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What can we agree on?

What can we agree on?

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X, I did not check "Free exercise of religion is a constitutional right". I believe that it is but I believe it requires explanation. Everyone has the right to practice his/her own religion in the United States as long as the practice of religion is not sponsored by the government and as long as it does not infringe on the rights of those who do not practice a given religion.

A very good friend of mine is the pastor of a large Baptist church in a large Southern city. He is a prince of guy. I greatly respect him as a person, a friend and a community leader.

Once over lunch I asked him what his position was regarding prayer in school. He said, "This is between us. As the pastor of a large Baptist church in _______ (a large Southern city) I am strongly in favor of it. If I was the pastor of a small Baptist church in Salt Lake City I'd would be opposed to it."
 
Risky Thicket said:
X, I did not check "Free exercise of religion is a constitutional right". I believe that it is but I believe it requires explanation. Everyone has the right to practice his/her own religion in the United States as long as the practice of religion is not sponsored by the government and as long as it does not infringe on the rights of those who do not practice a given religion.

A very good friend of mine is the pastor of a large Baptist church in a large Southern city. He is a prince of guy. I greatly respect him as a person, a friend and a community leader.

Once over lunch I asked him what his position was regarding prayer in school. He said, "This is between us. As the pastor of a large Baptist church in _______ (a large Southern city) I am strongly in favor of it. If I was the pastor of a small Baptist church in Salt Lake City I'd would be opposed to it."
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I understand Risky but can I ask, then, why did you not have any similar reservations about how protest is a constitutional right? Protest also shouldn’t infringe on any other rights that don’t agree with them, should they?
 
X Factor said:
I understand Risky but can I ask, then, why did you not have any similar reservations about how protest is a constitutional right? Protest also shouldn’t infringe on any other rights that don’t agree with them, should they?
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Yikes! Good question. As I deliberated over checking freedom of religion I guess I missed checking the right to protest. I fully support the right to protest. I do not support violence and destruction of property and neither does the Constitution.
 
X Factor said:
Seems the left and right have little in common anymore but let’s see. I’m going to attach a poll listing some random things. Vote for all the ones you agree with.
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Term limits.
Single-payer healthcare.
Universal Basic Income.

I can be friends with anyone who also supports those things.
 
Phys251 said:
Most of these we will all agree on.

For part two, I encourage you to focus on science. We can start with the basics, such as, "The Earth is round"...
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There's a reason you only ever see flat pictures of Earth [emoji6]
 
Phys251 said:
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Risky Thicket said:
Yikes! Good question. As I deliberated over checking freedom of religion I guess I missed checking the right to protest. I fully support the right to protest. I do not support violence and destruction of property and neither does the Constitution.
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Violence is not protest. I think you're overthinking it.
 
trixare4kids said:
I'm talking to you. Don't like the talk, feel free not to listen.
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Hey, as long as you don't mind being wrong to the point of looking ridiculous, and me not caring what you have to say, have at it. :shrug: It's useful to have a convenient example readily available at all times, and in that way you never fail to disappoint.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Yikes! Good question. As I deliberated over checking freedom of religion I guess I missed checking the right to protest. I fully support the right to protest. I do not support violence and destruction of property and neither does the Constitution.
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Actually, Risky, did you vote at all? No worries if you didn’t, I just assumed you did based on your comment to me.
 
Wayne Jr said:
Term limits.
Single-payer healthcare.
Universal Basic Income.

I can be friends with anyone who also supports those things.
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Best I can offer you is I’m torn on term limits, hell no to the other two.
 
Lutherf said:
That theory will hold up only until Trump says something about gravity. If he endorses gravity as a way to keep things on the ground then all bets are off.
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You have reason to believe Trump understands gravity?
 
X Factor said:
Who, exactly, do you guys think you’re speaking for? At least Trix got what I was trying to do here.
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She did, huh. Go back to my first post, and see how she reacted to it, and what came next. Then use that in your reflection on how what you're trying to do here went for you. And, yes, this is totally on topic.
 
