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Do you object to gay couples adopting?

Would you allow gay people to adopt?

  • Yes

    Votes: 60 59.4%

  • No

    Votes: 41 40.6%
  • Total voters
    101
I would substitute gay couples for interracial couples or black couples then may be it might make sense for the people who object.
 
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I have absolutely no problem with homosexuals adopting kids. Especially in todays age where there are so many children being thrown away to the state. We need loving people to take care of these children and since studies have shown that there is no difference between homosexual and heterosexual rasing of kids I do not object.

Now to address something that keeps being talked about here in this thread. Kids being mean to kids of homosexuals. Well hate to burst ya all's bubble but kids are means and will find any reason to pick on someone that doesn't fit in thier little world. My folks moved around alot when I was a kid. Do to this I was a loner while growing up. Never wanted to make friends. Unfortenately this made me a target. However just because I was a loner didn't mean that I wouldn't defend myself. It was not uncommon for me to go through a week without having been in at least 1 physical fight. And my folks are heterosexual. So I'm here to tell you that it doesn't matter weather or not a kid is living with heterosexual or homosexual parents. If that kid acts outside the "norm" then they will be picked on.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
So you are against adoption in all forms? Gotcha.
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:spin:

Here - let me clue you in. People generally adopt because either a) they are capable of producing children but would rather adopt instead of adding to the population, or b) they cannot produce children because of a physical irregularity.

Gay couples want to adopt because it is physically impossible for them to produce children.

Straight forward, no spin.
 
Captain Obvious said:
:spin:

Here - let me clue you in. People generally adopt because either a) they are capable of producing children but would rather adopt instead of adding to the population, or b) they cannot produce children because of a physical irregularity.

Gay couples want to adopt because it is physically impossible for them to produce children.

Straight forward, no spin.
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If they can't have kids, does the reason really matter?
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
If they can't have kids, does the reason really matter?
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I'm not stating that my opinion is that gay couples shouldn't adopt - I'm really pretty neither here nor there on issues involving gay people, specifically marriage and adoption.

I just don't care, but I tend to look at the subject from an evolutionary standpoint such that homosexuality is irregular in a sense that it's non-childbearing and otherwise unnatural.

Yeah, I know - here come the "some toads are asexual" or some other animal shows some bizarre tendency, but fact is - essentially all species would cease to exist under homosexual practice.

Having said all of that, and I'm leaving adoption and marriage out of this statement because I'm really nondescript on these issues, I really don't care what gays do in their own privacy. Their business, not mine - and as long as it doesn't involve minors, animals, the mentally deficient or anyone against their will - then have at it. It does piss me off that I have to see them crashing St. Patrick's Day parades with all that "we're here, we're queer" crap.
 
Captain Obvious said:
I'm not stating that my opinion is that gay couples shouldn't adopt - I'm really pretty neither here nor there on issues involving gay people, specifically marriage and adoption.

I just don't care, but I tend to look at the subject from an evolutionary standpoint such that homosexuality is irregular in a sense that it's non-childbearing and otherwise unnatural.

Yeah, I know - here come the "some toads are asexual" or some other animal shows some bizarre tendency, but fact is - essentially all species would cease to exist under homosexual practice.

Having said all of that, and I'm leaving adoption and marriage out of this statement because I'm really nondescript on these issues, I really don't care what gays do in their own privacy. Their business, not mine - and as long as it doesn't involve minors, animals, the mentally deficient or anyone against their will - then have at it. It does piss me off that I have to see them crashing St. Patrick's Day parades with all that "we're here, we're queer" crap.
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Air conditioning is unnatural. No one is saying that everyone should be gay. Our species will survive in spite of a few homosexuals.

The "We're here, we're queer" chants will stop when they have the same rights/benefits as heterosexuals.
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
Air conditioning is unnatural. No one is saying that everyone should be gay. Our species will survive in spite of a few homosexuals.

The "We're here, we're queer" chants will stop when they have the same rights/benefits as heterosexuals.
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Yay - more spin.

And the general dislike of gays will continue as long as people have this crap shoved in their faces when they take their kids to parades.

It's like PETA - there's a way to promote your point and a way to turn public opinion against you.
 
Captain Obvious said:
Yay - more spin.

And the general dislike of gays will continue as long as people have this crap shoved in their faces when they take their kids to parades.

It's like PETA - there's a way to promote your point and a way to turn public opinion against you.
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At least you aren't bothered by the public drunkenness your kids are exposed to at the St. Patty's Day parade. :doh

I'll agree, there are gays that go about it the wrong way like PETA does. That's a small portion that get headlines and they don't represent the community on the whole.

