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Is Trump concealing a serious medical condition?

Is Trump concealing a serious medical condition?

  • Yes, probably

    Votes: 27 47.4%

  • No, I doubt it

    Votes: 17 29.8%

  • I don't know

    Votes: 13 22.8%
  • Total voters
    57
Lursa said:
Fact. I cant show something that doesnt exist.

If you can show some authority that American people are obligated to obey that says the unborn have rights...let's see it.
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I'm having Deja Vu here...

Show me a source that says the unborn do NOT have rights.
 
ReubenSherr said:
I'm having Deja Vu here...

Show me a source that says the unborn do NOT have rights.
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Fact. I cant show something that doesnt exist.

If you can show some authority that American people are obligated to obey that says the unborn have rights...let's see it.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Lursa said:
Fact. I cant show something that doesnt exist.

If you can show some authority that American people are obligated to obey that says the unborn have rights...let's see it.
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Lursa, do you have another argument to make, besides repeating the same exact post over and over? :lamo
 
ReubenSherr said:
Lursa, do you have another argument to make, besides repeating the same exact post over and over? :lamo
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There's no argument to make. The unborn have no rights in the US.

Here's some stuff from my OneNote. If you disagree, you'll have to post your own sources.

Both*Roe*and*Casey*establish that states have a “important and legitimate interest in potential life.” As a constitutional matter, therefore, fetuses don’t have any rights—states do. And in the abortion context, it is the right of the state to protect potential life that is legally significant—not the right of the fetus to grow from juridical personhood to natural personhood.
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Roe v. Wade and Fetal Personhood: Juridical Persons Are Not Natural Persons, And Why it Matters - Rewire.News

The 14th Amendment
Section 1

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
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1 U.S. Code SS 8 - “Person”, “human being”, “child”, and “individual” as including born-alive infant | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute

(a)
In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the words “person”, “human being”, “child”, and*“individual”, shall include every infant member of the species homo sapiens who is*born alive at any stage of development.
(b)
As used in this section, the term “born alive”, with respect to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the complete expulsion or extraction from his or her mother of that member, at any stage of development, who after such expulsion or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been cut, and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced abortion.
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This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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ReubenSherr said:
This is an interpretation of the law from Cornell University lol, no?

There's nothing in the Constitution defining a person as a born-alive infant.

More importantly, why would you want to err on the side of someone not getting the chance to live?
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Nope...it is the actual legal code, as written.

And I gave you something that expressly said there are no Const rights for the unborn. The 14th Amendment also specified it clearly. Did you not understand what you read?

Now...before I answer any of your questions...if you still disagree and insist the unborn have rights, please prove it.


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Greenbeard said:
The internet's been abuzz with as-yet-unsubstantiated rumors of another unscheduled run to the hospital for Trump yesterday. Regardless of whether that turns out to be true, it does call to mind nagging questions that have been lurking at least since Trump was rushed to Walter Reed in November for an unscheduled visit that the White House later implausibly claimed was part of a multi-visit routine physical.

Putting aside his strange behavior and increasingly obvious mood swings ("nobody likes me!"), the oddities are starting to add up. An apparent inability to walk normally unassisted at times, occasional difficulty holding objects, frequent issues with slurring his speech or other difficulties with language (e.g., "oranges" of the Mueller investigation), frequent bouts of confusion, and recently an open admission to having struggled with the "very hard" questions on the Montreal Cognitive Assessment.

Is there something going on here?
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The only 2020 presidential candidate with very strange behavior this past week (many years, actually) is as usual Joe Biden.

Poor Joe had a hell of a week topping it off with a racist statement about African-Americans and Latinos -




Biden is more and more fixated on the races (not political) lately and I not only hope that he continues, but that his comments get worse and really offend minority groups much worse than he has in prior weeks and months. That bastard has been at th top to call Trump racist at every turn for anything and everything and finally, the jackass is getting some payback. Payback is a bitch, Joe, as many have said.

And then we also had Pelosi say on-air (sorry - cannot find the video) that she was being misquoted or similar. Gee, Nancy, how does it feel to be the recipient of fake news for a change instead of being the one leaking fake-news against Trump - which Pelosi has done for well over 4 years now.

Pelosi apparently does not like being asked adversarial questions and got pissed off when it happened. What a bitch! Now she finally got a taste of what she and others have put Trump through for over 5 years now.
 
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uptower said:
Okay so it could have arrived as early as december, but let's take Feb 28 as the first known Covid death at the time. There have been 22 outings since march 7 and today. The current death toll from the virus stands at 164,094 (or something like 52X9/11).

So 164,000 divided by 22 equals 7458 deaths per golf trip. That's two and a half 9/11s each outing.

I wonder if his apathy is part of his illness...
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Thanks! I hadn't had the chance to do the math!

Well, only 7,458 per golf outing.

Acceptable collateral damage, indeed.

It is what it is.

:(
 
Lursa said:
And yet, any laws criminalizing the right of a woman to do so is a violation of her 4th and 14th Amendment rights. Any enforcement to that end would be violations of the 13th.

All lives matter but with born and unborn they cannot be treated equally. Not legally, not morally.

