Republicans need bigger tent

"Instead of driving around in circles on an ideological cul-de-sac, we need a Party whose brand of conservatism invites and inspires new people to visit us. We need to remain America's conservative alternative to big-government, redistribution-to-extremes liberalism, while building a route into our Party that a non-traditional Republican will want to travel. Our standard should not be universal purity; it should be a more welcoming conservatism."

https://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/RNCreport03182013.pdf

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So after Obama won his second term, republicans came together and decided that they had to open the republican party up to blacks and Hispanics. This was called the "republican autopsy".

That was all forgotten in 2016 when Trump won. Now that Trump is facing a historical loss against Joe Biden things will change.


Once Trump loses in November, do you think republicans will seriously consider opening up the republican party to minorities and women?

It is "open to minorities". The problem is that they tell those minorities that while white people are strong enough to resist the lure of safety net programs, the minorities - especially black people - are somehow inherently different and thus so susceptible to that lure that they end up trapped on a "Democratic plantation."

I can understand why that might piss them off.




And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

swing_voter said:

So after Obama won his second term, republicans came together and decided that they had to open the republican party up to blacks and Hispanics. This was called the "republican autopsy".

That was all forgotten in 2016 when Trump won. Now that Trump is facing a historical loss against Joe Biden things will change.


Once Trump loses in November, do you think republicans will seriously consider opening up the republican party to minorities and women?

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There's no guarantee that the Rethuglicans are going to lose. They are going to go all-in on their efforts to rig this election via voter suppression and intimidation. But if they do lose, especially if they lose the Senate, there is going to come a loud message from the center-right Republicans to the far-right:

"We. ****ing. Told. You. So. We told you, again and again and again, that the way to win was to stress the values of individual liberty and hard work. Not the naked racism that you have drowned in. You didn't listen, and thus, you cost us the whole election."

Consider how much better the Republicans treated Cuban-Americans after their flight from Cuba. Republicans didn't condemn them but allowed them to stay. As a result, Cuban-Americans have historically been one of the most conservative nonwhite voting blocs and a big reason why Florida isn't a solidly blue state.

But far-right Rethuglicans refuse to learn that lesson. They went all in with their Islamophobia in the 2000s and then with their racism against Mexican immigrants in the 2010s. As a result, these two groups of voters, who are growing in number, have shifted decisively to the left.

Did I mention that this nation isn't getting any whiter?

The far right will throw a massive temper tantrum when all of this happens, of course, because that's what they do when they don't get their way. But it won't matter, because not only is change coming: It's already here. And there's nothing the racists can do to stop it.

If after the 2020 elections, republicans will no longer have enough republican voters to win. They only way forward is reaching out to blacks and Hispanics.

swing_voter said:

If after the 2020 elections, republicans will no longer have enough republican voters to win. They only way forward is reaching out to blacks and Hispanics.

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And how would they do that exactly?

Mr Person said:

It is "open to minorities". The problem is that they tell those minorities that while white people are strong enough to resist the lure of safety net programs, the minorities - especially black people - are somehow inherently different and thus so susceptible to that lure that they end up trapped on a "Democratic plantation."

I can understand why that might piss them off.




And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

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We see what black females in office are doing to ruin America.

swing_voter said:

So after Obama won his second term, republicans came together and decided that they had to open the republican party up to blacks and Hispanics. This was called the "republican autopsy".

That was all forgotten in 2016 when Trump won. Now that Trump is facing a historical loss against Joe Biden things will change.


Once Trump loses in November, do you think republicans will seriously consider opening up the republican party to minorities and women?

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They will create a narrative that the party is more open to minorities. They will not actually do anything to attract more minority votes.

Paradoxical said:

We see what black females in office are doing to ruin America.

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I cannot for the life of me understand why black people don't feel at home in the Republican Party.

The hell of it is, a moderate Republican (the few there are left) are typically incredibly popular governors. Just look at Larry Hogan and Charlie Baker. If Charlie Baker ran for president, he would probably be looking at Eisenhower level approval ratings. The problem is, he would never get through the primaries because today's Republican base is motivated by cultural issues and white grievance politics.

