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Reparations?

Reparations deal?

  • Need more info

    Votes: 6 9.4%
  • Yes, it's a deal

    Votes: 2 3.1%
  • No, no deal

    Votes: 56 87.5%

  • Total voters
    64
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I think blacks should pay reparations to the families of all the men who fought to free them. Extra reparation should go to the families of those who died.

Would you have rather been a white male living in the North in 1860, or a black male living in the South under slavery in 1860? Before you answer that, think about everything that happened before that in what would have been your lifetime or afterwards in what would have been your potential lifetime.
 
This thread sure is outing the racists on here.
 
Reparations is a totally crazy idea. No former slaves nor any former slave owners are alive at this point. So how do you determine who gets a payment or who has to come up with the payment.

No one that lived under Jim Crow is still alive? No one that lived under redlining is still alive? To this day, you have black people using drugs at no higher rates than white people, yet even though they make up just 13% or so of the population, they constitute over 50% of the people in prison for drug offenses. Do you think institutional racism ended with the Civil War?
 
If an Asian man self identifies as a black person, would they get paid? Would the 100K be taxable? Put them in a new bracket?
 
Liberals praise school integration, but they send their children to schools with few or no blacks in them. There is reason for this. Black majority schools are dangerous places where little learning occurs. They are particularly dangerous for the whites and Orientals who attend.

1. Orientals is a racially offensive term. No one uses that anymore.

2. Here in the KC area, the best high school in the entire metro is Lincoln College Prep, a majority-black school.
 
If we give every black adult over 18 $100,000.

In exchange for them never bringing up slavery or institutional racism ever again?


Deal?

we've already paid that out. It's called the social safety net.
 
I would expect a lot of political pushback from liberals who don't want to live alongside black Americans, but suddenly pretend to be on their side when they need their votes

There is not a single zip code in the entire country with over 900 people per square mile that votes Republican in presidential elections. The "liberals" are about the only white people that choose to live in diverse neighborhoods.

For example, we choose to live and raise our kids in an inner ring suburb of Kansas City that is much, much more diverse than suburbs further out. It was important to us that our kids went to diverse schools and had diverse friends. You don't hear Trump voters saying that. Point being, your post is utter bull****.
 
1. Orientals is a racially offensive term. No one uses that anymore.

2. Here in the KC area, the best high school in the entire metro is Lincoln College Prep, a majority-black school.

You do know that brag on Lincoln College Prep is disingenuous? It's not your typical inner city black high school. Students have to pass a rather rigorous testing process to be accepted. Even so math proficiency is only 56%. Reading is much better at 86%. Most any school that can cherry pick their students is going to be at least acceptable; in the "B" range at least.

BTW; even though assessments differ, Lincoln College prep isn't the area's best high school. That goes to either Sumner Academy, Blue Valley North, and/or Park Hill, all "area" schools.
 
There is not a single zip code in the entire country with over 900 people per square mile that votes Republican in presidential elections. The "liberals" are about the only white people that choose to live in diverse neighborhoods.

For example, we choose to live and raise our kids in an inner ring suburb of Kansas City that is much, much more diverse than suburbs further out. It was important to us that our kids went to diverse schools and had diverse friends. You don't hear Trump voters saying that. Point being, your post is utter bull****.

why just use 900+ people per square mile? There are PLENTY of small towns across America that are very diversified racially and also conservative. Highly compacted/populated areas tend to draw people dependent on government services, and therefore mostly liberals in outlook. Cities need a lot of government compared to suburbs and small towns.
 
You do know that brag on Lincoln College Prep is disingenuous? It's not your typical inner city black high school. Students have to pass a rather rigorous testing process to be accepted. Even so math proficiency is only 56%. Reading is much better at 86%. Most any school that can cherry pick their students is going to be at least acceptable; in the "B" range at least.

BTW; even though assessments differ, Lincoln College prep isn't the area's best high school. That goes to either Sumner Academy, Blue Valley North, and/or Park Hill, all "area" schools.

Lincoln College prep ranks 294th in the country: Access Denied.

Blue Valley North is 509th in the country: Access Denied.

Park Hill is rated 954th.

Sumner Academy is a majority minority school. It's 11% white.
 
Lincoln College prep ranks 294th in the country: Access Denied.