I value the unborn but value all born people more. Which do you value more? And remember, they cannot be treated equally. Or, if you believe they can...please explain how.
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The simple fact is if my mother had an abortion she would have killed her son. That is enough for me to know it is wrong.
 
jcgriff2 said:
The only 2020 presidential candidate with very strange behavior this past week (many years, actually) is as usual Joe Biden
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Biden’s a gaffe machine, it’s been his defining political characteristic for decades. This thread is about Trump’s increasing difficulty walking, talking, and thinking, as well as his unscheduled emergency hospital visits.

What’s behind the visible deterioration of his motor functions? Why is he borderline incoherent when speaking without a script? How bad will it get, and how quickly?
 
Mr Person said:
It's quite possible. Alzheimer's, dementia, etc., there are a whole bunch of diseases that start showing up in that age range. He notoriously does not exercise because he believes the body has a finite amount of energy to spend over its lifetime, and his diet is atrocious. Could easily be a series of small strokes.
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Meanwhile...he^ thinks Biden is normal.
 
Greenbeard said:
Biden’s a gaffe machine, it’s been his defining political characteristic for decades. This thread is about Trump’s increasing difficulty walking, talking, and thinking, as well as his unscheduled emergency hospital visits.

What’s behind the visible deterioration of his motor functions? Why is he borderline incoherent when speaking without a script? How bad will it get, and how quickly?
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Same crowd^ watched Hillary go legless, get tossed in a van and ruahed off and went..."Shes fine!"
 
AlphaOmega said:
Meanwhile...he^ thinks Biden is normal.
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Biden’s old, no doubt. But he walks without dragging one foot, can go up and down slight inclines unassisted, and hasn’t shown any difficulty in grasping objects. So whatever’s afflicting Trump doesn’t seem to be present in Biden.
 
Greenbeard said:
Biden’s old, no doubt. But he walks without dragging one foot, can go up and down slight inclines unassisted, and hasn’t shown any difficulty in grasping objects.
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Lol if you had actually watched Trump's rally, you would have heard him explain all this.
 
ReubenSherr said:
Lol if you had actually watched Trump's rally, you would have heard him explain all this.
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I missed it, I forgot GOP campaign rallies now devote large amounts of time to “explaining” neurological anomalies.
 
Greenbeard said:
I missed it, I forgot GOP campaign rallies now devote large amounts of time to “explaining” neurological anomalies.
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You all made a huge deal of the fact that he was trying not to get water on his tie lol. :lamo
 
ReubenSherr said:
You all made a huge deal of the fact that he was trying not to get water on his tie lol. :lamo
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Right.

Because everyone needs to drink with two hands so they don’t spill.

[emoji849]

Man. You’re gullible.

Did you ever get recruited to sell Amway? You’d be such an easy mark.
 
Threegoofs said:
Right.

Because everyone needs to drink with two hands so they don’t spill.
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If the President of the United States wants to use two hands to hold a cup so water doesn't spill on his tie, lol it's his choice.

Trump in Tulsa: The president explains what happened with the ramp at West Point’s commencement.

“Well, I know what you did, you had on a very good red tie that’s sort of expensive.” It’s silk, because they look better, they have a better sheen to ’em. And I don’t want to get water on the tie, and I don’t want to drink much, so I lifted up the water. I see we have a little glass of water, where the hell did this water come from, right? Where did it come from? And I looked down at my tie, ’cause I’ve done it, I’ve taken water, and it spills down into your tie, it doesn’t look good for a long time. And frankly the tie is never the same. So I put it up to my lip, and then I say—because I don’t want it to! Just in case.

I don't understand what the accusation is here...That he didn't have enough strength in one arm lol?

The left wing conspiracy theories never end.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
The simple fact is if my mother had an abortion she would have killed her son. That is enough for me to know it is wrong.
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It was wrong for her. Your mother had the right to make her choice.

That doesnt mean it's wrong for every woman...every woman's needs and circumstances are different.

As long as people dont feel the need to force their choice on others, I dont see any issues.


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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ReubenSherr said:
If the President of the United States wants to use two hands to hold a cup so water doesn't spill on his tie, lol it's his choice.

Trump in Tulsa: The president explains what happened with the ramp at West Point’s commencement.

“Well, I know what you did, you had on a very good red tie that’s sort of expensive.” It’s silk, because they look better, they have a better sheen to ’em. And I don’t want to get water on the tie, and I don’t want to drink much, so I lifted up the water. I see we have a little glass of water, where the hell did this water come from, right? Where did it come from? And I looked down at my tie, ’cause I’ve done it, I’ve taken water, and it spills down into your tie, it doesn’t look good for a long time. And frankly the tie is never the same. So I put it up to my lip, and then I say—because I don’t want it to! Just in case.

I don't understand what the accusation is here...That he didn't have enough strength in one arm lol?

The left wing conspiracy theories never end.
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The guy can’t drink water with one hand because he will spill it.

Seems a bit like lack of motor coordination to me, which is a sign of dementia.
 
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Greenbeard said:
Biden’s old, no doubt. But he walks without dragging one foot, can go up and down slight inclines unassisted, and hasn’t shown any difficulty in grasping objects. So whatever’s afflicting Trump doesn’t seem to be present in Biden.
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Good god....you know Trump made you guys look like idiots on that right? Oh wait...you didn't. That's even funnier.
 
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