Employers who publicly trash ex-employees

joko104 said:

Increasingly, to profit by being politically correct, more and more mega billion dollar corporations don't just fire employees who violate this week's political correctness wokeness, but go on to publicly trash the employee(s) worldwide by posting as fact the employee(s) is racist. They may be over something that happened on the job, something the person posted online irrelevant to the job or in the person's private life.

Here are two examples:

1. A couple of white guys at a sandwich shop make a noose out of dough, one putting it around the other's neck. They were fired. But the company then announced to the world they were fired for being racists. In fact, there was nothing racist about it. Nooses have been used for executions and suicides a thousand times more than lynching a black person.

2. A white woman calls the police after a black men threatens to give something to her off-leash that she won't like. The billionaire dollar investment firm posts online that they fired her because she's a racist.

Mega companies trying to profit by trashing employees to prove the company is PC is outrageous. I think if a law firm specialized on suing such companies for libel and slander they'd make a billion dollars do so.

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lwf said:

Slander and libel would only apply if the company lied publicly about why they fired the employee to his or her detriment. Being honest about non-private information is neither slander nor libel no matter how negatively it affects the person. Employee beware.

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joko104 said:

MULTIPLE CHOICE POLL - check as many as apply.

Increasingly, to profit by being politically correct, more and more mega billion dollar corporations don't just fire employees who violate this week's political correctness wokeness, but go on to publicly trash the employee(s) worldwide by posting as fact the employee(s) is a racist. They may be over something that happened on the job, something the person posted online irrelevant to the job or in the person's private life.

Here are two examples:

1. A couple of white guys at a sandwich shop make a noose out of dough, one putting it around the other's neck. They were fired. But the company then announced to the world they were fired for being racists. In fact, there was nothing racist about it. Nooses have been used for executions and suicides a thousand times more than lynching a black person.

2. A white woman calls the police after a black men threatens to give something to her off-leash dog that she won't like. The billionaire dollar investment firm posts online that they fired her because she's a racist.

Mega companies trying to profit by trashing employees to prove the company is PC is outrageous. I think if a law firm specialized on suing such companies for libel and slander they'd make a billion dollars doing so.

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btthegreat said:

examples 1 and 2 are very different. The noose making was on premise, in uniform and on the clock behavior. The employer was absolutely correct in terminating. What is relevant is how the employer interpreted the behavior
The episode at the park is the exact opposite.

In neither case should the employer 'advertise' the reason for the termination, but I do believe if someone calls for a reference , employers should be entirely free to be forthcoming.

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joko104 said:

That's nonsense. You are claiming your employer could post online they fired you for being a KKK grand dragon pedophile rapist and murderer - and by saying that's why the company fired you then it's ok - truth irrelevant. You are 100% wrong in law.

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lwf said:

Truth is not irrelevant. If I am those things, then it is not slander nor libel.

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joko104 said:

Mega companies trying to profit by trashing employees to prove the company is PC is outrageous. I think if a law firm specialized on suing such companies for libel and slander they'd make a billion dollars doing so.

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joko104 said:

Therefore, those two companies have to prove those employees are racists.

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joko104 said:

Anyone in a personnel department or HR knows if an employee is fired, little reason is given and then abstract: "not working out," "low performance," and other abstract reasons.

What you do NOT do is publish to the entire world "We fired John Smith because John Smith is a racist," thief, liar or other personal attacks.

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joko104 said:

MULTIPLE CHOICE POLL - check as many as apply.

Increasingly, to profit by being politically correct, more and more mega billion dollar corporations don't just fire employees who violate this week's political correctness wokeness, but go on to publicly trash the employee(s) worldwide by posting as fact the employee(s) is a racist. They may be over something that happened on the job, something the person posted online irrelevant to the job or in the person's private life.

Here are two examples:

1. A couple of white guys at a sandwich shop make a noose out of dough, one putting it around the other's neck. They were fired. But the company then announced to the world they were fired for being racists. In fact, there was nothing racist about it. Nooses have been used for executions and suicides a thousand times more than lynching a black person.

2. A white woman calls the police after a black men threatens to give something to her off-leash dog that she won't like. The billionaire dollar investment firm posts online that they fired her because she's a racist.

Mega companies trying to profit by trashing employees to prove the company is PC is outrageous. I think if a law firm specialized on suing such companies for libel and slander they'd make a billion dollars doing so.