Blue Valley North is 509th in the country: Access Denied.

Park Hill is rated 954th.

Sumner Academy is a majority minority school. It's 11% white.

told you assessments are all over the place. Your simply stating your opinion, as am I. Don't act like your opinion is a fact. We disagree.

2020 Best High Schools in the Kansas City Area - Niche

2020 Best Public High Schools in the Kansas City Area - Niche

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Give Black Americans living in lower income housing vouchers so their kids can be raised in decent neighborhoods

Get them out of Compton, Oakland, South Chicago

We can’t afford reparations, the economy will tank

Plus, other groups will then ask for reparations for other issues

How will handing people assured of spending the $100K harm the economy?

One failure of Trickle Down Fascism is that it hands money to the wrong people. I never undersood why people were so dumb as to believe a tax break creates jobs. Tax breaks lead companies to retain earnings and buy back stocks, not invest in tax deductible expenses like hiring more workers or purchasing more depreciation capital.
 
why just use 900+ people per square mile? There are PLENTY of small towns across America that are very diversified racially and also conservative. Highly compacted/populated areas tend to draw people dependent on government services, and therefore mostly liberals in outlook. Cities need a lot of government compared to suburbs and small towns.

That is utterly ludicrous. Cities are responsible for over 80% of this country's GDP. Small towns are dependent on wealth transfers from urban area taxpayers to rural areas. There are small towns that are diverse, but if you look at the voting patterns of those small towns, you will see white people voting Republican, and minorities almost always voting Democrat - with majority minority small towns almost always voting Democrat.

Let met let you in on something. Voters typically vote on cultural issues. Look at the blatant racism in some of the posts in this very thread. Those are not made by voters that are ultimately motivated to vote Republican because they are an ardent believer in supply side economics, they are made by voters that vote Republican because of white grievance. It's why the Republican voting base is more white and less educated today than ever before. People that live in more diverse areas tend to be less bigoted because they live in more diverse areas, and thus they tend to be Democrat voters because they are less bigoted.

You know just today, we filed our taxes, last minute, and we had to write out a $5k check to the IRS. That was on top of tens of thousands paid to the government already last year in withholdings. Why, because we are fortunate to be upper middle class in terms of income, and thus we pay a **** ton of money every year to the local, state and federal government in taxes. So you would think I would vote for Republicans, but I don't at the federal level (I do often vote for moderate Republicans at the state and local level). I don't vote for them because we have a Republican president right now that is an unrepentant racist. There are blatant racist Republican senators like Tom Cotton. There are people outside of Trump rallies that are flying Confederate flags. You have Republicans throwing a fit over the military trying to rename bases named after Confederate heroes.

I live in a fairly diverse area, I have a diverse group of friends, and I grew up in poverty around a diverse group of people, so I know that this is wrong. It's wrong having a president in 2020 that is an unrepentant racist. It's wrong in 2020 having a major political party that's damn near as white as a Klan rally and that runs on white grievance politics, so even though it would personally benefit me economically to vote for Republicans at the federal level, I can't because of what they do, what they tolerate, and what they try to appeal to - and one only has to look at the racist garbage in this thread to see what I mean.
 
why just use 900+ people per square mile? There are PLENTY of small towns across America that are very diversified racially and also conservative. Highly compacted/populated areas tend to draw people dependent on government services, and therefore mostly liberals in outlook. Cities need a lot of government compared to suburbs and small towns.


Were you aiming for the Most Ignorant Post of the Year award here? It seems that you hit it out of the park, if you were.

Here's something to chew on: Why do you think all the big marketing, financial and media businesses flock to Manhattan, NY and not Manhattan, KS?
 
What is the logic in people who have never owned slaves to give up their money to people who never were slaves in the name of slavery?

It simply doesn't square, except perhaps in the tortured 'liberal logic' that infests the minds of the leftist SJW, excessive PC.
 
If there is no NFL this year I will demand reparations from the protestors who created this current spike of Corona.
 
That is utterly ludicrous. Cities are responsible for over 80% of this country's GDP. Small towns are dependent on wealth transfers from urban area taxpayers to rural areas. There are small towns that are diverse, but if you look at the voting patterns of those small towns, you will see white people voting Republican, and minorities almost always voting Democrat - with majority minority small towns almost always voting Democrat.