OlNate said:
She did, huh. Go back to my first post, and see how she reacted to it, and what came next. Then use that in your reflection on how what you're trying to do here went for you. And, yes, this is totally on topic.
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Yeah, I did... Just stop and take some deep breaths.
Put your juvenile antics aside momentarily, and go back and read where I said XFactor's missive was to prove we think more alike than not.

You be sure and have a lovely evening...
 
X Factor said:
Who, exactly, do you guys think you’re speaking for? At least Trix got what I was trying to do here.
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You did an excellent job of it too. Look at the numbers. Hardly any disparity!
 
trixare4kids said:
Yeah, I did... Just stop and take some deep breaths.
Put your juvenile antics aside momentarily, and go back and read where I said XFactor's missive was to prove we think more alike than not.

You be sure and have a lovely evening...
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:lamo You as well, dear friend.
 
X Factor said:
Best I can offer you is I’m torn on term limits, hell no to the other two.
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Why be torn on term limits? You either want the exact same people who've been in office for the last 30+ years to stay in office for another 30+ years, or you don't.
 
Ah yes, 20% don't believe black lives matter. According to this poll they matter even less than all lives do. Very nice.
 
X Factor said:
Social welfare programs are necessary
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I clicked this one but it's not a blank check for any and all social programs. The reason I support a Basic Universal Income is that it's meant to be a replacement for almost all other social programs. As a replacement, a UBI would drastically reduce red-tape, give the individual far more control over their own lives, and provide more benefit to the recipient at less cost to the taxpayer. Many cities and a few US states are experimenting with different versions of UBI programs.

As it pertains to covid, imagine if we decided to just shut down 99% of everything for 2-4 weeks to get covid under control. We could totally do that if we had a UBI. No one would go without $$$ for food and bills. People who got laid off wouldn't have to try to get unemployment, because they would already have UBI. People like me who have to keep working even when sick could afford to take time off and not infect others.
 
AJG said:
Ah yes, 20% don't believe black lives matter. According to this poll they matter even less than all lives do. Very nice.
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The 20% don't trust the Black Lives Matter organization, they aren't saying that the lives of black people do not matter.
 
Wayne Jr said:
The 20% don't trust the Black Lives Matter organization, they aren't saying that the lives of black people do not matter.
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I think they missed what the poll is asking then. I personally dislike the phrase "all lives matter" since it's primarily used to dismiss and trivialize the black lives matter movement, but I do agree that all lives matter, so I ended up voting for it.
 
Wayne Jr said:
The 20% don't trust the Black Lives Matter organization, they aren't saying that the lives of black people do not matter.
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Agreed. I chose black lives matter, because they do, but the BLM organization is so disjointed that in some areas of the country people are making a positive change, and in others people are destroying cities and creating chaos.
 
AJG said:
I think they missed what the poll is asking then. I personally dislike the phrase "all lives matter" since it's primarily used to dismiss and trivialize the black lives matter movement, but I do agree that all lives matter, so I ended up voting for it.
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It's like saying "all cancers kill" at a breast cancer event. But if Conservative still don't get it then let's go to their next pro-life protest and yell "all beating hearts matter".

OP could have done a much better job of accurately representing each item, too. "Black Lives Matter" and black lives matter are not the same thing. One is a political organization, the other is a chant to draw attention to a grievance. Op listed the chant, not the organization, but people will read it how they want and cause confusion.
 
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X Factor said:
Masks in public are a good idea
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I did not click this one because people are putting way to much trust in cloth masks at the risk of neglecting handwashing and social distancing, which are each far more important than masks. The hysteria, even on this forum where people claim to be intelligent, is so rampant that people rush to accuse you of murder if you don't wear a mask. Wear a mask if you want, but it's the lest of the preventative measures you should be performing.
 
Lutherf said:
That theory will hold up only until Trump says something about gravity. If he endorses gravity as a way to keep things on the ground then all bets are off.
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Gravity is a dem hoax that will disappear, errr, its caused by alien dna.
 
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