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Waddy said:

I agree with you that in general those kinds of comments are subjective and mere opinion. A company does not have to make public why they fired someone. They do so to virtue signal. They have an alternative; say nothing. When I had to fire someone I would just refuse to give a reference or comment at all. Usually that was enough for the HR dept or manager making the inquiry to pass on the applicant. Sometimes less is more.

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lwf said:

Not if they didn't say they were racist.

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joko104 said:

Yes they did. "We fired the employee because we do not tolerate racism" is accusing the person of racism.

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joko104 said:

One employer to another privately is by code language. It is simply a matter of asking if the applicant is eligible for rehire. If the prior employer says "no," that's all need be said. Going online to attack an ex-employee? That employer better be prepared to 100% prove the attack and that the motive was not for the company's profit or malicious.

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lwf said:

Wouldn't showing racist language or action taken by the employee corroborate this?

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joko104 said:

MULTIPLE CHOICE POLL - check as many as apply.

Increasingly, to profit by being politically correct, more and more mega billion dollar corporations don't just fire employees who violate this week's political correctness wokeness, but go on to publicly trash the employee(s) worldwide by posting as fact the employee(s) is a racist. They may be over something that happened on the job, something the person posted online irrelevant to the job or in the person's private life.

Here are two examples:

1. A couple of white guys at a sandwich shop make a noose out of dough, one putting it around the other's neck. They were fired. But the company then announced to the world they were fired for being racists. In fact, there was nothing racist about it. Nooses have been used for executions and suicides a thousand times more than lynching a black person.

2. A white woman calls the police after a black men threatens to give something to her off-leash dog that she won't like. The billionaire dollar investment firm posts online that they fired her because she's a racist.

Mega companies trying to profit by trashing employees to prove the company is PC is outrageous. I think if a law firm specialized on suing such companies for libel and slander they'd make a billion dollars doing so.

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joko104 said:

MULTIPLE CHOICE POLL - check as many as apply.

Increasingly, to profit by being politically correct, more and more mega billion dollar corporations don't just fire employees who violate this week's political correctness wokeness, but go on to publicly trash the employee(s) worldwide by posting as fact the employee(s) is a racist. They may be over something that happened on the job, something the person posted online irrelevant to the job or in the person's private life.

Here are two examples:

1. A couple of white guys at a sandwich shop make a noose out of dough, one putting it around the other's neck. They were fired. But the company then announced to the world they were fired for being racists. In fact, there was nothing racist about it. Nooses have been used for executions and suicides a thousand times more than lynching a black person.

2. A white woman calls the police after a black men threatens to give something to her off-leash dog that she won't like. The billionaire dollar investment firm posts online that they fired her because she's a racist.

Mega companies trying to profit by trashing employees to prove the company is PC is outrageous. I think if a law firm specialized on suing such companies for libel and slander they'd make a billion dollars doing so.

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Moderate Right said:

You gave bad examples. Those two were racists and it is OK for their employers to distance themselves from them as much as possible. You could have provided better examples for your argument like just firing someone because they were at a rally and weren't really doing anything other than just being there.

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joko104 said:

Mega companies trying to profit by trashing employees to prove the company is PC is outrageous. I think if a law firm specialized on suing such companies for libel and slander they'd make a billion dollars doing so.

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This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

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joko104 said:

MULTIPLE CHOICE POLL - check as many as apply.

Increasingly, to profit by being politically correct, more and more mega billion dollar corporations don't just fire employees who violate this week's political correctness wokeness, but go on to publicly trash the employee(s) worldwide by posting as fact the employee(s) is a racist. They may be over something that happened on the job, something the person posted online irrelevant to the job or in the person's private life.

Here are two examples:

1. A couple of white guys at a sandwich shop make a noose out of dough, one putting it around the other's neck. They were fired. But the company then announced to the world they were fired for being racists. In fact, there was nothing racist about it. Nooses have been used for executions and suicides a thousand times more than lynching a black person.

2. A white woman calls the police after a black men threatens to give something to her off-leash dog that she won't like. The billionaire dollar investment firm posts online that they fired her because she's a racist.

Mega companies trying to profit by trashing employees to prove the company is PC is outrageous. I think if a law firm specialized on suing such companies for libel and slander they'd make a billion dollars doing so.

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SouthernDemocrat said:

The sheer irony of a Trump supporter putting up a poll about publicly trashing your ex-employees...

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This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

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