Let met let you in on something. Voters typically vote on cultural issues. Look at the blatant racism in some of the posts in this very thread. Those are not made by voters that are ultimately motivated to vote Republican because they are an ardent believer in supply side economics, they are made by voters that vote Republican because of white grievance. It's why the Republican voting base is more white and less educated today than ever before. People that live in more diverse areas tend to be less bigoted because they live in more diverse areas, and thus they tend to be Democrat voters because they are less bigoted.

You know just today, we filed our taxes, last minute, and we had to write out a $5k check to the IRS. That was on top of tens of thousands paid to the government already last year in withholdings. Why, because we are fortunate to be upper middle class in terms of income, and thus we pay a **** ton of money every year to the local, state and federal government in taxes. So you would think I would vote for Republicans, but I don't at the federal level (I do often vote for moderate Republicans at the state and local level). I don't vote for them because we have a Republican president right now that is an unrepentant racist. There are blatant racist Republican senators like Tom Cotton. There are people outside of Trump rallies that are flying Confederate flags. You have Republicans throwing a fit over the military trying to rename bases named after Confederate heroes.

I live in a fairly diverse area, I have a diverse group of friends, and I grew up in poverty around a diverse group of people, so I know that this is wrong. It's wrong having a president in 2020 that is an unrepentant racist. It's wrong in 2020 having a major political party that's damn near as white as a Klan rally and that runs on white grievance politics, so even though it would personally benefit me economically to vote for Republicans at the federal level, I can't because of what they do, what they tolerate, and what they try to appeal to - and one only has to look at the racist garbage in this thread to see what I mean.

You need to get out more. There is a world of great people out there, and lots of them aren't Democrats. You're not superior and special because you're a liberal. And the vast majority of conservatives aren't racist. Most of the racism I see is on the liberal side; the racism of low expectation. So quit your phony arrogant liberal ranting; you don't hold the moral high ground.
 
Were you aiming for the Most Ignorant Post of the Year award here? It seems that you hit it out of the park, if you were.

Here's something to chew on: Why do you think all the big marketing, financial and media businesses flock to Manhattan, NY and not Manhattan, KS?

because that's where the idiots are?
 
You need to get out more. There is a world of great people out there, and lots of them aren't Democrats. You're not superior and special because you're a liberal. And the vast majority of conservatives aren't racist. Most of the racism I see is on the liberal side; the racism of low expectation. So quit your phony arrogant liberal ranting; you don't hold the moral high ground.

Dude, I grew up in rural Arkansas. I have been there. You claim the vast majority of conservatives are not racist, look at this thread. Look at the racist postings on this forum. I am not saying I am superior because I am a liberal. I am not even that liberal. I am saying that the rampant racism in the GOP today is what keeps me from voting for them at the national level, and if you don't see it, then all I can say is you need to do some soul searching because these days, it could not be more blatant.

Anyone that isn't a Trump voter today, holds the moral high ground. In fact, as I have said before to people on here, if you are going to vote for Trump in November, you need to put a Trump sign in your yard and a Trump sticker your vehicle because everyone that knows you, needs to know what kind of a person you are.
 
You claim the vast majority of conservatives are not racist, look at this thread. Look at the racist postings on this forum.

Open the Kanye thread, and look at the racist posts by liberals. Or even the Tucker Carlson threads.

Liberals are currently seen as having less racism in their language because they feel that nonwhites are helping them politically. The minute someone brings up Ben Carson or Ted Cruz, the racism begins. Even the minute someone suggests that local officials permit low income housing in their all-white suburbs, suddenly the political correctness disappears and is replaced by ranting about their property values going down.
 
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Open the Kanye thread, and look at the racist posts by liberals. Or even the Tucker Carlson threads.

There are racists on both ends of the political spectrum, they only express racism when the person of color, or sometimes white person, threatens them politically

Tucker Carlson is black?
 
Lol do you comprehend the fact that minorities can be racist as well?

Seriously, which P. C. University did you graduate from?

lol...no college, eh?
 
I made sure not to get my degree from one of these crazy left-wing institutions where everyone is forced to think the exact same way ;)
Good state schools are not like Liberty University. You're projecting.
 
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