So you have a situation where pragmatic, center to center right politics are by far the most popular politics in America, but the Republican base will not allow Republicans to run and govern based on those politics at a national level. Moreover, they push former moderate Republicans further and further to the right. If Susan Collins were the same Susan Collins of 15 years ago, she would not be looking at a probably election loss this November. If Mitt Romney was allowed to run for president in 2012 as the same moderate Mitt Romney that governed Massachusetts, he most likely would have won and had he won, he probably would have been a very popular president - but the coalition of racists and nutjobs that make up the bulk of the Republican Primary voting base nationwide, won't allow what would be very popular politics to rise to the national level anymore.

Cardinal said:

I cannot for the life of me understand why black people don't feel at home in the Republican Party.

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That's because you think Lightfoot is a good mayor and the BLACK FEMALE mayor who doesn't prosecute murderers but goes after a coupe defending their home.

They are using their office for reparations against whitey.

swing_voter said:

So after Obama won his second term, republicans came together and decided that they had to open the republican party up to blacks and Hispanics. This was called the "republican autopsy".

That was all forgotten in 2016 when Trump won. Now that Trump is facing a historical loss against Joe Biden things will change.


Once Trump loses in November, do you think republicans will seriously consider opening up the republican party to minorities and women?

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Republicans have already opened up their tent. Trump is president, isn't he?
The reason why the Democratic Party has become more and more hyper-radical is because of Trump. Trump is a traditional democrat...Traditional democrats are now considered part of the GOP. I could guess the Democratic Party would look like a communist party after African-Americans move to the GOP? Dems would be 'centrist' communists, though. :roll:

The Republican Party of California has failed perennially to reach out the very socially and fiscally conservative Latino community in California and have left the Democrats to do so. Now, if California Latinos voted for Republicans at the same rate as Latinos do in Texas, California would not be a blue nor a purple state, but likely turn redder than Texas in a heartbeat. Whether it is out of genuine understanding and common interests, or cynical politicking, any political strategy of the Republican Party that is either explicitly or de facto exclusionary of minorities, especially Latinos, is utterly inane and deservedly doomed.

swing_voter said:

So after Obama won his second term, republicans came together and decided that they had to open the republican party up to blacks and Hispanics. This was called the "republican autopsy".

That was all forgotten in 2016 when Trump won. Now that Trump is facing a historical loss against Joe Biden things will change.


Once Trump loses in November, do you think republicans will seriously consider opening up the republican party to minorities and women?

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LOL. Says the party who always buys black votes and then never does anything for blacks. Wake up man. It is blacks in liberal cities who aren't happy with the liberal cities.

Just getting rid of the Circus tent will help Republicans.

swing_voter said:

So after Obama won his second term, republicans came together and decided that they had to open the republican party up to blacks and Hispanics. This was called the "republican autopsy".

That was all forgotten in 2016 when Trump won. Now that Trump is facing a historical loss against Joe Biden things will change.


Once Trump loses in November, do you think republicans will seriously consider opening up the republican party to minorities and women?

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Can't wait to come here November 4.

The Republican tent is much wider than that of the other party in terms of ideology. Pretty much the full political spectrum. You have to be fully WOKE, pro abortion, Marxist to be a Democrat politician. Democrats are the masters of identity politics though, exploiting our differences and trashing our commonality.

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swing_voter said:

If after the 2020 elections, republicans will no longer have enough republican voters to win. They only way forward is reaching out to blacks and Hispanics.

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They can try, but I don't see what they have to offer them. After 4 years of Trumpism, it will take a generation for republicans to come back. Especially if the Biden administration actually accomplishes 1/4 of what they want to do.

The GOP will talk racial inclusiveness while passing voter suppression legislation.

That's how they operate.

We need a progressive Republican. Not only would it piss off the Democratic establishment to see not simply another progressive insurgent, but one that was able to occupy the vacuum formed by the Trump Implosion of 2020 (most likely outcome AT THE MOMENT) and galvanize the party in a progressive yet populist direction, it would also give disaffected Bernie-Tulsi voters, Greens, Libertarians and Independents a political home, adding to the conservative populist base that was going to vote Republican any way - THEN we can maybe have a REAL presidential election one day.

