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Firearms - The Primary Problem

The primary problem with firearms

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Voidwar said:
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I apoligize.
I have him on ignore for obvious reasons.
But, you know how you sometimes can't help looking at a train wreck...?
 
Voidwar said:
What is the "problem" ? Did the weapon jam ? Was the round a dud ?

I think you need to be more specific about this alleged "problem".
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Yoy would be surprised to know how many people blame the weapon and not the man pulling the trigger..

But, in truth, weapons are too easy to obtain in too many localities by borderline men and fools...
 
I am against gun control accept for maybe automatic assault weapons, but the problem is much more complicated than whether the problem is the gun or the person. Fact is is that if we remove the guns then there are no gun
problems if you want to keep it simple.

To see gangs and other killing each other daily is sad. Seldom do we ever hear of someone protecting themself with a hand gun. Sure it happens, but in comparison with the murders, the self defense angle is very small.

The Primary problem question does not address the primary problem.

primary problem seems to death usually for little or no reason.

i like my guns, I enjoy going to the range to shoot them. I enjoy the companionship. I don't want to let them go. Yet people dying for no reason by the thousands in the USA, is a real problem.:doh:2razz:
 
Ikari said:
The true main problem with firearms is that there aren't enough, many have been forbidden to us, and more and more the government tries to encroach on our right to keep and bear arms. There should never have been an "assault rifle" ban (especially because it didn't ban a gun and people in Congress didn't know what they were voting on), fully automatic weapons should not be illegal, etc.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it an "assault weapons" ban not an assault rifle ban? Not as a point of argument but as a point of clarity...
 
rsixing said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it an "assault weapons" ban not an assault rifle ban? Not as a point of argument but as a point of clarity...
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true, the first assault rifle ban was in 1934 and then a complete ban for future manufacture was on May 19, 1986
 
earthworm said:
Yoy would be surprised to know how many people blame the weapon and not the man pulling the trigger..
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Why is there ANY blame, when I haven't even been shown any evidence that there is a PROBLEM ???
 
bhkad said:
That's why there should be a major study conducted on the effects of video games on the youngest generation to determine if there is a cause and effect on young people committing random acts of violence.

The 8 year old who killed his dad and the dad's friend seemed well adjusted to killing. Not just shooting, as his dad may have taught him, but killing.

That may have come from an over exposure to violent games. Just as not everyone who drinks is an alcoholic, not every kid who plays "Grand Theft Auto" is going to go on a shooting rampage.

But some may.

We need to KNOW THE TRUTH about the effects of video games and acts of violence in this country.
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Does this mean you support a 'moratorium' on guns so that we can best study their effect? I mean obviously not every kid who's family owns a gun ends up killing people but a few do.
 
Invayne said:
Yes, I believe it is the intent to kill that is the problem. Should we ban everything that a person can kill another person with? If that's the case, everyone will have to have their hands chopped off.

Step right up...the line forms to the left.:roll:
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My hand's primary purpose and reason for creation was not to kill people. Assault rifles firing armor-piercing bullets were created specifically for that purpose, and should be illegal.
 
BlueKC said:
My hand's primary purpose and reason for creation was not to kill people. Assault rifles firing armor-piercing bullets were created specifically for that purpose, and should be illegal.
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nah dood. killing should be illegal...... :lol:
 
bhkad said:
We need to KNOW THE TRUTH about the effects of video games and acts of violence in this country.
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Yawn. Same old crap.

Before video games, the blame was placed on movies, TV, comic books, cartoons, D&D, the Three Stooges, etc.

Guess what, the problem remains, the supposed causes come and go.

Stop looking for easy, "sound-byte" fixes.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
nah dood. killing should be illegal...... :lol:
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Then why don't I have the right to manufacture anthrax? That could certainly be defined as a weapon. I believe that it has been in plenty of military literature. Unless you think we should be able to buy smallpox at Wal-Mart too?
 
BlueKC said:
My hand's primary purpose and reason for creation was not to kill people. Assault rifles firing armor-piercing bullets were created specifically for that purpose, and should be illegal.
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I own a bunch of semi auto military styled rifles-I have shot thousands of rounds out of them-never killed anyone. Are my firearms defective? Assault rifles are banned-in 1934 on you cannot own one without the permission of your local law enforcement chief and after may 19, 1986, no more could be made for the civilian market. Did you know that the 1903 springfield and the 1898 Mauser were made for the same reason-and 90% of the hunting bolt action rifles in the USA are based on those actions?
 
BlueKC said:
Then why don't I have the right to manufacture anthrax? That could certainly be defined as a weapon. I believe that it has been in plenty of military literature. Unless you think we should be able to buy smallpox at Wal-Mart too?
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extremist logic....... oooooh fun...


why can we manufacture cars or doctors or hell buckets.... they are so much more deadly....... :lol:
 
BlueKC said:
Then why don't I have the right to manufacture anthrax? That could certainly be defined as a weapon. I believe that it has been in plenty of military literature. Unless you think we should be able to buy smallpox at Wal-Mart too?
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That is rather stupid. But you knew that.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
extremist logic....... oooooh fun...


why can we manufacture cars or doctors or hell buckets.... they are so much more deadly....... :lol:
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Yes, your logic carried to its logical extreme. Once again, since you apparently failed to read my prior post, a car is not manufactured to kill people. Certain guns and ammunition are designed exactly for that purpose. The comparison can only exist between weapons that were designed to kill human beings. And none of them should be legal.
 
BlueKC said:
Yes, your logic carried to its logical extreme. Once again, since you apparently failed to read my prior post, a car is not manufactured to kill people. Certain guns and ammunition are designed exactly for that purpose. The comparison can only exist between weapons that were designed to kill human beings. And none of them should be legal.
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When some barbarian breaks into your house with his blood engorged member to rape your daughter you will learn that some people need to be killed. :2wave:
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
When some barbarian breaks into your house with his blood engorged member to rape your daughter you will learn that some people need to be killed. :2wave:
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Would this barbarian have a gun? Or is it just peaceful, law-abiding citizens that own them?
 
BlueKC said:
Yes, your logic carried to its logical extreme. Once again, since you apparently failed to read my prior post, a car is not manufactured to kill people. Certain guns and ammunition are designed exactly for that purpose. The comparison can only exist between weapons that were designed to kill human beings. And none of them should be legal.
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Guns are designed to fire a projectile. They may be issued for anti-personnel usages. But the most popular military pistol in US history is also the most popular centerfire target pistol and the rifle that dominates centerfire target competitions is a version of the M16 rifle.

All military rifles have that intended use at some point. Every self defense handgun. I own guns like that for lots of reasons-one being if someone like you tries to impose your warped values on us.,
 
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