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Are you proud of being an American?

Thoughts?

  • Yes, I'm proud.

    Votes: 23 56.1%

  • No, I'm not proud.

    Votes: 2 4.9%

  • I used to be proud but not anymore.

    Votes: 6 14.6%

  • Something else

    Votes: 10 24.4%
  • Total voters
    41
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Should your amount of patriotism depend on the person in office? I'm very proud to be American and it doesn't change depending on who we elect.
 
I am both proud and ashamed of various things my country has done and continues to do. But in aggregate, the pride I have of our accomplishments far outweighs the shame I have of our embarrassments.

All societies have their beauty and their ugliness. Talking about and acting to reduce the latter doesn't need to cast a shadow on the former.
 
lwf said:
I am both proud and ashamed of various things my country has done and continues to do. But in aggregate, the pride I have of our accomplishments far outweighs the shame I have of our embarrassments.

All societies have their beauty and their ugliness. Talking about and acting to reduce the latter doesn't need to cast a shadow on the former.
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What's your opinion of people that openly express unmitigated hatred and disgust towards our nation?
 
lwf said:
I am both proud and ashamed of various things my country has done and continues to do. But in aggregate, the pride I have of our accomplishments far outweighs the shame I have of our embarrassments.

All societies have their beauty and their ugliness. Talking about and acting to reduce the latter doesn't need to cast a shadow on the former.
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I agree with thus sentiment. When I travel abroad though I often have to explain to people that not everyone agrees with all the moronic things we do
 
I'm happy to be an American.

There are maybe some other places I'd be happy to live, too; but there are plenty more that I'd not be happy living in.
 
JMaximus said:
I'm happy to be an American.

There are maybe some other places I'd be happy to live, too; but there are plenty more that I'd not be happy living in.
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So would it be accurate for you to choose the second option?
 
vegas giants said:
I often have to explain to people that not everyone agrees
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Anybody that needs that explained to them is probably too stupid to be worth the effort.
 
dex4974 said:
Should your amount of patriotism depend on the person in office? I'm very proud to be American and it doesn't change depending on who we elect.
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Obviously can't participate in the poll, but I've always been curious about being "proud" to be live in a country. It's a weird thing to be proud of, especially if you were just born into it. I'm proud of my personal accomplishments. I admire the personal accomplishments of others. Being proud of your geographical location seems a weird flex - despite the fact that it is a common sentiment. It's kinda like saying I'm proud to be human.

Is it just a different way of saying you love living in your country?
 
dex4974 said:
Anybody that needs that explained to them is probably too stupid to be worth the effort.
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Anyone who thinks we have not done moronic things all over the world is a blind partisan
 
OlNate said:
Obviously can't participate in the poll, but I've always been curious about being "proud" to be live in a country. It's a weird thing to be proud of, especially if you were just born into it. I'm proud of my personal accomplishments. I admire the personal accomplishments of others. Being proud of your geographical location seems a weird flex - despite the fact that it is a common sentiment. It's kinda like saying I'm proud to be human.

Is it just a different way of saying you love living in your country?
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Why not be proud to be human? We're pretty bad ass. It might be similar in many ways to saying you love your country.
 
lwf said:
I am both proud and ashamed of various things my country has done and continues to do. But in aggregate, the pride I have of our accomplishments far outweighs the shame I have of our embarrassments.

All societies have their beauty and their ugliness. Talking about and acting to reduce the latter doesn't need to cast a shadow on the former.
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This basically echos my feelings. I think there are many from all nations and cultures who feel the same way about their homeland, ancestry, history, etc. Everyone loves to root for their hometown, team, roots, warts and all.

And no, that doesn't change based on who temporarily holds some seat of power.

That said, I root for every nation and its peoples. Maybe not their governments, or their country's political status. But the people themselves are no different from us. Their interests and concerns are for their families, their basic welfare, their hopes, dreams, and aspirations. They love and are loved, enjoy simple comforts and conveniences, dislike change and harm, and generally look out for one another.

IOW, were all just human beings.
 
dex4974 said:
What's your opinion of people that openly express unmitigated hatred and disgust towards our nation?
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They either need to get to know us better, or take a more honest look at themselves.
 
dex4974 said:
Why not be proud to be human? We're pretty bad ass. It might be similar in many ways to saying you love your country.
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lol...I dunno, being born something isn't exactly an accomplishment, and there should be some reason for pride, no? There are plenty of other positive words - happy, relieved, etc... but pride implies something was done to be proud of.

(I get that I'm discussing semantics, I'm a nerd like that, and if you feel it's derailing your thread, I won't be offended if you decide to move on...hehe...)
 
OlNate said:
lol...I dunno, being born something isn't exactly an accomplishment, and there should be some reason for pride, no? There are plenty of other positive words - happy, relieved, etc... but pride implies something was done to be proud of.

(I get that I'm discussing semantics, I'm a nerd like that, and if you feel it's derailing your thread, I won't be offended if you decide to move on...hehe...)
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I'm proud of my son because of the person he is. Why is it weird to be proud of my nation because of what it is? It doesn't need to be my personal accomplishment for me to be proud of it. That's not a requirement for pride at all.
 
dex4974 said:
What's your opinion of people that openly express unmitigated hatred and disgust towards our nation?
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Like the guy who's publicly complained America has committed murders around the world and snorts that he prefers heroes who weren't captured?
 
I find the idea of pride in this area weird. Most of us are Americans as an accident of birth. Pride comes from achieving something....not simply having the luck to be born somewhere
 
Are you proud of being an American?
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sure, but i'm not a nationalist, and i don't support mango. we'll get past this era, i hope.
 
vegas giants said:
I agree with thus sentiment. When I travel abroad though I often have to explain to people that not everyone agrees with all the moronic things we do
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Acknowledging our ugliness is an important part of patriotism. Ignoring it is nothing more than nationalism.
 
dex4974 said:
I'm proud of my son because of the person he is. Why is it weird to be proud of my nation because of what it is? It doesn't need to be my personal accomplishment for me to be proud of it. That's not a requirement for pride at all.
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This makes no sense. You might admire our country for what it is...but pride comes from achieving
 
lwf said:
Acknowledging our ugliness is an important part of patriotism. Ignoring it is nothing more than nationalism.
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