Purely hypothetical, of course.

Paradoxical said:

We see what black females in office are doing to ruin America.

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Who is 'WE'? I see 'YOU' don't like black females. Don't include me in your lies.

Eriech said:

Can't wait to come here November 4.

The Republican tent is much wider than that of the other party in terms of ideology. Pretty much the full political spectrum. You have to be fully WOKE, pro abortion, Marxist to be a Democrat politician. Democrats are the masters of identity politics though, exploiting our differences and trashing our commonality.

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You can blame Trump, I guess. Trump made the GOP tent bigger so the GOP's (Trump's) opposition had to become hyper-partisan.

Felis Leo said:

The Republican Party of California has failed perennially to reach out the very socially and fiscally conservative Latino community in California and have left the Democrats to do so. Now, if California Latinos voted for Republicans at the same rate as Latinos do in Texas, California would not be a blue nor a purple state, but likely turn redder than Texas in a heartbeat. Whether it is out of genuine understanding and common interests, or cynical politicking, any political strategy of the Republican Party that is either explicitly or de facto exclusionary of minorities, especially Latinos, is utterly inane and deservedly doomed.

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The problem is money. The Teachers Association and public employee unions control who gets on the ballot via financing. The print media pretty much ignores Hispanics, and the hispanic media like the rest of the media is in the pocket of the democrats.

For example: Teacher’s unions are refusing to work, yet expecting to be paid apparently until Covid goes away. There is hardly an even slightly scornful peep out of the media. What happens in cold and flu season if you set this precedent?

People have disengaged from their leadership.

Where's the hell no button?

swing_voter said:

If after the 2020 elections, republicans will no longer have enough republican voters to win. They only way forward is reaching out to blacks and Hispanics.

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Not gonna' happen. You've been on here long enough and have read numerous rants from them. Do you think they will all of a sudden change their ways just because of one defeat? Remember the last soul searching several years back? Nothing changed. They'll talk about this and that and then continue to act the way they do. That skunk no matter how hard it tries just can't remove that stripe that identifies them.

swing_voter said:

If after the 2020 elections, republicans will no longer have enough republican voters to win. They only way forward is reaching out to blacks and Hispanics.

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I think many republicans understand the demographic writing on the wall, and I am sure they do their best to encourage talented black and brown republicans to run for office, for example. But they also shoot themselves in the foot: 1- I noted some time ago that the GOP saw Hispanics as a growth area due to their presumed conservatism on some social issues. But then they let Trump say ridiculous things about immigrants, legal and illegal, trash the caravan ("there are Middle Easterners"), separate families, etc., without a whole lot of objection. 2- The Supremes eliminated parts of the Voting Rights Act that required previously discriminatory states to have changes in election laws reviewed, as they were no longer necessary. Within a short period of time, those same states instituted voter ID laws, abolished Sunday voting, limited voting places, et al. There was also the voter fraud snipe hunt. What message did that send? About one state, the courts said its redistricting disenfranchised blacks with "surgical precision." Obviously, this was premature elimination by the Court. The overall impression given, to the despair of many republicans no doubt, was that the party was to be unfriendly to America's growing populations. And lets not get started on Muslims.

Despite the cries of SOCIALISM!, the democratic party is still more conservative than its European counterparts. I met a European conservative MP who said he'd probably be considered leftist in the US. But the GOP has allowed outsized influence to its right wing. That said, I am sure the democrats can find a way to squander their apparent advantage. Yelling "defund the police" is a good start.

swing_voter said:

So after Obama won his second term, republicans came together and decided that they had to open the republican party up to blacks and Hispanics. This was called the "republican autopsy".

That was all forgotten in 2016 when Trump won. Now that Trump is facing a historical loss against Joe Biden things will change.


Once Trump loses in November, do you think republicans will seriously consider opening up the republican party to minorities and women?

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They've got the Qanan vote in the bag!