I love animals. I despise PETA.
 
walleye said:
I knew you'd come around to my view.
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:rofl

Yeah, I'm a perverted heterosexual. You should hear about the things my wife and I do. :shock:
 
My wife and I have a son, an adopted daughter, and we are currently adopting another girl. So I think we have some incite into this issue that many others may not.

When you adopt, you have to undergo home studies by a sociologist to see if you are suitable parents for adoption. You also undergo various background checks including criminal record checks, reference checks, income and asset verifications, and various other background / history checks. Indeed, putting together your dossier for an adoption is much more difficult and in depth than buying a home, applying for any kind of job, or just about anything you can think of. As well it should be, after all, we are talking about the life of a child.

The thing is, those checks are almost entirely based in what is the best available science on what a suitable home and environment should be for a child to grow up in. Vetting potential adoptive parents is far to serious of an issue to be based on the personal biases of others.

Good families come in all shapes and sizes. There are great non traditional families and their are horrible traditional families. Most estimates put the number of orphans worldwide at between 100 and 210 million. We are talking about at least 100 million children that will never have a family unless someone adopts them. There are about 120,000 adoptions or so a year in the United States. That means only around 1% or so of U.S. households adopt each year. For an orphan worldwide, the deck is largely stacked against them on ever being adopted. For a special needs orphan worldwide, the chances are very slim that they will ever be adopted...

So how can anyone in good conscience limit the number of potential adoptive families simply based on their own personal or religious bias? As adoptive parents we have met various other families that have adopted, including same sex couples. The thing is, many times gay couples adopt special needs children than no one else wants. It is hard to adopt a child. It is very expensive to adopt a child. Few families are willing to adopt. If a family, even a non-traditional family, is willing to adopt, has the means to adopt, is properly vetted and undergoes a home study and are thus approved as being suitable for adoption, then they should be able to adopt and give a child a family that would not otherwise have one.
 
Frankly I would encourage gay couples to adopt. Almost every gay person I've ever known would make great parents.

Not to mention adoption by a gay couple is about a billion times better than being stuck in the system.
 
Captain Obvious said:
:spin:

Here - let me clue you in. People generally adopt because either a) they are capable of producing children but would rather adopt instead of adding to the population, or b) they cannot produce children because of a physical irregularity.

Gay couples want to adopt because it is physically impossible for them to produce children.

Straight forward, no spin.
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b) is your own spin. If a couple cannot produce children, they cannot produce children. Your changing the words around to fit your agenda doesn't change that fact.

And let me clue you in. Gays can produce children, just not with each other. I suppose you are against artificial insemination, right?
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
b) is your own spin. If a couple cannot produce children, they cannot produce children. Your changing the words around to fit your agenda doesn't change that fact.

And let me clue you in. Gays can produce children, just not with each other. I suppose you are against artificial insemination, right?
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Gay couples want to adopt because it is physically impossible for them to produce children.
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That's a pretty straight-forward statement, no need to twist it into something it's not. Gay couples cannot produce children.

As far as my stance on the issue, see my earlier reply (quoted below for your convenience):

Captain Obvious said:
I'm not stating that my opinion is that gay couples shouldn't adopt - I'm really pretty neither here nor there on issues involving gay people, specifically marriage and adoption.

I just don't care, but I tend to look at the subject from an evolutionary standpoint such that homosexuality is irregular in a sense that it's non-childbearing and otherwise unnatural.

Yeah, I know - here come the "some toads are asexual" or some other animal shows some bizarre tendency, but fact is - essentially all species would cease to exist under homosexual practice.

Having said all of that, and I'm leaving adoption and marriage out of this statement because I'm really nondescript on these issues, I really don't care what gays do in their own privacy. Their business, not mine - and as long as it doesn't involve minors, animals, the mentally deficient or anyone against their will - then have at it. It does piss me off that I have to see them crashing St. Patrick's Day parades with all that "we're here, we're queer" crap.
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walleye said:
The definition of perversion is "not the norm". Gay parents are certainly not the norm.
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Neither are albino parents, red headed parents, or left handed parents.

Next.
 
walleye said:
The definition of perversion is "not the norm". Gay parents are certainly not the norm.
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Posting on a message board is not the norm. Therefore you are perverted.

Come on walleye, how about being honest for once. Is that really the way that you meant to use the word "perverted"? If it is, please admit that my statement about you being perverted because you post on a message board is true.
 
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