & 1976 - Walter Mondale (Senator from Minnesota)
1968 - Edmund Muskie (Senator from Maine)
1964 - Hubert Humphrey (Senator from Minnesota)
1960 - Lyndon Johnson (Senator from Texas)
1956 - Estes Kefauver (Senator from Kentucky)
1952 - John Sparkman (Senator from Alabama)
1948 - Alben W. Barkley (Senator from Kentucky)
1944 - Harry S. Truman (Senator from Missouri)

The only two years were 1984 and 1972.

Democrats pick Senators for the position. If Thomas Eagleton didn't decline the Vice Presidential nomination, it would have been 18 out of 19.
 
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Cordelier said:
I'm not surprised... you're prepared to vote for a blubbering borderline idiot... for the second time!
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I never voted for president in 2016. Why should I start now? Two equally bad choices.
 
Schism said:
Rice smells the best. Harris still smells like Willie Brown.

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That is not an accurate portrayal of what Citizen Joe Biden is doing.

Moreover he has a been working with a very long list of qualified women and has been doing a thorough job of vetting all of them.

But hey it is a cartoon, so it must be funny, right?
 
jaypatriot said:
I never voted for president in 2016. Why should I start now? Two equally bad choices.
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That is your choice, it is a dumb choice, in my considered opinion, but that is the great thing about the right to vote, it isn't a demand to vote.

Woo Hoo!

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He should pick Oprah. She is Black and female; basically the only two requirements he seems to feel matters--- so why not?
 
BrotherFease said:
Not a typo. Let me lay it out for you:

2016 - Tim Kaine (Senator from Virigina)
2012 & 2008 - Joe Biden (Senator from Delaware)
2004 - John Edwards (Senator from North Carolina)
2000 - Joe Lieberman (Senator from Connecticut)
1996 & 1992 - Al Gore (Senator from Tennessee)
1988 - Lloyd Bentsen (Senator from Texas)
1980 & 1976 - Walter Mondale (Senator from Minnesota)
1968 - Edmund Muskie (Senator from Maine)
1964 - Hubert Humphrey (Senator from Minnesota)
1960 - Lyndon Johnson (Senator from Texas)
1956 - Estes Kefauver (Senator from Kentucky)
1952 - John Sparkman (Senator from Alabama)
1948 - Alben W. Barkley (Senator from Kentucky)
1944 - Harry S. Truman (Senator from Missouri)

The only two years were 1984 and 1972.

Democrats pick Senators for the position. If Thomas Eagleton didn't decline the Vice Presidential nomination, it would have been 18 out of 19.
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Okay, I see the confusion, you stated, "I have mentioned this before, but since 1944, 17 out of the 19 Democratic Vice Presidents served in the United States Senate." Vice President nominees wasn't mentioned. I read that as 17 out of 19 Democratic Vice Presidents who served or who were actually Vice Presidents. Which is different from 17 out of 19 Vice President nominees.

No biggie, just pointing out where I became confused.
 
jaypatriot said:
I never voted for president in 2016. Why should I start now? Two equally bad choices.
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I did, I voted against the two equally bad choices or candidates by casting a ballot for a third party candidate, Johnson. I wanted my disgust and disdain for both Trump and Clinton officially registered. I wasn't alone going to the polls in 2016 to officially register their disgust and disdain for both major party by voting against both, 9 million other folks did the same as I. Both major parties deserve to be thrown on the trash heap of history for coming up with such awful choices. If that is the best each party can do, we're doomed as a country.
 
Perotista said:
Okay, I see the confusion, you stated, "I have mentioned this before, but since 1944, 17 out of the 19 Democratic Vice Presidents served in the United States Senate." Vice President nominees wasn't mentioned. I read that as 17 out of 19 Democratic Vice Presidents who served or who were actually Vice Presidents. Which is different from 17 out of 19 Vice President nominees.

No biggie, just pointing out where I became confused.
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Glad I could clear that up. But you see the point: Democrats lean heavily toward Senators for some reason. I get that VPs are considered to be the President of the Senate, but their role is pretty limited to settling the 50-50 tie.
 
LouC said:
That is not an accurate portrayal of what Citizen Joe Biden is doing.

Moreover he has a been working with a very long list of qualified women and has been doing a thorough job of vetting all of them.

But hey it is a cartoon, so it must be funny, right?
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How can Joe choose the candidate that's best suited for the job when the very first thing he does is exclude everyone except women with a certain skin color? The way I see it, Joe is pandering for being an old, white, male.

"Look everyone! I got me a black woke woman, because I'm trendy!"

Why did Joe exclude Hispanic and Asian males from his pool of candidates? It just seems sexist and racist to me.
 
BrotherFease said:
Glad I could clear that up. But you see the point: Democrats lean heavily toward Senators for some reason. I get that VPs are considered to be the President of the Senate, but their role is pretty limited to settling the 50-50 tie.
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Yeah, but there were three governors as presidents, FDR, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. We'll see who Biden Picks. He may surprise us all.
 
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